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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back

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um I don't even know how to begin here

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today I uh have good news and bad news

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and many of you may be here looking for

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uh an interview with Luis Jimenez from

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unidentified celebrity review we had

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scheduled this uh interview for now uh

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but he did not make it now I'm not sure

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why we have messaged him a couple of

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times I hope he's okay and maybe it's

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something as simple as a time zone

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mix-up which happens a lot he's on West

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Coast time I'm on East Coast time

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hopefully that's all that it is hope

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he's okay

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so

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um uh the good news I suppose is that

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you get tomorrow's show today

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uh tomorrow I had planned on talking

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about Dr Stephen Greer

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and his latest grift

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um yeah his latest grift advertised on

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theories of everything with Kurt

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um

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people had anxiously awaited this

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interview because they thought that some

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of my questions were going to be asked

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um and I did submit questions apparently

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my questions were too accusatory uh and

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none of my questions were used but you

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know uh in my in Kurt's defense he's a

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very nice guy and he thought that my

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questions were too aggressive

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and it's his show uh he has the right to

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refuse questions or you know whatever so

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you know please there's no conspiracies

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about that do I wish that he had asked a

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few of my questions you're goddamn right

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uh so I'm gonna ask my questions myself

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I suppose to Dr Steven Greer and here's

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my first question how much money did Dr

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Stephen Greer collect

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that's my question

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how much money did Dr Steven Greer raise

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for his Orion Project charity

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and if you're unaware of what his Orion

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Project charity was it's it's a free

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energy scan that's what it is in my

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opinion based on all the available

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Dr Stephen Greer to the best of my

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recollection collected over a half a

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million dollars

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a charity That was supposed to create a

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free energy device open source it create

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Laboratories pay scientists all kinds of

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stuff he was promising when he was

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collecting money for that project Orion

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that went Belly Up

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to the best of my knowledge and Dr

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Stephen Greer delivered on exactly none

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of his promises after collecting

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again to the best of my recollection

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more than half of a million dollars for

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his free energy charity called the Orion

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one thing I've noticed about the grifter

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con Squad

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is that when something works

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and then they repeat it

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uh when David Wilcox figured out that he

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could put up a [\h__\h] course with a

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bunch of you know PowerPoint slides and

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manifesting and all this nonsense once

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would pay 333 dollars for a course he

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had a course every year these guys

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repeat the things that work for them to

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generate these huge amounts of money in

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Dr Steven Greer's case

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a half a million dollars was raised

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while he had a charity claiming uh that

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he would create a free energy device

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build a lab open source it and give it

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to the world nothing he

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gave the world nothing

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Kurt jamungal to ask Dr Stephen greed I

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mean Greer was this how much

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what did he spend the half of a million

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dollars on that his charity apparently

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there's no accounting here what what was

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the money spent on what was that half a

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million dollars where did it go because

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any of his promises where's the lab

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um receipts or spreadsheets of the

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scientists that he was paying what

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this is a very important question my

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but what we see once Dr Steven Greer

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gets on Kurt's show

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is that there's a new grift remember we

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had the first free energy scan which was

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a charity where he would bring the world

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free energy and he collected again

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I'm still unclear on how much he exactly

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collected so that's why I had my first

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it can we see spreadsheets of where all

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tax-free donations by the way it was

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now on Kurt to mogul's theories of

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I I got pissed off because he's already

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collected a half a million to build a

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free energy device and he didn't do that

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but his latest grift now is he wants a

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so that he could create a documentary

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about free energy

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why didn't he create a documentary about

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free energy with the first half a

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million dollars now he needs another

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half a million dollars to create a

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documentary about free energy and by the

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way he's using the same exact old

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talking points that he used on the first

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scan on this new grift begging for money

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for people to crowdsource crowdfund his

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film his new film right and you may

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remember that Dr Stephen Greer has

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more than a million dollars so far

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crowdfunding documentaries and for those

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unaware it does not take a huge amount

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of money to create the documentaries

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this man is creating ask anybody in that

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for example he will collect half a

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then he will not spend the half a

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million dollars in my opinion that is

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manipulative and it is it is deceitful

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and I I don't understand how he's

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allowed to do this

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now of course third phase of fake

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who have a business relationship with

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him were once on my show defending his

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right to do that saying what are you who

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it's not you if people want to give him

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money for that it's none of your

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half a million dollars and he only

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to to actually create the film he he's

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telling everybody he needs a half a

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million dollars to create a film

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love to see the accounting of him

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showing conclusive proof or evidence

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that he actually spends what he says he

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needs on these films to create them

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because I'm telling you friends ask

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anybody in the documentary film industry

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to take a look at his films and estimate

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this is ridiculous and you know what

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else is even more ridiculous is the fact

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that he's already collected a half a

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million dollars to deliver a free energy

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device you know to save the world with a

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free energy device so none of us will

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have to work to heat our homes or for

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power for electricity we'll all have

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free energy if you just give me money to

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my charity

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and then he produced nothing nothing

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friends we didn't see pictures of a lab

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or the a film of you know we didn't see

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that he bought with that half a million

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dollars we didn't see press releases

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from his organizations of scientists

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that he had hired like he promised he

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was going to hire scientists to build

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this [\h__\h] and Friends one of the reasons

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that I'm so adamant about free energy

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scams being scams is because go look go

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look at the history of free energy scams

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no one in the history of the world

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whoever collected money to produce a

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free energy device has ever done so and

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what you'll notice is that a lot of con

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artists love this scam do you know who

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else pulled the free energy scam David

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Wilcock David Wilcox claims that if you

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invest in his company

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they're going to create a hover car with

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a free energy device you won't even need

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to plug it in and you can power your

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home from that hover car he's never

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produced anything

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scam but was a space and free energy

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scam uh called first play place first I

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think it was called first place space

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agency where Billy Carson lied and said

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NASA was one of that

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Charities or companies clients that

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wasn't true and Billy Carson equally

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collected all kinds of money for that

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charity

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but never showed anybody anything he did

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with any of the money

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he has never in fact in Billy Carson's

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case his charity got revoked by the IRS

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for failing to file the paperwork if you

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have a charity every year you have to

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file paperwork that says this is how

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much money we collected and this is what

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we spent it all on

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that's all I'm asking to see from Dr

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Stephen Greer what the law requires if

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you're going to have a charity and

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collect donations from the public the

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law requires that you file these 990

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forms which say this is how much money I

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collected and this is what I did with it

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in Billy Carson's case he didn't file

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those papers for three years

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so the IRS revoked his charity license

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I'm not sure what happened in the case

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of uh Dr Stephen Greer but I suspect

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it's a similar thing because I wasn't

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able to find the 990 forms and their

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public information if somebody doesn't

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file them they're not in any of the

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databases now I could be wrong I'm going

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to double check on that and uh you have

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my word I will bring you the outcome of

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whether Dr Stephen Greer filed his

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legally required paperwork while he was

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collecting those public donations

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um I'm going to look into that and we

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will have a very clear and concise

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answer but to the best of my

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recollection that's what I believe has

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happened he did not file those papers so

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we don't know what Dr Steven Greer

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actually spent any of the money on that

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he collected while he was telling people

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uh this is the Orion Project we're going

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to create labs and hire scientists and

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we're going to create a free energy

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device and open source it and this is

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all very familiar isn't it because

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this is the talking points the same

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stuff that he talked about on Kirk

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jamungo

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uh he's using

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in this new grift and the new grift is

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oh I hope you all forgot about that half

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a million dollars that the UFO Community

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largely gave me to create a free energy

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device with my charity that I never

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disclosed would happen to all the money

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I hope you all forgot about that because

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now

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and

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powerful

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wealthy people are trying

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conspiring to keep the secrets of free

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energy away from you normal peasants but

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I Dr Stephen Greer am your hero and I'm

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going to let you know the truth about

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those free energy devices that the all

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these wealthy people and the oil

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companies and the energy companies are

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covering up and and

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killing people for it did you know that

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Dr Steven Greer made ridiculous

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outrageous unprovable claims in third

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phase of Moon's latest documentary yeah

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that Greer claimed that in a free energy

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conspiracy

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a a company that had the secrets or were

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developing the secrets to free energy in

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Michigan an entire engineering company

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got murdered

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because they were going to release the

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secrets of free energy to the world and

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an entire company

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in Michigan got murdered Dr Steven Greer

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said that and these dumb

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sorry

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these garbage peddling losers third

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phase of moon let him say that didn't

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fact check him in their documentary

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right it's a documentary I thought

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you're supposed to tell the truth in a

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documentary not if you're third phase

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Moon you just let somebody like Dr

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Stephen Greer who by the way has a

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proven history of lying over and over

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and over again you just let him sit

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there in a chair and lie

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in your documentary so that you can make

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money off of his lies do you see how

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this works

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third phase of moon could have fact

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checked that in five minutes they didn't

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do that they just let him lie in their

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documentary about an entire engineering

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firm getting murdered right so what did

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we do we checked with the state police

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the local police we checked all over we

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checked all over that state there was no

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history there was no reports there was

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no murder investigations friends if an

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entire company got murdered in a state

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any state in the United States there

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would be records of it people would be

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able to find out about it that never

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happened because Dr Stephen Greer to the

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best of my analysis right now is a

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pathological liar

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he constantly makes [\h__\h] up like this

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and when you fact check him it is look

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I'm going to tell you the truth okay I

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will tell you that honest to God truth

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fact checking Dr Stephen Greer has for a

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while for a real long time it became a

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sick hobby of mine like a documentary

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would come out Dr Stephen Greer would

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say that

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Donald Trump and vice president Pence

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requested a briefing from him and he

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briefed them about aliens and UFOs

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friends you can you can contact media

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representatives of both those men

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believe it or not even being a little

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podcaster you can still do it and get

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comment about that it never happened it

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never happened

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then the idiots like third phase of moon

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who let who let him lie right about

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things like this or the people that

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defend this lie that he briefs all these

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important people

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they say well no no he sends them a

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briefing packet he didn't brief them in

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person he just wrote you know a briefing

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packet and he sends it to them so here's

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what I'm going to do friends going

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forward I'm gonna have a briefing packet

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I'm trying to find the briefing packet I

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had a briefing packet here oh yeah I

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have it I have it

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I have a very special alien briefing

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packet

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and I'm going to send this to President

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Biden tomorrow

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and then you know because you can get

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the White House address anybody could

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send [\h__\h] to the White House and then

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I'm gonna wait like three days and then

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I'm gonna tell everyone that I briefed

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Vice President Biden about aliens and

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UFOs

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do you see the problem with this guy

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and by the way he has backpedaled and

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all but admitted yeah oh uh I sent them

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the briefings

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Great And for those unaware uh in the

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cases that there was another case where

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he claimed that he briefed CIA director

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Woolsey former CIA director about aliens

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and UFOs in his book in one of his books

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and in public he made all these claims

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that he briefed a former CIA director

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the person themselves the CIA director

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came out and said that never happened I

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sat near him at a social function uh we

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didn't talk about alien he didn't brief

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me no that never happened

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so Dr Stephen Greer goes to some kind of

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probably one of those political dinners

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that's 10 grand a plate or something

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because he has expensive tastes that all

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the stupid people sending him money are

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paying for but anyway he goes to a

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social event this guy that used to be

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the director of the CIA happens to be

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there

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he leaves the event starts running

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around telling everybody that he briefed

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to sit the former CIA director about

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UFOs and aliens and again in the case of

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President Trump that never happened in

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the case of Vice President Pence that

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never happened and in many more cases

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where he claims he briefed people if you

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get to the actual people and ask them

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they don't even know who the hell this

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guy is he's like some escaped mental

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patient running around pretending to be

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an expert on UFOs and aliens and that

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somehow this [\h__\h] is working for him and

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he's making millions of dollars God

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bless him but it's wrong it's so wrong

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for him to do this

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so again friends

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I am going to

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to the White House tomorrow and then by

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Dr Stephen Greer's logic I'll be able to

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just tell everybody look man my UFO

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speaking fee just

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quadrupled because I'm going to be able

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to say that I briefed President Biden

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about UFOs and aliens these people with

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their Intel and their briefings and

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their this is all [\h__\h] Stephen Greer

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is not briefing anybody he's writing

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stupid papers uh and lying about you

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know being important I'm important I'm

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briefing the president and the vice

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president no you dumbass you just sent

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some junk mail to the White House that

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doesn't give you the right to say that

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you briefed them and it certainly

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doesn't give him the right to claim that

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they requested a briefing show us show

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us Dr Stephen Greer you liar you

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pathological liar

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or hey how about their his underling

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Defenders

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by the way there truly is a pyramid to

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this UFO scam to all of it

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it's all pyramid scam

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Dr Steven Greer is one of the people at

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the top of the pyramid below him you

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have other bottom feeding liar deceivers

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like third phase of moon and third phase

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of moon constantly defends to even Greer

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and all these lies because Dr Steven

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Greer and and them make money together

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with his lies is third phase of moon

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going to provide a letter or proof that

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had a request from president Trump or

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vice president Pence to get a briefing

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is third phase of moon

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the lies

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that Dr Stephen Greer told

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in the documentary film that they

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produced

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is third phase of moon going to show us

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proof that an entire company in Michigan

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got murdered just like Dr Stephen Greer

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said and they're supposedly true story

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documentary

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these aren't true stories this is

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delusional Fantasyland for stupid people

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that's what this is

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now on to Kurt jamungle

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uh so what's happening here now is that

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Dr Stephen Greer has already collected a

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half a million dollars for a free energy

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charity scam in my opinion

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he's never produced a paperwork showing

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how much money he collected for that

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free energy charity or what he did with

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all the money

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but now he's given the big pitch on Kirk

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jamungle show

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and he needs you to

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send him money again

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because

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he's going to produce a free energy

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movie now

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and in that free energy movie

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he's gonna

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tell you all about free energy right

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let's see if I can find uh the link to

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his if anybody has it I apologize I'm a

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bit unprepared today

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um we'll get you the link but there is a

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link to his new crowdfunded

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film that he's going to produce and

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let's not forget that he did produce he

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did

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collect a half a million dollars to

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produce his last film right

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great great

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and uh someone was just in our Discord

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chat I think it was Leah who was saying

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is there really even any money in this

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yeah

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apparently you could collect a half a

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million dollars to create a free energy

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device and then never produce anything

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never produce proof for what you did

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with any of the money

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and then you can collect a half a

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million dollars again

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apparently if this works out for him

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to make a film about free energy

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you see it's very clear that

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it's all about money here

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right if you truly cared about free

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energy why didn't he do something with

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the first half a million dollars oh

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he spent that I guess he needs another

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half a million dollars from you stupid

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UFO people so that he can make a another

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documentary film that doesn't cost a

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half a million dollars to make

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um now there were some interesting

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things in the actual interview

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and one of them was that Kurt did press

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him on actual physics questions at which

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time

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Stephen Greer threw out a whole bunch of

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word salad not scientific nonsense

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to a man who is perhaps uh one of the

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most gifted physics people on planet

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Earth

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to the best of my knowledge Kurt's

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amazing with physics he is amazing from

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what I've seen uh anyway

560
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:35,640
uh Dr Stephen Greer does a terrible

561
00:27:39,950 --> 00:27:37,740
Bluff terrible Bluff you can't start

562
00:27:42,649 --> 00:27:39,960
talking about Quantum vacuum this and

563
00:27:45,769 --> 00:27:42,659
all this nonsense to a real physicist Dr

564
00:27:48,649 --> 00:27:45,779
Steven Greer so Stephen Greer looks

565
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:48,659
stupid and foolish here

566
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:51,779
another thing is that Kurt asked him for

567
00:27:57,049 --> 00:27:54,960
some evidence of his claims and Dr

568
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:57,059
Steven Greer got all pissed off and said

569
00:28:00,370 --> 00:27:59,279
it's all in the book right or it's all

570
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:00,380
something

571
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,360
uh and come on what are you gonna do uh

572
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:08,880
it's it's like don't worry about

573
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:11,100
evidence you don't need evidence

574
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,620
you know you don't need any evidence or

575
00:28:18,169 --> 00:28:15,840
buy my book if you want me to show you

576
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:18,179
the evidence you gotta buy my book so

577
00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:20,340
people ask me to talk about what I

578
00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,140
really think I think that Dr Steven

579
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:25,440
Greer's latest uh this is a new gift

580
00:28:29,930 --> 00:28:27,480
give me another half a million dollars

581
00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:29,940
so I've told you what I think and now I

582
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:32,820
have a surprise for you

583
00:28:38,330 --> 00:28:35,700
man now we're gonna have to change the

584
00:28:40,130 --> 00:28:38,340
thumbnail again but it's okay uh you

585
00:28:44,029 --> 00:28:40,140
know what we'll do we will cut out the

586
00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:44,039
first portion of this show and uh

587
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,260
tonight we were supposed to have a

588
00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:49,200
conversation with Luis Jimenez and uh I

589
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:50,760
think we got our wires crossed on the

590
00:28:57,049 --> 00:28:53,820
time zones but he's here now so isn't

591
00:29:00,049 --> 00:28:57,059
that great uh amazing actually

592
00:29:02,930 --> 00:29:00,059
and uh maybe I saved myself a show for

593
00:29:04,669 --> 00:29:02,940
tomorrow already right so we can take

594
00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:04,679
the night off for once here

595
00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:07,020
so uh

596
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:09,299
I don't know where to begin with Luis

597
00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:12,240
Jimenez and uh host of unidentified

598
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:14,820
celebrity review except for those who

599
00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:16,980
aren't the very few that are won't be

600
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:19,799
unaware of who he is or his history uh

601
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:22,020
he started a show called unidentified

602
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:23,820
celebrity review he did a lot of

603
00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:27,120
Grassroots activism uh the big phone

604
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:30,659
home and other uh things to try to get

605
00:29:37,730 --> 00:29:33,440
the truth about UFOs and along the way

606
00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:37,740
he met uh Luis Elizondo who claimed to

607
00:29:43,389 --> 00:29:40,919
be a former Pentagon uh UFO program

608
00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:43,399
manager and all these things

609
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:47,340
and I think somewhere along the way uh

610
00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:48,960
Luis Jimenez

611
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:52,200
woke up to some of the truth behind some

612
00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:54,559
of these characters in conspiracy land

613
00:29:59,870 --> 00:29:57,480
since then uh he has become a much more

614
00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:59,880
critical voice than he used to be and I

615
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,380
say good for him

616
00:30:05,870 --> 00:30:03,600
uh we've got an awful lot to talk about

617
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:05,880
and I don't know where we'll begin but

618
00:30:11,389 --> 00:30:07,380
we'll move in here

619
00:30:13,850 --> 00:30:11,399
hey what's happening man sorry I am so

620
00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:13,860
sorry I got I got lost in the day I'm

621
00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:17,460
not used to doing shows anymore oh yeah

622
00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:20,220
yeah maybe I thought maybe the time zone

623
00:30:24,169 --> 00:30:22,200
so no no no you got the time zone

624
00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,179
totally right now I'm just glad that I

625
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:26,159
just haven't you're okay no sorry sorry

626
00:30:31,070 --> 00:30:28,140
sorry yeah no I had to Michelle's got

627
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:31,080
the flu and I've I had to take her to um

628
00:30:36,190 --> 00:30:33,240
urgent care and then I had a meeting and

629
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,200
then started working on a project

630
00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:38,960
much more important than this nonsense

631
00:30:43,789 --> 00:30:41,159
everyone's good everything's fine we

632
00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:43,799
just had to get her some uh some

633
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:46,380
medication for this nasty flu she's got

634
00:30:51,169 --> 00:30:49,020
so I'm just getting over it now but it

635
00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:51,179
didn't hit me as hard as it hit her she

636
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:54,360
just got asthma so for whatever reason

637
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:55,279
um

638
00:31:03,970 --> 00:30:58,320
she just got super sick I'm gonna put

639
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:07,250
no but I I dude I opened up Twitter and

640
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,640
I was like oh

641
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:10,559
[\h__\h]

642
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,559
um no it's okay I I ran into the time

643
00:31:17,149 --> 00:31:15,360
zone thing myself and I felt horrible

644
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:17,159
because the person told me like nine

645
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,620
o'clock they didn't say Pacific time so

646
00:31:23,289 --> 00:31:22,080
I was there at nine o'clock my time you

647
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:23,299
know

648
00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:25,980
no worries man well I'm glad it worked

649
00:31:29,529 --> 00:31:28,380
out I'm again apologies for uh for being

650
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:29,539
late

651
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:33,120
sorry no it's no big deal I'm just glad

652
00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:34,320
you're here everybody really wanted to

653
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,140
see it so I was kind of like and so was

654
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:39,120
ever everybody yeah no God that would

655
00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:41,039
have been God I'm just I'm just so happy

656
00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:42,600
I checked Twitter because if I had found

657
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:45,000
out like I was really deep into I was

658
00:31:48,889 --> 00:31:46,799
doing some photoshop stuff as well I was

659
00:31:51,289 --> 00:31:48,899
just like got lost in it and I was like

660
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:51,299
thank God I checked Twitter

661
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:53,340
um and then I saw a message from Grandma

662
00:31:56,889 --> 00:31:55,140
he's like aren't you on camping I'm like

663
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:56,899
oh my God

664
00:32:00,830 --> 00:31:59,100
now like I said I'm just glad you're

665
00:32:03,169 --> 00:32:00,840
here I didn't want to I I didn't want to

666
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,179
disappoint everybody but no I'm glad

667
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:05,279
nobody's disappointed please everybody

668
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:07,260
in the chat go tell everybody that I'm

669
00:32:18,130 --> 00:32:15,350
God damn it spooky she keeps sending me

670
00:32:20,090 --> 00:32:18,140
more than two men

671
00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:20,100
oh man

672
00:32:24,409 --> 00:32:22,500
um did you tweet it out let me see oh

673
00:32:29,630 --> 00:32:24,419
I'm gonna turn it out right now live

674
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,090
and I will just take what I the the

675
00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:34,799
coverage of this uh Steven Greer thing

676
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:37,020
is a bonus for tonight that's kind of

677
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,580
awkward though what were you two you

678
00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:39,600
were you were talking about Stephen

679
00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:42,059
Greer what about that that Maniac yeah

680
00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:44,220
well this is the best thing I want to

681
00:32:47,810 --> 00:32:45,720
ask you what you think of this were you

682
00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:47,820
aware were you aware that on

683
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:50,940
kirchimuncle he did this huge pitch for

684
00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:53,340
his new film he wants everybody and it's

685
00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:55,559
it's crowdfunded he wants everybody to

686
00:32:59,570 --> 00:32:57,659
give him a half a million dollars to

687
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:59,580
make a documentary film about free

688
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,659
energy

689
00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:03,360
yeah yeah

690
00:33:07,010 --> 00:33:05,520
um but it gets worse I don't know what

691
00:33:09,289 --> 00:33:07,020
else you're aware of well what's much

692
00:33:12,529 --> 00:33:09,299
what's what's hilarious did you do you

693
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:12,539
know if they crowd sourced the last film

694
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:14,700
The yes they did and he got half a

695
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,140
million dollars for that

696
00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:18,240
but are you for the ones that Blake

697
00:33:23,330 --> 00:33:20,820
cousin the cousins oh no no the cousins

698
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,340
brothers that was not funded by crowds

699
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,440
okay okay because I was gonna say that's

700
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,320
an invasion was funded by a half a

701
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,240
million dollars and another thing that I

702
00:33:34,909 --> 00:33:32,640
think was a scam he it's an emergency

703
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,919
the government's about to fool us all

704
00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:36,960
with a fake Alien Invasion and I need a

705
00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:38,340
half a million dollars to make a

706
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:40,980
documentary to tell everybody about it I

707
00:33:44,810 --> 00:33:42,600
know for sure because the cousins

708
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:44,820
documentary was I should have just been

709
00:33:47,630 --> 00:33:45,720
called

710
00:33:48,409 --> 00:33:47,640
um I can't remember what I said it

711
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,419
should have been called but something

712
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:50,159
along the lines of the stock footage

713
00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:52,380
documentary because that's all it had in

714
00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:54,360
the entire film and I'm like this is not

715
00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:56,340
it's not a half a million dollar film

716
00:34:00,289 --> 00:33:58,200
and even the film before Oh No but but

717
00:34:02,029 --> 00:34:00,299
in that case the finances are a separate

718
00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:02,039
thing we can't really say anything about

719
00:34:07,329 --> 00:34:04,440
Thursday's Finance but even well let's

720
00:34:10,490 --> 00:34:07,339
just say well Steve the uh the the

721
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:10,500
energy Louise you gotta hear this so

722
00:34:17,329 --> 00:34:14,520
yeah listen years and years ago and he

723
00:34:20,930 --> 00:34:17,339
ran a free energy charity called the

724
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:20,940
Orion Project Dr Stephen Greer did and

725
00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:23,040
he collected a half a million dollars or

726
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:25,139
more for the charity and never produced

727
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,320
anything now his latest thing is he

728
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,720
wants a half a million dollars to make a

729
00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:33,359
documentary about free energy that's

730
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:35,700
what I was talking about uh in the intro

731
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,760
in your absence I just think like he

732
00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:40,800
thinks everybody forgot about the half a

733
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:42,780
million he got given the producer free

734
00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:45,300
energy device and saved the world with

735
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,580
yeah I don't remember I I that one I

736
00:34:51,889 --> 00:34:49,919
don't remember but I if if but I think

737
00:34:54,649 --> 00:34:51,899
unacknowledge his film on acknowledged

738
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,659
was crowdsourced as well right yeah so

739
00:34:58,310 --> 00:34:56,399
they either he either got a half a

740
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,320
million or a million for each of the

741
00:35:03,010 --> 00:35:00,960
crowdsourced yeah that's not a million

742
00:35:06,349 --> 00:35:03,020
dollar production

743
00:35:08,329 --> 00:35:06,359
as a filmmaker you can look at your

744
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:08,339
filmmaker did you look at the quality of

745
00:35:11,690 --> 00:35:09,960
those things do those documentaries

746
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:11,700
close to half a million dollars to make

747
00:35:16,609 --> 00:35:14,400
nowhere near dollars so what does he do

748
00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:16,619
with all the money and the Defenders say

749
00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:18,780
who cares who cares if people want to

750
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:21,180
give him money but he says I need half a

751
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,400
million dollars to make this documentary

752
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:25,440
and then he makes a documentary that

753
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:29,040
looks like 20K you know to me yeah no it

754
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:31,920
does no it does look like 20K because it

755
00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:35,640
is it's a you know it's it yeah it's the

756
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:37,980
pre whatever I'm curious is to see

757
00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:40,320
actual budgets for the film

758
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,260
um I mean nobody will return my email of

759
00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:45,599
course not yeah of course not

760
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:48,780
um yeah you'll never get it but I for

761
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:51,359
sure 100 that's not a half a million or

762
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:53,099
a million dollar film and then the part

763
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:55,980
that really chaps my ass is that he

764
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:57,599
turns around and sells it to a studio

765
00:36:07,609 --> 00:36:04,670
he put ads in it for his books and [\h__\h]

766
00:36:09,470 --> 00:36:07,619
and put ads in it for his ce5 app so he

767
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:09,480
can make more money off the back end of

768
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:11,940
it then you're right he makes money off

769
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,280
the Netflix streaming or whatever you

770
00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:16,560
know Hulu Netflix wherever it is the

771
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:18,300
streaming services are paying him per

772
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:20,520
stream of that

773
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:23,280
after he already got paid

774
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:25,260
we're in the wrong business we got to do

775
00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:27,180
it that way we'll follow his mom yeah no

776
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:29,820
I I think a lot of folks in this

777
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,880
community just love being ripped off

778
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,040
um and I you know that's kind of where I

779
00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:37,920
was like you know I came to a Crossroads

780
00:36:44,030 --> 00:36:40,700
and it was like well I can either dig in

781
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:44,040
and keep sell like I wasn't selling the

782
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:46,200
wound the first place I never used my

783
00:36:51,290 --> 00:36:48,420
show or my experience he was selling

784
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:51,300
well a little bit no no no here's what

785
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,220
you did we would talk about the room

786
00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:55,920
let's be friends whatever you did you

787
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,680
sat back and you let other people sell

788
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:00,720
it on your show for sure sometimes

789
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,900
though a little a little bit like who

790
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:06,000
I don't know some of those guests man

791
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,520
are like well I mean look it's you know

792
00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:14,450
I mean look I I if we're gonna call each

793
00:37:18,349 --> 00:37:16,079
other out you know when you had Anjali

794
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:18,359
on the show I was like all right here we

795
00:37:23,210 --> 00:37:21,119
go like this guy's gonna tear her apart

796
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:23,220
in the first hour you were really nice

797
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:26,640
and let her just sort of you know verbal

798
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:31,079
diarrhea her story and and the the thing

799
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,280
with

800
00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,560
having a show and you know you're doing

801
00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:36,540
a show five days a week and there's a

802
00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:37,740
whole bunch of people you want to talk

803
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:40,140
there was a part there was a time in my

804
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:42,780
show where I was like man we really we

805
00:37:46,910 --> 00:37:44,940
really have to try and dive into this

806
00:37:49,609 --> 00:37:46,920
experience part of this discussion

807
00:37:51,710 --> 00:37:49,619
absolutely and but the problem with that

808
00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:51,720
part of the discussion is that it's CR

809
00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:55,140
it's crazy it's very difficult to wrap

810
00:37:58,970 --> 00:37:57,000
your brain around most times of people

811
00:38:00,589 --> 00:37:58,980
telling the stories are having a hard

812
00:38:04,250 --> 00:38:00,599
time dealing with it emotionally

813
00:38:06,589 --> 00:38:04,260
mentally all sorts of so to expect the

814
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:06,599
audience to just be like yep okay that

815
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:09,780
sounds credible to me and then you know

816
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,180
the the issue is also like when people

817
00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:13,920
start telling their stories I think a

818
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:16,020
lot of the times there's trauma attached

819
00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:18,540
to the story absolutely so you don't

820
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:19,980
want to be nasty about it you don't want

821
00:38:23,089 --> 00:38:21,420
to be nasty you don't want to call him a

822
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:23,099
liar you want to give them the room to

823
00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:25,140
breathe and the space to tell their

824
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:28,680
truth or their story and so I think for

825
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:31,740
about four or five months we I'm

826
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,320
genuinely only was putting an effort

827
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,040
forward into trying to understand

828
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,079
and treat that side of the conversation

829
00:38:44,690 --> 00:38:42,720
with kid gloves I did the same thing I

830
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:44,700
didn't used to experiencers but once I

831
00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:46,320
started to talk to experiencers I

832
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:48,420
realized that you have to kind of you

833
00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,800
have to kind of just take a step back

834
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:51,839
and let them know you have to you have

835
00:38:57,970 --> 00:38:55,020
to but but but then you know after four

836
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:57,980
or five months of doing it and you know

837
00:39:02,990 --> 00:39:00,960
we had Melinda Leslie on a few times and

838
00:39:06,849 --> 00:39:03,000
it was just like I can't I like I just

839
00:39:14,089 --> 00:39:10,790
like as a person I love Melinda like

840
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:14,099
she's really fun to talk to but it's

841
00:39:18,589 --> 00:39:16,800
just like she's not listening to herself

842
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,599
it's like when she starts talking about

843
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:20,880
my labs I'm like okay you're talking

844
00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:23,400
about a 60-year program kidnapping up to

845
00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:25,500
you know when we did the math it was

846
00:39:30,589 --> 00:39:28,680
like 35 people a day for the last 60

847
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:30,599
years they've been kidnapping and doing

848
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:33,180
this my labs thing like a massive

849
00:39:39,470 --> 00:39:36,320
practice that's that's we're talking

850
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:39,480
in the possibly trillions of dollars

851
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:41,880
like how do you hide the money how do

852
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,560
you hide the victims of it how do you

853
00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:45,200
hide the people

854
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:47,940
fast when their mind is made up though

855
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,800
yeah so so once you know we had we hit a

856
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,480
wall with it and as a show we're like

857
00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:56,160
okay we're not doing this anymore like

858
00:39:59,870 --> 00:39:58,200
this is just ridiculous you know what

859
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,880
I'm sad about here's what I'm sad about

860
00:40:03,650 --> 00:40:01,920
though because you did that you you

861
00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:03,660
reached this realization where like I

862
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:06,060
just can't keep doing this right and uh

863
00:40:10,250 --> 00:40:08,880
Josh and Artemis recently they read so

864
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,260
they're they're like we're done with

865
00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:13,680
UFOs uh we're we can't

866
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:15,660
and and and actually I give a lot of

867
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:17,820
credit to both of you because you both

868
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,380
said I just can't do this anymore

869
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:21,839
because I don't believe any of this or

870
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:25,200
or whatever you know so me I'm always

871
00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:27,599
bouncing back and forth and going I I

872
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:29,880
gotta do other topics and then you know

873
00:40:35,569 --> 00:40:31,980
something else will grab my attention

874
00:40:38,290 --> 00:40:35,579
and okay it's stuck in this Cesspool you

875
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:38,300
[\h__\h] got out that shit's not fair

876
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:43,200
I mean it's it it was it was really look

877
00:40:47,569 --> 00:40:44,820
there's a couple reasons it was very

878
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:47,579
difficult for me to just quit the show I

879
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,020
didn't want to quit the show I really

880
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:51,599
enjoyed doing the show

881
00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:54,780
um and and also like my experience as a

882
00:40:58,849 --> 00:40:57,180
13 year old kid at a birthday party with

883
00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:58,859
a whole bunch of people who all saw the

884
00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:00,420
same thing

885
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,220
um you know and everybody was just at

886
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:04,800
least my memory of it you know was like

887
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:06,780
oh my gosh this everybody was confused

888
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,820
this was this was a really interesting

889
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:11,760
event and then you know the whole thing

890
00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:25,609
yeah no I saw the question I mean

891
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,480
I'm here as long as you need me but I

892
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:29,040
mean I guess you know just to finish

893
00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:31,020
that thought is just like sorry sorry

894
00:41:35,930 --> 00:41:33,960
you know it was difficult to let that go

895
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:35,940
and not only that I was you know it's

896
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,760
not like I was making a living but an

897
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:41,040
extra 24 Grand a year

898
00:41:46,450 --> 00:41:44,880
you know on top of the my acting and my

899
00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:46,460
waiting words

900
00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:49,140
from this show but maybe you know like

901
00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:52,140
it it took a lot of work to build up to

902
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:54,119
that it really did I mean I know a lot

903
00:41:58,250 --> 00:41:55,560
of people are like well you had Lou on

904
00:42:00,589 --> 00:41:58,260
your show yes so what Lou's been on 300

905
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,599
other shows and all those other shows

906
00:42:06,010 --> 00:42:02,400
suck and they're not doing well the

907
00:42:11,450 --> 00:42:08,930
how many times was he on your show seven

908
00:42:13,069 --> 00:42:11,460
times that he's been on he hasn't been

909
00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:13,079
on anybody else's show that many that's

910
00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:15,300
why you get the [\h__\h] but his perception

911
00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:17,220
was that he was pumping all your numbers

912
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:20,700
and yeah no I don't think so I don't

913
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:23,400
think so you know I I I it didn't hurt

914
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:26,400
that's for sure every time he was on we

915
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,440
always got a bump you know

916
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,200
um but a big guests will do that you

917
00:42:36,829 --> 00:42:33,119
know yeah and actually we'll do that I

918
00:42:39,710 --> 00:42:36,839
have no I have no uh way to like

919
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,720
even put that in my own terms because I

920
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,520
haven't had a big name but we barely had

921
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:43,560
any big name guests let alone one seven

922
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:46,079
times so yeah you know well you know it

923
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,160
was I would but would I do it yeah [\h__\h]

924
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:53,520
yeah probably you know but uh so I don't

925
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:55,560
I don't blame you for that I used to I

926
00:42:59,390 --> 00:42:57,060
used to say the same thing I used to

927
00:43:02,809 --> 00:42:59,400
hear those things and say oh yeah you

928
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:02,819
know uh but then I look at the CIA psyop

929
00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:04,980
side of things and go like maybe it was

930
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,780
intentional that Lou did that to pump

931
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:09,119
you up for a reason and and he was be

932
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,480
manipulated to sell the narrative or

933
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:15,119
something you know I mean I wouldn't put

934
00:43:18,410 --> 00:43:17,460
it out of the realm you know

935
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,420
um

936
00:43:24,349 --> 00:43:21,599
you know there's a there's

937
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:24,359
yeah it's it's so confusing when it

938
00:43:28,490 --> 00:43:25,800
comes to him

939
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:28,500
um but I think you know the the thing

940
00:43:33,410 --> 00:43:30,240
with me is

941
00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:33,420
when it comes to Lou we we

942
00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:35,579
our last interview before the last

943
00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:37,800
interview so we we interviewed him this

944
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:40,020
year and then we the the interview the

945
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:41,400
last interview before that was the big

946
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,740
phone home two which was last November

947
00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:46,079
well so almost a year ago so there was a

948
00:43:50,089 --> 00:43:48,599
period of almost like six to seven

949
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,099
months where we didn't have them on the

950
00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:52,800
show and I I wasn't

951
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:54,780
looking for him to be on the show

952
00:44:01,309 --> 00:43:58,200
because we had had so many red flags and

953
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,319
so many questions up until that point

954
00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:03,839
um where I was like you know we had the

955
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:06,780
the question that rather asked um about

956
00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:09,900
his sock puppet accounts that question

957
00:44:16,130 --> 00:44:12,900
we can't I put that question on the

958
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:16,140
table a year ago in a meeting and

959
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,000
um we'd heard it from a whole bunch of

960
00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:19,920
people that that was his sock puppet

961
00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:22,859
account and then we had a discussion

962
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:24,599
um yeah like are we gonna ask her about

963
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:26,940
this before right before the big phone

964
00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:28,980
home too me Mike and rather had a

965
00:44:35,050 --> 00:44:31,380
discussion about okay do we ask in this

966
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:35,060
question because there's there's only

967
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:38,940
one good way to answer that question any

968
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:42,960
other answer other than nope not mine

969
00:44:48,109 --> 00:44:45,780
um is a terrible answer like if it's yes

970
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,119
terrible answer if it's

971
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:50,640
um if it's a non-answer that's a

972
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:52,740
terrible answer you know

973
00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:55,160
um there's no good way

974
00:45:00,349 --> 00:44:57,900
uh to

975
00:45:02,089 --> 00:45:00,359
to sort of answer well do you have sock

976
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,099
puppet accounts that manipulate and

977
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,800
trash other people uh in another you

978
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,960
know like that express your true

979
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:08,160
feelings

980
00:45:14,089 --> 00:45:10,640
um yeah you know like ask the question

981
00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:14,099
and to be fair you guys asked it in a

982
00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:17,339
nice way and then he replied he called

983
00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:19,980
your co-hosts he said what if you're he

984
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:22,020
said this about your coach he said what

985
00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:24,480
if somebody said your mom was a [\h__\h] or

986
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,700
a proper hooker a hooker yeah yeah a

987
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:28,800
hooker like he used an analogy like what

988
00:45:32,809 --> 00:45:30,900
if I called your mom a hooker well if I

989
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:32,819
was you it really like it wouldn't

990
00:45:36,109 --> 00:45:34,440
matter to me you know I guess it depends

991
00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:36,119
on like rather said it depends on who

992
00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:38,520
says it right like if it's Sean Cahill

993
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:41,220
saying it then you know or or like let's

994
00:45:42,829 --> 00:45:42,240
say

995
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:42,839
um

996
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:45,660
you know just using that analogy like if

997
00:45:53,089 --> 00:45:50,040
if if Lou Elizondo calls uh rather's mom

998
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,099
a hooker I think rather can go okay why

999
00:45:57,770 --> 00:45:54,960
are you doing that you even know my mom

1000
00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:57,780
like he could respond but whereas but if

1001
00:46:02,809 --> 00:46:00,180
somebody some Rando Twitter who's got

1002
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:02,819
Twitter guy who's got you know two two

1003
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,380
followers and

1004
00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:06,720
has no presence on Twitter whatsoever

1005
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:09,480
calls you know rather's Mom a hooker

1006
00:46:14,450 --> 00:46:12,240
like it would be ignored I had I had

1007
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,460
this exact thing happen to me you know

1008
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,079
whether it matters or not my mother's

1009
00:46:19,849 --> 00:46:18,000
been dead for a long time but one of

1010
00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:19,859
those nameless faceless Twitter sock

1011
00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:22,920
accounts on Twitter uh tweeted that my

1012
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:25,980
mother was getting gang banged by uh you

1013
00:46:31,609 --> 00:46:29,520
know Kenzo gangbangers or something you

1014
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:31,619
know like what am I gonna do with that I

1015
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,300
just ignore it I'm like okay you know

1016
00:46:38,809 --> 00:46:36,000
yeah you know like like and so it's and

1017
00:46:41,809 --> 00:46:38,819
somebody here in the in the chat said

1018
00:46:44,750 --> 00:46:41,819
um what'd they say here uh

1019
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:44,760
you know like we shouldn't be afraid to

1020
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:47,940
ask questions and it was like it's yeah

1021
00:46:52,370 --> 00:46:49,800
I shouldn't be worried about having a

1022
00:46:54,530 --> 00:46:52,380
good him having a good answer and it was

1023
00:46:56,750 --> 00:46:54,540
like we were worried about it because at

1024
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,760
the time like but you don't want to

1025
00:47:01,790 --> 00:46:58,800
damage that relationship I don't want to

1026
00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:01,800
damage the relationship obviously yeah I

1027
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:03,180
don't want to damage the relationship

1028
00:47:08,450 --> 00:47:06,240
because the way we met like I've met Lou

1029
00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:08,460
Elizondo so that's a huge difference too

1030
00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:12,119
between me and a lot of other people

1031
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,940
um like Louis zando came into my

1032
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:16,079
restaurant

1033
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,760
and

1034
00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:19,680
I don't get Star Struck but when I saw

1035
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,560
him I was like I was losing my [\h__\h]

1036
00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:24,720
um and I and I told the waiter whose

1037
00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:26,280
table was I'm like I'm taking this table

1038
00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:28,980
I just I have to and so then when I sat

1039
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,540
there started talking to him his name's

1040
00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:32,640
Luis my name's Louise he's Cuban I'm

1041
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:35,640
Cuban I'm from Miami he's from Miami so

1042
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:37,980
we've really connected really quickly on

1043
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:39,960
those three things he was super nice he

1044
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,300
was there with other people yeah it just

1045
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:44,880
so happened to have a UFO show too right

1046
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:47,760
no I don't know I didn't have a Channel

1047
00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:50,460
at all I didn't start my channel until

1048
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:52,859
four months after I had met him I hadn't

1049
00:47:58,490 --> 00:47:56,220
I had I was toying around with the idea

1050
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,500
of doing a YouTube show I really wanted

1051
00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:00,180
to start one

1052
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,460
um and then covet happened and right

1053
00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:04,440
before covet happened Lou came into the

1054
00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:06,119
restaurant I was like I think I know

1055
00:48:10,730 --> 00:48:08,280
what I want to talk about like the UFO

1056
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:10,740
idea was on the table but it was but I

1057
00:48:14,089 --> 00:48:12,540
also had a sports idea I had a political

1058
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:14,099
idea I had a video game idea I had a

1059
00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:16,260
movie review idea so I was and then I

1060
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,420
had the UFO thing and that one came I

1061
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:20,640
was like [\h__\h] it I'm doing the UFO thing

1062
00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:22,380
like I want to talk about this it's the

1063
00:48:29,329 --> 00:48:26,520
most to me since 2017 it's it's been the

1064
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:29,339
most interesting time and the most

1065
00:48:36,890 --> 00:48:32,400
active time I've ever seen in this topic

1066
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:36,900
as a human like I we've not seen this

1067
00:48:41,809 --> 00:48:38,940
kind of movement especially on a

1068
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,819
political level since the 60s

1069
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:43,680
um so I don't agree with I'll agree with

1070
00:48:47,390 --> 00:48:45,540
the fact that there's a there seems to

1071
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:47,400
be a lot more media coverage and

1072
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,740
attention but I guess I'm cynical

1073
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:52,079
because I don't think that this you know

1074
00:48:56,569 --> 00:48:54,300
those people who like go rah rah-rah

1075
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:56,579
disclosures coming and they point to

1076
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,220
things that are happening I I don't I'm

1077
00:49:04,490 --> 00:49:01,680
just maybe I'm cynical I'm going no I

1078
00:49:06,349 --> 00:49:04,500
and that's and but there is I think it

1079
00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:06,359
is ferocious compared to what it used to

1080
00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:09,480
yeah I mean you have to be it's I think

1081
00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:11,700
it's okay to be cynical it's just it was

1082
00:49:16,130 --> 00:49:13,800
at least for me again coming from

1083
00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:16,140
someone who had an experience and then

1084
00:49:20,450 --> 00:49:18,540
you listened to the pilot and what they

1085
00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:20,460
say and then you see the video and

1086
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:21,960
you're like oh my God you like all of

1087
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:24,000
these things and you're like yeah you

1088
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:25,380
know on the surface you're like holy

1089
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,540
[\h__\h] something's happening this is

1090
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:30,480
amazing this is really cool like and so

1091
00:49:34,609 --> 00:49:32,220
you know

1092
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:34,619
the thing that inspired the phone home

1093
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:37,200
was like I would hear other shows always

1094
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:39,420
talk about or louisanda say at the end

1095
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:41,400
of the show like you know the best thing

1096
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,960
you could do is call your representative

1097
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,640
I'm like well that's not very inspiring

1098
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:46,079
you know how cool would it be if

1099
00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:48,660
everybody did it on the same day

1100
00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:50,700
um I think that was way more way more

1101
00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:52,680
impactful that I liked I thought that

1102
00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:55,079
was a great idea yeah so I mean like

1103
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,579
that's what again I'm sure they're going

1104
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,800
to think that this unless there's a

1105
00:50:02,569 --> 00:50:00,480
unless there's a hundred thousand dollar

1106
00:50:04,490 --> 00:50:02,579
check attached that Senator doesn't

1107
00:50:06,290 --> 00:50:04,500
really care about letters but I'd like

1108
00:50:09,230 --> 00:50:06,300
to think better of some of them some of

1109
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:09,240
them I mean I I would normally

1110
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:11,880
normally I agree with you right but the

1111
00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:13,980
the thing is about this topic is we've

1112
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,560
got Senators talking about it

1113
00:50:20,329 --> 00:50:18,240
um when they tweet about this topic it's

1114
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:20,339
the most liked and retweeted thing that

1115
00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:23,220
is on their thread you know so it's it's

1116
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:25,800
I still believe I just don't think the

1117
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:27,720
motivations are the same you know I have

1118
00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:29,220
my theories have obviously changed on

1119
00:50:32,750 --> 00:50:31,380
that but I really do believe that I

1120
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,760
wouldn't be shocked if in the next

1121
00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:34,319
presidential election you get a

1122
00:50:40,430 --> 00:50:37,020
candidate who's you know got like a

1123
00:50:42,109 --> 00:50:40,440
disclosure yeah four or five four or

1124
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,119
five initiatives and then that fifth or

1125
00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:44,400
sixth initiative is this disclosure

1126
00:50:48,049 --> 00:50:45,660
thing because if you're really

1127
00:50:50,210 --> 00:50:48,059
politically smart about it at the core

1128
00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:50,220
of this issue it's a transparency issue

1129
00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:52,920
it's you know it's it's you want to know

1130
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:55,500
what they know there's a lot of yeah you

1131
00:51:01,849 --> 00:50:59,040
know so so I for me

1132
00:51:05,390 --> 00:51:01,859
I was like well it's got political gas

1133
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:05,400
it's got public gas so let's take this

1134
00:51:09,290 --> 00:51:06,960
gas let's put in a lawnmower and see

1135
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:09,300
what happens you know it's for me it was

1136
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:10,800
like well we could sit around and be

1137
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,200
cynical or we can try and do something

1138
00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:14,880
and see well and I'd give you credit for

1139
00:51:18,049 --> 00:51:16,200
that because I was sitting around being

1140
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:18,059
cynical and you actually try to do

1141
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:19,740
something and it was very powerful

1142
00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:22,319
effort and and if nothing else like it

1143
00:51:28,010 --> 00:51:24,780
got a lot of people together to uh you

1144
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,020
know to try to make some kind of change

1145
00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:30,240
yeah well but so just to answer that

1146
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:33,960
question it's like you know I was trying

1147
00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:37,920
to because I had I I I already knew the

1148
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,780
answer to the question a year before we

1149
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:42,240
asked it I knew the answer to the

1150
00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:45,119
question so I was I didn't want to ruin

1151
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:48,180
the relationship off of that one rumor

1152
00:51:52,970 --> 00:51:50,700
you know what I mean and listen you got

1153
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:52,980
to tell me the truth here you thought he

1154
00:51:58,430 --> 00:51:55,920
could handle this and not like cry like

1155
00:52:00,650 --> 00:51:58,440
a [\h__\h] right like you you kind of knew

1156
00:52:03,049 --> 00:52:00,660
you kind of got to know him so you

1157
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,059
probably I I wondered this one I'm like

1158
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:05,280
he probably thought like Lou can handle

1159
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:06,540
this and not

1160
00:52:11,809 --> 00:52:09,540
you know get pissed off about it like

1161
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:11,819
you mean okay like I think you you

1162
00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:14,040
thought he he was going to be for sure

1163
00:52:17,650 --> 00:52:15,900
answer the question and not get pissed

1164
00:52:19,849 --> 00:52:17,660
off but it's great

1165
00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:19,859
well well here's the thing full

1166
00:52:26,510 --> 00:52:24,839
disclosure he he never ever ever told me

1167
00:52:30,410 --> 00:52:26,520
once this question is off the table

1168
00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:30,420
don't talk about this and and and there

1169
00:52:33,890 --> 00:52:32,579
were moments where I was like hey we

1170
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:33,900
might before the show where I was like

1171
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:35,640
hey we got some questions that are might

1172
00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:38,460
are gonna poke at you pretty hard

1173
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:40,260
and he's like I don't want to know him

1174
00:52:44,450 --> 00:52:41,880
just ask me the questions it's not a

1175
00:52:45,970 --> 00:52:44,460
problem I was like okay cool

1176
00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:45,980
um

1177
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:49,140
like that one man no but what what's

1178
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:54,059
really funny man is I know the the re I

1179
00:53:01,309 --> 00:52:57,480
don't think his whole hooker analogy

1180
00:53:02,569 --> 00:53:01,319
was out of anger I think it was to throw

1181
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:02,579
us off

1182
00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:06,359
to to to get us to backtrack and and go

1183
00:53:12,410 --> 00:53:09,780
what wait what huh and and throw us off

1184
00:53:14,170 --> 00:53:12,420
of our thinking pattern um

1185
00:53:16,730 --> 00:53:14,180
he he

1186
00:53:18,910 --> 00:53:16,740
wasn't angry about the question because

1187
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:18,920
him and I were texting after the show

1188
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,559
right after the show and it was very

1189
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:24,480
friend and the reason why I text him

1190
00:53:28,730 --> 00:53:26,280
after the show is right before he came

1191
00:53:31,849 --> 00:53:28,740
in he looked pissed he did not look

1192
00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:31,859
happy right like and he popped in like

1193
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:34,020
literally 10 seconds before the show

1194
00:53:37,390 --> 00:53:35,760
started and I saw his face when he but

1195
00:53:40,849 --> 00:53:37,400
you know how the pre

1196
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:40,859
lobbyists he pops in and I look at his

1197
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,220
face and he's just got he's pissed I

1198
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:46,800
could see it I I I'm familiar enough

1199
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:49,500
with him to know okay that's he's not

1200
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:53,280
happy and I was like I was like I was

1201
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,720
like hey you know is everything cool

1202
00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:56,640
he's like yeah everything's fine so we

1203
00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:58,260
start the show and then after the show I

1204
00:54:03,790 --> 00:54:00,180
text him hey like

1205
00:54:08,030 --> 00:54:03,800
because at the time that Manny 503

1206
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:08,040
documentary had come out and

1207
00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:09,839
um you know there was a call from Thomas

1208
00:54:14,329 --> 00:54:11,700
fessler to strike it and I was like I'm

1209
00:54:15,309 --> 00:54:14,339
not striking it dude it's fair use and

1210
00:54:17,809 --> 00:54:15,319
yeah

1211
00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:17,819
he mentioned that to me like a month

1212
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:20,099
before and I was like look you know I

1213
00:54:24,109 --> 00:54:22,020
think the best advice for that

1214
00:54:25,490 --> 00:54:24,119
documentary is to ignore it don't talk

1215
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,500
about it

1216
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:27,359
um because yeah they're striking and

1217
00:54:31,730 --> 00:54:29,160
everything else strike made sure more

1218
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:31,740
people saw it I think definitely but not

1219
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:33,480
only that the strikes are not going to

1220
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:36,839
hold up they're it's fair use as much as

1221
00:54:40,849 --> 00:54:39,000
I hate to admit it and and that's a

1222
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:40,859
that's a conversation I had with Manny

1223
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,500
privately yeah and you know I wanna I

1224
00:54:48,049 --> 00:54:45,839
wanna tell you something the bark of a

1225
00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:48,059
person who truly believes in free speech

1226
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:50,520
and and freedom of expression and fair

1227
00:54:54,650 --> 00:54:53,760
use is that if somebody uses those

1228
00:54:57,170 --> 00:54:54,660
things

1229
00:54:59,150 --> 00:54:57,180
and does something you disagree with you

1230
00:55:01,970 --> 00:54:59,160
still support their right to do so and

1231
00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:01,980
to your credit you did and I do as well

1232
00:55:05,950 --> 00:55:03,780
if somebody makes a documentary

1233
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:05,960
everybody everybody

1234
00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:08,400
is you know it's what I this is what I

1235
00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:10,140
told you everybody has a right to make a

1236
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:11,400
shitty movie

1237
00:55:17,329 --> 00:55:14,220
like you have that right and if it's and

1238
00:55:19,790 --> 00:55:17,339
if it's you know something that that is

1239
00:55:21,410 --> 00:55:19,800
going against you hey man it's it's fair

1240
00:55:23,930 --> 00:55:21,420
use

1241
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,940
um so I never struck the video do you

1242
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:25,440
still think it's a shitty movie though

1243
00:55:45,410 --> 00:55:43,730
here's what I told you I think you have

1244
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:45,420
a problem with just the artistic side of

1245
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:47,160
it like it was pretty basic it wasn't

1246
00:55:53,390 --> 00:55:50,700
like it was incredibly I mean it's dude

1247
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,400
the the sound effect that he used

1248
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:55,680
in the first 20 seconds of the film I'm

1249
00:55:58,970 --> 00:55:57,000
like if this is going to be the whole

1250
00:56:00,290 --> 00:55:58,980
movie I'm gonna put I'm gonna put a

1251
00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:00,300
bullet in my head

1252
00:56:04,809 --> 00:56:02,760
um it it was just from a from a

1253
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:04,819
cinematic standpoint it's not a film

1254
00:56:09,950 --> 00:56:07,040
it's it's well

1255
00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:09,960
he's not a filmmaker and he's admitted

1256
00:56:15,230 --> 00:56:13,500
that you know so like better and well

1257
00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:15,240
that's how films work right just like

1258
00:56:20,329 --> 00:56:18,300
with anything else practice yeah

1259
00:56:22,130 --> 00:56:20,339
um but like I told him I'm like listen

1260
00:56:23,809 --> 00:56:22,140
you know because we were talking about

1261
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,819
the fair use thing I'm like look I don't

1262
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,920
give a [\h__\h] that you use my footage but

1263
00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:27,599
if I'm gonna give you a piece of advice

1264
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:31,020
my advice is take it down go back to the

1265
00:56:36,109 --> 00:56:34,200
editing room and re-edit it re-edit it

1266
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:36,119
and then re-release it though you know

1267
00:56:40,430 --> 00:56:38,040
it wasn't so much the information that

1268
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:40,440
you had a problem within that no the way

1269
00:56:51,049 --> 00:56:44,280
it was edited and and produced yes

1270
00:56:55,130 --> 00:56:53,450
it's the same kind of issues that I had

1271
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:55,140
with your show when I didn't know who

1272
00:57:01,970 --> 00:56:59,040
you were right like it was

1273
00:57:03,890 --> 00:57:01,980
if you're coming in Middle stream and

1274
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:03,900
you're yelling at the top of your lungs

1275
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:05,760
or if you got a mask on talking about

1276
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,880
Linda Moulton house [\h__\h] like it's it's

1277
00:57:13,609 --> 00:57:11,280
shocking you know it's like [\h__\h] dude

1278
00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:13,619
like all right this ain't for me like

1279
00:57:19,309 --> 00:57:16,640
whatever this is I just it's like me

1280
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:19,319
that those of us that did not have the

1281
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,660
benefit of a bump from Lou Elizondo

1282
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,520
seven times might need to do other

1283
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:26,240
things to gather attention

1284
00:57:32,270 --> 00:57:30,000
and I'm not defending my whatever I did

1285
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:32,280
but I'm just saying some you know like

1286
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:35,220
sometimes getting eyeballs on you for

1287
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:36,960
sure for sure and I and I understand

1288
00:57:43,609 --> 00:57:41,220
that it's just the problem is

1289
00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:43,619
because here's where I found out you

1290
00:57:48,589 --> 00:57:46,140
were actually a good researcher it was

1291
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:48,599
the toe interview with Linda Bolton Howe

1292
00:57:52,010 --> 00:57:50,520
and it was you're say you set them up

1293
00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:52,020
and I knocked them down with her yeah

1294
00:57:55,790 --> 00:57:53,700
that was great that's that's one thing

1295
00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:55,800
we did together even when we did not

1296
00:58:00,290 --> 00:57:57,540
like each other and we did that together

1297
00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:00,300
we made it and that was great and that

1298
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:03,180
was that was she freaked but that was

1299
00:58:09,410 --> 00:58:05,700
random right but the thing that I that I

1300
00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:09,420
went oh [\h__\h] though I never heard the

1301
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,180
story of the video game cover I had no

1302
00:58:16,849 --> 00:58:14,640
clue that she had done that and I didn't

1303
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:16,859
know until I saw the question asked on

1304
00:58:22,490 --> 00:58:19,380
toe's Channel I was like damn

1305
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:22,500
she did that and I didn't see that and

1306
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,260
again a few like months later yeah but

1307
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:26,880
different pictures

1308
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:29,880
I think my point here is is that

1309
00:58:34,250 --> 00:58:32,640
if the you could you could tell the

1310
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:34,260
truth into your blue in the face and

1311
00:58:39,770 --> 00:58:36,960
maybe you're 100 accurate but if you

1312
00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:39,780
don't present that information correctly

1313
00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:42,420
people are gonna check out and that's

1314
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:44,940
right and that's familiar you said you

1315
00:58:49,130 --> 00:58:46,500
kind of said this to me before and I

1316
00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:49,140
thought about it and and also and this

1317
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,819
is not a defense but that whole time

1318
00:58:54,890 --> 00:58:52,559
that the whole time period you're

1319
00:59:01,089 --> 00:58:54,900
talking about I was drinking 20 beers a

1320
00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:06,410
much if you're already cynical uh

1321
00:59:13,789 --> 00:59:11,339
already and then yeah it's not a good

1322
00:59:16,130 --> 00:59:13,799
combination right and so and so that's

1323
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,140
that was my point it was like [\h__\h] like

1324
00:59:20,750 --> 00:59:18,480
and so you know I would watch your show

1325
00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:20,760
and I was like okay well at least I know

1326
00:59:26,270 --> 00:59:22,880
that he's genuinely

1327
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:26,280
trying to get to the truth of things

1328
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:29,760
it's just not my cup of tea like

1329
00:59:34,250 --> 00:59:32,160
I I've been in Hollywood for a really

1330
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:34,260
long time I've done a lot of films I've

1331
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:37,020
done a lot of production and if I was

1332
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:39,900
your producer I would sit down with you

1333
00:59:42,650 --> 00:59:41,280
and I say okay here's what you do really

1334
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,660
well here's what I don't think is great

1335
00:59:46,490 --> 00:59:44,160
and here's how I think we could build

1336
00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:46,500
your audience like how do we how do we

1337
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:48,599
close this Gap how do we attract the

1338
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,880
people that go oh okay this ain't for me

1339
00:59:56,210 --> 00:59:52,799
how do we get them back because the

1340
00:59:59,450 --> 00:59:56,220
information is good and so that's that

1341
01:00:01,490 --> 00:59:59,460
is where you know I think we didn't see

1342
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:01,500
eye to eye but now that

1343
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,960
you know post Lou Elizondo and sock

1344
01:00:07,490 --> 01:00:05,760
puppets and this whole thing and and

1345
01:00:09,049 --> 01:00:07,500
everything that happened and the in the

1346
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,059
in the Linda Walton Howe interview I'm

1347
01:00:13,549 --> 01:00:11,520
like okay at the core of this there's

1348
01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:13,559
good information

1349
01:00:17,210 --> 01:00:15,540
um and and I I don't agree with

1350
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:17,220
everything you say but at least I know

1351
01:00:23,710 --> 01:00:19,980
that there's a genuine effort right and

1352
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:23,720
and no one's going to be perfect

1353
01:00:28,849 --> 01:00:25,920
all of them every day and you know how

1354
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:28,859
what it's like yeah no no for sure for

1355
01:00:34,370 --> 01:00:31,140
sure and my best was a little clouded

1356
01:00:37,490 --> 01:00:34,380
and polluted by alcohol and anger and

1357
01:00:40,370 --> 01:00:37,500
right too many things distractions I

1358
01:00:42,530 --> 01:00:40,380
think I'm I'm working on those things no

1359
01:00:45,650 --> 01:00:42,540
and I think and I think

1360
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:45,660
I think you can see and hear the

1361
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:47,760
difference in the show

1362
01:00:56,030 --> 01:00:53,040
sure you know it's better it's it's it's

1363
01:00:59,450 --> 01:00:56,040
the thing you know I always judge a show

1364
01:01:01,849 --> 01:00:59,460
with can I share this with my friends

1365
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:01,859
you know what I mean and and that this

1366
01:01:06,049 --> 01:01:03,540
is what I was trying to tell Rich when

1367
01:01:09,289 --> 01:01:06,059
we him and I had our conversation like

1368
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:09,299
you have a you you have a yeah you have

1369
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:10,799
a right to say and think whatever the

1370
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:13,260
hell you want but I also have a right to

1371
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:15,839
form an opinion based off of your rants

1372
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:17,760
you know so

1373
01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:18,720
um

1374
01:01:26,329 --> 01:01:21,540
it is what it is man it is what it is uh

1375
01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:26,339
but you know truth always finds truth I

1376
01:01:30,109 --> 01:01:28,380
feel like I want to get back I want to

1377
01:01:32,089 --> 01:01:30,119
get back for just a moment to this yeah

1378
01:01:34,970 --> 01:01:32,099
puppet accounts just because selfishly I

1379
01:01:37,609 --> 01:01:34,980
found a clip of your co-host that I that

1380
01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:37,619
I did and uh and and that was fair use

1381
01:01:41,930 --> 01:01:39,960
honestly I didn't know you and I didn't

1382
01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:41,940
ask permission I thought well this is

1383
01:01:45,170 --> 01:01:43,319
fair use and then I'm like I hope the

1384
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,180
guy doesn't strike me but you didn't so

1385
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:47,280
thank you for that and this is a clip of

1386
01:01:51,289 --> 01:01:49,200
your co-host about the sock puppet

1387
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:51,299
controversy it's clear to me now that

1388
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:53,520
Lou Elizondo is

1389
01:01:58,190 --> 01:01:55,440
deceiving and manipulating the community

1390
01:02:00,589 --> 01:01:58,200
I mean 100 he admitted to that on our

1391
01:02:03,289 --> 01:02:00,599
interview Friday by using sock puppet

1392
01:02:06,049 --> 01:02:03,299
accounts to manipulate and deceive us

1393
01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:06,059
which I mean I

1394
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:08,460
so how can you trust someone who is

1395
01:02:11,630 --> 01:02:10,200
going to go and create a secret account

1396
01:02:13,849 --> 01:02:11,640
not only just create a secret account

1397
01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:13,859
and post on it but he creates these

1398
01:02:17,930 --> 01:02:16,020
in-groups and out groups of people who

1399
01:02:19,549 --> 01:02:17,940
are in on the secret and then he you

1400
01:02:22,549 --> 01:02:19,559
know shares a special knowledge with

1401
01:02:26,030 --> 01:02:22,559
them and really gets them to go out and

1402
01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:26,040
attack his critics you know his his we

1403
01:02:29,150 --> 01:02:27,660
can't see what the tweets that he posted

1404
01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:29,160
under these sock puppets anymore because

1405
01:02:32,809 --> 01:02:31,260
they've been deleted but you know he

1406
01:02:34,370 --> 01:02:32,819
made it seem like on the interview that

1407
01:02:35,870 --> 01:02:34,380
he was just responding to people who are

1408
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:35,880
doing personal attacks on his family

1409
01:02:40,609 --> 01:02:38,520
that's a load of BS you know there

1410
01:02:42,890 --> 01:02:40,619
wasn't really any attacks on this family

1411
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:42,900
before this whole who's Lou documentary

1412
01:02:47,390 --> 01:02:45,599
started and that was after he deleted

1413
01:02:49,789 --> 01:02:47,400
his sock puppet account he was using

1414
01:02:52,190 --> 01:02:49,799
that account to attack people like Mick

1415
01:02:54,650 --> 01:02:52,200
West and Stephen Green Street and

1416
01:02:57,410 --> 01:02:54,660
you know rile people up and and Stow

1417
01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:57,420
Division and to what end is really my

1418
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:59,160
question now you know why he says that

1419
01:03:03,289 --> 01:03:01,619
his audience isn't UFO Twitter if his

1420
01:03:05,210 --> 01:03:03,299
audience isn't UFO Twitter why does he

1421
01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:05,220
have multiple socks off of accounts

1422
01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:08,640
engaging with UFO Twitter and doing all

1423
01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:10,920
this nonsense like it just doesn't make

1424
01:03:14,690 --> 01:03:12,480
any sense to me I'm

1425
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:14,700
I'm out of at a loss really

1426
01:03:17,570 --> 01:03:25,130
[Music]

1427
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:26,930
let me tell you

1428
01:03:32,349 --> 01:03:30,000
when Stephen Green Street clipped that

1429
01:03:35,170 --> 01:03:32,359
that's when Lou Elizondo got pissed

1430
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:35,180
because then it's New York

1431
01:03:40,849 --> 01:03:39,119
when when that clip was was taken and

1432
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:40,859
shared by Stephen Green Street by the

1433
01:03:44,809 --> 01:03:42,960
way I'm not pissed off but I think I did

1434
01:03:47,569 --> 01:03:44,819
it first I could be wrong but I think

1435
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,579
maybe maybe maybe you did but nobody

1436
01:03:52,430 --> 01:03:49,920
cared when I did it but no it wasn't

1437
01:03:55,670 --> 01:03:52,440
even in Green Street no no no no it was

1438
01:03:58,970 --> 01:03:55,680
that was that was literally the link I

1439
01:04:01,069 --> 01:03:58,980
got from Lua lizondo when he messaged me

1440
01:04:02,450 --> 01:04:01,079
and he wrote something along the lines

1441
01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:02,460
of this is why I don't want to do

1442
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:04,140
interviews anymore because people take

1443
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:05,760
what I say out of context and then they

1444
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:07,680
form opinions like your buddy Squiddy

1445
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:10,319
here and I'm like bro he's got a right

1446
01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:13,680
to be pissed like he's got a right to be

1447
01:04:18,950 --> 01:04:15,900
pissed okay and that was the day after

1448
01:04:21,770 --> 01:04:18,960
the whole your mother hooker analogy and

1449
01:04:25,010 --> 01:04:21,780
he had 24 hours to think about it and

1450
01:04:28,730 --> 01:04:25,020
then we went on the next day and he was

1451
01:04:32,329 --> 01:04:28,740
pissed rather was so I've never seen

1452
01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:32,339
rather that mad ever and what really

1453
01:04:37,069 --> 01:04:34,319
would be so level-headed that I was

1454
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,079
surprised well I always find an even

1455
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:39,839
tempered and dude he's like the Walter

1456
01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:42,799
Cronk kind of UFOs he's so

1457
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:45,839
that's why I was that's why I was

1458
01:04:50,030 --> 01:04:47,760
laughing so hard when people were like

1459
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:50,040
what's up with that rather attacking

1460
01:04:55,970 --> 01:04:53,400
John you know uh uh John Ramirez he's so

1461
01:04:59,150 --> 01:04:55,980
rude he's so unhinged I'm like do you

1462
01:05:00,890 --> 01:04:59,160
think that's unhinged like right so let

1463
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:00,900
me get this straight this face of rather

1464
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:02,880
be this guy this is the guy that's

1465
01:05:07,609 --> 01:05:05,220
breaking Lou Elizondo like give me a

1466
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:07,619
break this is this is the guy that's

1467
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:10,260
breaking John Ramirez like no I'm sorry

1468
01:05:14,930 --> 01:05:12,059
that's [\h__\h]

1469
01:05:17,930 --> 01:05:14,940
um but what what was um

1470
01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:17,940
you know the thing that I told Lou when

1471
01:05:23,030 --> 01:05:19,859
he got mad at me and this is like our

1472
01:05:25,849 --> 01:05:23,040
last basically our last conversation

1473
01:05:29,390 --> 01:05:25,859
um you know I was like you know

1474
01:05:34,270 --> 01:05:32,270
you have no right to be mad at us

1475
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:34,280
okay as much

1476
01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:42,289
yes but but before that question not

1477
01:05:48,289 --> 01:05:45,660
only me but rather and Michael and Jane

1478
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,299
and a few other people behind the scenes

1479
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:50,400
devoted

1480
01:05:56,750 --> 01:05:54,720
so many hours to the big phone home one

1481
01:05:59,809 --> 01:05:56,760
two and three

1482
01:06:02,510 --> 01:05:59,819
um we and we did all of those things

1483
01:06:07,069 --> 01:06:02,520
well not three but part one and two for

1484
01:06:10,849 --> 01:06:07,079
sure like you're talking easily easily a

1485
01:06:13,309 --> 01:06:10,859
couple of a few hundred hours of of

1486
01:06:15,230 --> 01:06:13,319
booking guests making websites uh

1487
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:15,240
putting together Congressional callists

1488
01:06:20,089 --> 01:06:16,980
writing scripts

1489
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:20,099
um like they were so so so many things

1490
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:23,220
to do to make those events work and we

1491
01:06:29,569 --> 01:06:26,880
did it all for him we did it to help him

1492
01:06:31,089 --> 01:06:29,579
and so for him to turn around and be

1493
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:31,099
like I'm not doing your show anymore

1494
01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:35,039
because Stephen Green Street took a uh

1495
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:38,180
uh you know a clip from rather being

1496
01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:40,799
justifiably angry

1497
01:06:44,990 --> 01:06:43,020
and you're going to use that as the

1498
01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:45,000
excuse of I'm never coming on your show

1499
01:06:48,829 --> 01:06:45,839
again

1500
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:48,839
[\h__\h] you dude like we we've we've got

1501
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:51,119
skin in this game we've got skin in this

1502
01:06:55,730 --> 01:06:53,760
game and and I told him I didn't say

1503
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:55,740
[\h__\h] you but I was pissed but I was like

1504
01:07:02,630 --> 01:06:58,559
look you know here's all the things that

1505
01:07:06,370 --> 01:07:02,640
rather has done in defending and helping

1506
01:07:09,529 --> 01:07:06,380
you so if you think he's a bad guy

1507
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:09,539
good luck dude like I'm sorry like

1508
01:07:14,930 --> 01:07:12,720
you're wrong and I that's when right

1509
01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:14,940
then and there that's when I was like

1510
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:17,700
[\h__\h] this like this is

1511
01:07:22,670 --> 01:07:19,680
this is [\h__\h]

1512
01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:22,680
um I I ride or die with rather be

1513
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:25,260
squidding all the way to the end

1514
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:29,760
um he's he's so damn smart and he's so

1515
01:07:34,970 --> 01:07:33,599
just reasonable just reasonable

1516
01:07:38,329 --> 01:07:34,980
um and that's why I love having him on

1517
01:07:41,210 --> 01:07:38,339
my show because anytime I any time I

1518
01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:41,220
tried with every fiber in my being to

1519
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:43,500
never put my belief system into the show

1520
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:46,500
but that's impossible but anytime

1521
01:07:53,870 --> 01:07:50,400
anytime I got too far with that rather

1522
01:07:57,710 --> 01:07:53,880
was there yes right you know so that's

1523
01:08:00,829 --> 01:07:57,720
what the beauty of the show you know so

1524
01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:00,839
um it was really insulting it was a slap

1525
01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:04,500
in the face to hear your or read what he

1526
01:08:09,289 --> 01:08:08,280
said to me after that clip came out

1527
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,299
um

1528
01:08:15,410 --> 01:08:11,760
yeah man it was just

1529
01:08:16,849 --> 01:08:15,420
it was really it showed me exactly who

1530
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:16,859
he was

1531
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:19,440
um and then you add the sock puppets on

1532
01:08:23,809 --> 01:08:21,480
top of that and then you add the the

1533
01:08:25,309 --> 01:08:23,819
things that he was calling people in a

1534
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:25,319
text to me

1535
01:08:29,870 --> 01:08:27,839
um like it was just it was too much you

1536
01:08:32,030 --> 01:08:29,880
also have to add the fact that you were

1537
01:08:33,769 --> 01:08:32,040
so supportive of Lou Elizondo for all

1538
01:08:35,450 --> 01:08:33,779
this time you have seven interviews with

1539
01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:35,460
him that were all overwhelmingly

1540
01:08:39,650 --> 01:08:37,920
positive except for this one time he

1541
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:39,660
didn't like one question and something

1542
01:08:48,169 --> 01:08:44,880
you know so then that the whole Twitter

1543
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,179
Brigade of fake nameless faceless

1544
01:08:53,090 --> 01:08:49,920
accounts comes out of nowhere I've

1545
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,100
experienced this many times and you're

1546
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:55,679
suddenly the bad guy that used to all

1547
01:09:01,550 --> 01:08:59,040
rah-rah rah cheer you and you one

1548
01:09:05,890 --> 01:09:01,560
question that Lou Elizondo didn't like

1549
01:09:12,769 --> 01:09:10,070
the question was the green light for

1550
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:12,779
everybody for everybody to really hate

1551
01:09:20,450 --> 01:09:16,080
me but right before the big phone home

1552
01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:20,460
too we were getting this from UFO Joe

1553
01:09:27,470 --> 01:09:24,000
from witless citizen from

1554
01:09:31,249 --> 01:09:27,480
um uh you know that that conglomeration

1555
01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:31,259
of of uh whatever the hell they call

1556
01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:32,580
themselves

1557
01:09:37,249 --> 01:09:34,739
um you know like these positive

1558
01:09:39,769 --> 01:09:37,259
disclosure Advocates who are behind the

1559
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:39,779
scenes and that's the [\h__\h] awful

1560
01:09:46,189 --> 01:09:43,920
people they are so nasty and they were

1561
01:09:48,110 --> 01:09:46,199
at any cost you have to dox people

1562
01:09:50,090 --> 01:09:48,120
threaten people will intimidate people

1563
01:09:52,130 --> 01:09:50,100
harass people we're getting our

1564
01:09:54,410 --> 01:09:52,140
disclosure and anybody that says

1565
01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:54,420
anything negative about us getting our

1566
01:09:58,610 --> 01:09:55,739
disclosure

1567
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:58,620
[\h__\h] them you know yeah no it was but

1568
01:10:02,990 --> 01:10:00,480
what was crazy is they were attacking me

1569
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:03,000
for making money on the show that's

1570
01:10:07,010 --> 01:10:04,560
where it started it's like they were

1571
01:10:08,689 --> 01:10:07,020
they were they were chastising me for

1572
01:10:09,650 --> 01:10:08,699
making money I was like dude my Show's

1573
01:10:13,970 --> 01:10:09,660
free

1574
01:10:16,189 --> 01:10:13,980
but yeah I always say the same thing

1575
01:10:18,410 --> 01:10:16,199
like there's like we gotta talk about

1576
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:18,420
one thing here this is what I'll say

1577
01:10:24,649 --> 01:10:22,800
this this is so funny so people who

1578
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,659
don't like I'm gonna tell you the truth

1579
01:10:28,490 --> 01:10:26,400
you know listen I don't you haven't

1580
01:10:30,890 --> 01:10:28,500
heard this but it's got a good ending so

1581
01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:30,900
it's okay so people people that don't

1582
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:33,300
like Lou start sending me his patreon

1583
01:10:36,530 --> 01:10:34,800
and they go

1584
01:10:38,330 --> 01:10:36,540
he's taken all this money from people

1585
01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:38,340
and he doesn't even do it my patreon

1586
01:10:43,250 --> 01:10:41,340
yeah your patreon they so everybody

1587
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:43,260
sending me messages that don't like you

1588
01:10:48,890 --> 01:10:46,920
saying Steve every and to be to be very

1589
01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:48,900
honest a few of my patreon supporters

1590
01:10:52,490 --> 01:10:50,580
sent me a message too because they go

1591
01:10:55,610 --> 01:10:52,500
every month you're posting this extra

1592
01:10:57,290 --> 01:10:55,620
stuff on your patreon and he's taking

1593
01:11:00,830 --> 01:10:57,300
all this money and he's doing nothing

1594
01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:00,840
and you know before I looked at it I was

1595
01:11:05,930 --> 01:11:02,760
pissed I go

1596
01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:05,940
yeah what the problem because everyone's

1597
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:07,380
at the end of the month it's like a Mad

1598
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:09,780
Dash oh my God maybe I forgot I didn't

1599
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,239
give him enough I gotta go do all this

1600
01:11:16,370 --> 01:11:14,400
extra stuff for the couple hundred bucks

1601
01:11:18,649 --> 01:11:16,380
and by the way I'm happy to get it but

1602
01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,659
I've gotta It's a Grind every month to

1603
01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:20,640
make sure you get that extra stuff so

1604
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:23,580
before I saw lose patreon and what it

1605
01:11:29,030 --> 01:11:27,600
said in all the tears I said he's just

1606
01:11:32,209 --> 01:11:29,040
taking money he's not doing anything

1607
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,219
yeah [\h__\h] that guy I gotta bust my ass

1608
01:11:37,370 --> 01:11:34,080
every month to make this extra content

1609
01:11:40,250 --> 01:11:37,380
then I looked at lose patreon and he has

1610
01:11:42,530 --> 01:11:40,260
these tears and every tear says the same

1611
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,540
thing you will get nothing extra but

1612
01:11:46,910 --> 01:11:44,880
you'll be supporting my show where you

1613
01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:46,920
get nothing you get nothing nothing

1614
01:11:51,950 --> 01:11:49,860
extra nothing I mean and then you look

1615
01:11:54,350 --> 01:11:51,960
at the next tier ten dollars it says the

1616
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:54,360
same thing you get nothing extra yeah

1617
01:11:58,610 --> 01:11:55,920
twenty dollars thirty dollars fifty

1618
01:12:01,310 --> 01:11:58,620
dollars whatever and then I had a 500

1619
01:12:03,709 --> 01:12:01,320
000. I wish I would have thought of that

1620
01:12:06,110 --> 01:12:03,719
[\h__\h] I can't be mad at this guy this is

1621
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,120
brilliant and what and he's right is

1622
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:08,159
you're just giving him the couple extra

1623
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:10,320
bucks on patreon so that he could

1624
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:13,199
produce a good show and make it free for

1625
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:15,360
everybody and I do that as well when

1626
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,760
people [\h__\h] at me about money I say you

1627
01:12:21,470 --> 01:12:19,440
gotta look you might have to look at an

1628
01:12:24,050 --> 01:12:21,480
ad or listen to an ad on the audio

1629
01:12:26,330 --> 01:12:24,060
podcast but it's free you don't have to

1630
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:26,340
I also you know to give away anything

1631
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:28,980
you know unlike unlike other podcasts I

1632
01:12:33,050 --> 01:12:30,719
don't I didn't put any of my [\h__\h] behind

1633
01:12:35,209 --> 01:12:33,060
a paywall either I'm like because I

1634
01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:35,219
didn't want I didn't want anybody

1635
01:12:39,229 --> 01:12:37,140
at the beginning I was like I don't want

1636
01:12:41,689 --> 01:12:39,239
to be Linda Moulton Howe I don't want to

1637
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,699
be I don't want a member section yeah I

1638
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:43,199
don't want anybody throwing the

1639
01:12:46,850 --> 01:12:44,880
accusation you're only in this for the

1640
01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:46,860
money and so it blew my mind what people

1641
01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:48,420
were saying I'm only in this for the

1642
01:12:53,090 --> 01:12:50,100
money I'm like you're [\h__\h] crazy like

1643
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,100
though I'm doing five shows a week I'm

1644
01:12:57,050 --> 01:12:54,960
not giving you anything [\h__\h] extra

1645
01:12:58,970 --> 01:12:57,060
like give me a break dude like this is a

1646
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:58,980
free show the podcast it's available

1647
01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:01,440
immediately but the only thing I charge

1648
01:13:05,570 --> 01:13:04,440
for is is the merch which I have no

1649
01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:05,580
choice

1650
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:07,560
um and then the patreon I'm trying to

1651
01:13:12,350 --> 01:13:09,840
make it yeah yeah and the patreon is

1652
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:12,360
volunteer like you you volunteered to

1653
01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:14,400
donate that money and same thing with

1654
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,260
the super chats uh the only thing with

1655
01:13:22,130 --> 01:13:19,199
this at the beginning of the show

1656
01:13:24,350 --> 01:13:22,140
um I was very because I watch YouTube

1657
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:24,360
shows too and I love when I put in my

1658
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,640
five bucks and they read my thing as

1659
01:13:29,870 --> 01:13:28,320
they're doing the show my question or

1660
01:13:31,870 --> 01:13:29,880
whatever it is yeah

1661
01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:31,880
um

1662
01:13:37,729 --> 01:13:35,340
anything right right and so when I

1663
01:13:40,669 --> 01:13:37,739
started getting like my show was getting

1664
01:13:43,250 --> 01:13:40,679
just bombarded with super chats I loved

1665
01:13:45,169 --> 01:13:43,260
it whether Lou was on or whether whoever

1666
01:13:47,450 --> 01:13:45,179
was on we would always get a ton of

1667
01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:47,460
super chats and then

1668
01:13:53,450 --> 01:13:49,800
that made a lot of people [\h__\h]

1669
01:13:55,729 --> 01:13:53,460
jealous especially UFO Joe and Sean Rash

1670
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,739
and all those other guys and they

1671
01:13:58,669 --> 01:13:57,120
looking at my show they're like why is

1672
01:14:01,010 --> 01:13:58,679
this guy's getting so much Super Chat

1673
01:14:03,890 --> 01:14:01,020
and then Sean Cahill starts chiming in

1674
01:14:06,350 --> 01:14:03,900
with you know his whole broken

1675
01:14:08,750 --> 01:14:06,360
philosophies about how they shouldn't be

1676
01:14:10,970 --> 01:14:08,760
entertaining I'm like bro no matter how

1677
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:10,980
you break this down it's gonna end up in

1678
01:14:14,930 --> 01:14:12,840
it it's gonna end up in a newspaper it's

1679
01:14:17,689 --> 01:14:14,940
gonna end up on a TV show it's gonna be

1680
01:14:20,050 --> 01:14:17,699
a movie it's gonna be a news program and

1681
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,060
all of those things have attached to it

1682
01:14:25,130 --> 01:14:22,560
advertisers and advertisements and

1683
01:14:26,990 --> 01:14:25,140
commercials and all sorts of stuff so it

1684
01:14:29,209 --> 01:14:27,000
is entertainment whether you liked it I

1685
01:14:32,450 --> 01:14:29,219
don't give a [\h__\h] if you write a book if

1686
01:14:35,390 --> 01:14:32,460
you do a magazine if you if you do a

1687
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,400
podcast It's Entertainment this is not a

1688
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:38,159
science yeah and it's something I didn't

1689
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:39,840
understand the criticism about the money

1690
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:42,000
thing no it was insane but like

1691
01:14:46,669 --> 01:14:43,760
everybody

1692
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:46,679
that's monetized has ads or takes super

1693
01:14:51,229 --> 01:14:48,239
chats that's the way I was like

1694
01:14:55,130 --> 01:14:51,239
especially with UFO Joe where like he

1695
01:14:58,430 --> 01:14:55,140
begs he begs people for money and here's

1696
01:15:01,370 --> 01:14:58,440
Stephen Stephen here is the absolute

1697
01:15:04,010 --> 01:15:01,380
kicker after I did the big phone home

1698
01:15:05,870 --> 01:15:04,020
I've I was like okay I see the formula

1699
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:05,880
like I see how we can really make this

1700
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:06,719
work

1701
01:15:11,390 --> 01:15:08,880
have a lot of fun and possibly make this

1702
01:15:12,890 --> 01:15:11,400
a career and so I started reaching out

1703
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,900
because I thought they were my friends

1704
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:14,640
at the time but two people in particular

1705
01:15:19,610 --> 01:15:16,980
I reached out to and and and I'll

1706
01:15:22,610 --> 01:15:19,620
preface this with I have no problems at

1707
01:15:25,130 --> 01:15:22,620
all with Danny Silva uh but like I

1708
01:15:27,890 --> 01:15:25,140
reached out to Joe Mercia I reached out

1709
01:15:29,870 --> 01:15:27,900
to Danny Silva and I was like hey I

1710
01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:29,880
think I can help you

1711
01:15:34,850 --> 01:15:32,760
build your audience build your blog come

1712
01:15:37,250 --> 01:15:34,860
on my show once a week let's promote

1713
01:15:40,430 --> 01:15:37,260
your show and let's see if we can get

1714
01:15:41,930 --> 01:15:40,440
you like this I was telling everybody I

1715
01:15:45,010 --> 01:15:41,940
even told Sprague like I could see the

1716
01:15:52,610 --> 01:15:48,770
and so I was like let's get as many

1717
01:15:56,750 --> 01:15:52,620
knowledgeable people on this program as

1718
01:16:02,209 --> 01:15:56,760
possible and help propel them and also

1719
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:02,219
you know help us and um and Danny was

1720
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:03,600
like you know

1721
01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:05,820
thank you but no thank you I'ma

1722
01:16:09,530 --> 01:16:07,739
basically told me I'm a lone wolf I like

1723
01:16:11,930 --> 01:16:09,540
to do things on my own I'm like cool

1724
01:16:14,450 --> 01:16:11,940
dude no issue oh that's fair uh Joe Joe

1725
01:16:16,910 --> 01:16:14,460
is straight up like no not [\h__\h] doing

1726
01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:16,920
that and then he started attacking me I

1727
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,020
was like dude you got some balls man

1728
01:16:26,090 --> 01:16:21,600
like the ball's on you

1729
01:16:29,390 --> 01:16:26,100
um it was just uh Sean Rash I that guy

1730
01:16:31,970 --> 01:16:29,400
called me crying because he wanted to

1731
01:16:34,189 --> 01:16:31,980
quit his show and I was like dude I

1732
01:16:36,110 --> 01:16:34,199
think I'm doing what's going around I

1733
01:16:37,790 --> 01:16:36,120
was like I was like dude I think you're

1734
01:16:41,149 --> 01:16:37,800
doing something special I wouldn't quit

1735
01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:41,159
if I had the ability to call uh members

1736
01:16:46,370 --> 01:16:43,980
of Congress live on my show I would do

1737
01:16:47,570 --> 01:16:46,380
that all the time but I can't do it

1738
01:16:49,010 --> 01:16:47,580
because I live in the state of

1739
01:16:50,530 --> 01:16:49,020
California and you're not allowed to

1740
01:16:53,149 --> 01:16:50,540
record people

1741
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:53,159
either side of the conversation without

1742
01:16:58,130 --> 01:16:55,380
their permission so unless it's an

1743
01:17:00,110 --> 01:16:58,140
interview like I can't do it and so I

1744
01:17:01,850 --> 01:17:00,120
was encouraging him dude stick with it I

1745
01:17:05,870 --> 01:17:01,860
I think you I think I think what you're

1746
01:17:08,510 --> 01:17:05,880
doing is cool but again the way he hosts

1747
01:17:10,729 --> 01:17:08,520
he's such a sad boy and he played like

1748
01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:10,739
he's such a victim and he's always so

1749
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:12,659
sad and he's playing his guitar with his

1750
01:17:17,689 --> 01:17:15,120
metal dramatic [\h__\h] and it was like

1751
01:17:19,070 --> 01:17:17,699
dude your show sucks that's why nobody's

1752
01:17:20,810 --> 01:17:19,080
watching it that's why nobody is

1753
01:17:24,169 --> 01:17:20,820
donating that's why you're having such a

1754
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,179
hard time growing because you're nobody

1755
01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:26,400
wants to tune in to somebody who says

1756
01:17:31,729 --> 01:17:29,760
feel sorry for me you know like nobody

1757
01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:31,739
wants to watch that

1758
01:17:36,130 --> 01:17:33,960
um and so like some people that are

1759
01:17:38,810 --> 01:17:36,140
right and then some people I've heard

1760
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,820
some people actually threaten their

1761
01:17:42,470 --> 01:17:40,560
audiences like they're not making enough

1762
01:17:44,330 --> 01:17:42,480
money so they have to quit and then the

1763
01:17:46,270 --> 01:17:44,340
super chats come pouring in and then

1764
01:17:49,310 --> 01:17:46,280
they do it again and again and again

1765
01:17:51,290 --> 01:17:49,320
it's it's crazy and here's the part that

1766
01:17:53,810 --> 01:17:51,300
kills me when people tell me I was in

1767
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:53,820
this for the money and the money that I

1768
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,380
got from the big phone home like this

1769
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,600
huge [\h__\h] I showed everybody every penny

1770
01:18:02,750 --> 01:18:00,239
I made I know yeah every [\h__\h] penny I

1771
01:18:04,490 --> 01:18:02,760
ever made on the show and if I was in

1772
01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:04,500
this for the money

1773
01:18:11,630 --> 01:18:09,300
I would have dug in my heels defended Lu

1774
01:18:13,490 --> 01:18:11,640
Elizondo kicked rather be squidding off

1775
01:18:14,930 --> 01:18:13,500
my show and I would have the most

1776
01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:14,940
popular [\h__\h] show on the internet

1777
01:18:18,350 --> 01:18:16,260
right now

1778
01:18:19,850 --> 01:18:18,360
the most popular

1779
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:19,860
period

1780
01:18:23,390 --> 01:18:21,840
um Lou probably would have been back I

1781
01:18:26,770 --> 01:18:23,400
probably would have had Sean Cahill back

1782
01:18:29,169 --> 01:18:26,780
like I could have I could have made

1783
01:18:31,610 --> 01:18:29,179
infinitely more money

1784
01:18:34,010 --> 01:18:31,620
just just swallowed your pride and shut

1785
01:18:36,590 --> 01:18:34,020
up about that well and not only that but

1786
01:18:40,610 --> 01:18:36,600
just play ball play ball and know and

1787
01:18:43,850 --> 01:18:40,620
spit [\h__\h] that you know is not facts or

1788
01:18:46,910 --> 01:18:43,860
even hat there's no even ability to

1789
01:18:48,770 --> 01:18:46,920
check to see if it's factual

1790
01:18:50,390 --> 01:18:48,780
um and I wasn't gonna do that man like I

1791
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:50,400
wasn't gonna do that after being

1792
01:18:54,169 --> 01:18:52,380
manipulated and used and having my

1793
01:18:57,050 --> 01:18:54,179
private messages leaked and having

1794
01:18:59,149 --> 01:18:57,060
Richard button and Rob Heatherly like

1795
01:19:01,490 --> 01:18:59,159
these two Maniacs attacking me

1796
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:01,500
constantly and they're the ones who are

1797
01:19:05,930 --> 01:19:03,360
leaking my messages I'm like dude this

1798
01:19:08,990 --> 01:19:05,940
is this is a [\h__\h] show

1799
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,000
um it's an absolute question and and

1800
01:19:12,890 --> 01:19:11,280
here's the thing here's why I know and

1801
01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:12,900
this is really something people should

1802
01:19:18,050 --> 01:19:14,760
consider

1803
01:19:21,530 --> 01:19:18,060
here's how you know I'm being honest

1804
01:19:23,930 --> 01:19:21,540
because Lou Elizondo has not one time

1805
01:19:27,890 --> 01:19:23,940
addressed any of the things that I have

1806
01:19:30,290 --> 01:19:27,900
said on on his text messages on any of

1807
01:19:32,030 --> 01:19:30,300
this yeah if he were lying he could

1808
01:19:35,689 --> 01:19:32,040
correct you he didn't he could correct

1809
01:19:37,790 --> 01:19:35,699
me right away right away he did it with

1810
01:19:40,850 --> 01:19:37,800
Josh and Artemis

1811
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:40,860
you know remember that like so he has

1812
01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:42,960
the capability of correcting the record

1813
01:19:48,290 --> 01:19:46,380
and he corrects it anytime someone says

1814
01:19:50,090 --> 01:19:48,300
that they're that they're lying about

1815
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:50,100
him he has not done that with our show

1816
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,000
Once well and he didn't deny that the

1817
01:19:59,450 --> 01:19:55,920
employment records I found were his or

1818
01:20:01,189 --> 01:19:59,460
another another Luis Elizondo I I still

1819
01:20:04,070 --> 01:20:01,199
have not gotten an answer back from the

1820
01:20:06,709 --> 01:20:04,080
government I tried to I sent multiple

1821
01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:06,719
letters now saying is this Luis Elizondo

1822
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:09,239
who's on Fox News and and famous for

1823
01:20:14,270 --> 01:20:12,480
UFOs or this is this another one uh not

1824
01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:14,280
related to him and nobody has gotten

1825
01:20:18,050 --> 01:20:16,440
back to me I sent it to him or tweeted

1826
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:18,060
it to him and asked him

1827
01:20:23,870 --> 01:20:21,360
no answer so you know and then I get

1828
01:20:27,169 --> 01:20:23,880
[\h__\h] like you should have verified it's

1829
01:20:29,570 --> 01:20:27,179
actually him before before running with

1830
01:20:31,790 --> 01:20:29,580
it well I tried and nobody got back to

1831
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:31,800
me and I thought by releasing it we

1832
01:20:36,050 --> 01:20:33,900
would get more information and maybe we

1833
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:36,060
still will you know I don't know

1834
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:37,620
I mean who knows

1835
01:20:41,450 --> 01:20:40,080
um at this point

1836
01:20:43,310 --> 01:20:41,460
I don't think there's any information

1837
01:20:45,950 --> 01:20:43,320
that's going to come out that makes him

1838
01:20:51,290 --> 01:20:45,960
right

1839
01:20:53,570 --> 01:20:51,300
level that he's proclaiming that he's

1840
01:20:55,850 --> 01:20:53,580
going to be right so all this stuff

1841
01:20:58,490 --> 01:20:55,860
builds and then like can you just talk

1842
01:21:01,370 --> 01:20:58,500
about like so you decide to pack it in

1843
01:21:04,250 --> 01:21:01,380
for you know a time at least well

1844
01:21:06,169 --> 01:21:04,260
because people keep asking me is this a

1845
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:06,179
break or is he packing that whole show

1846
01:21:09,649 --> 01:21:07,500
in and he'll come back with something

1847
01:21:11,689 --> 01:21:09,659
different I'm I'm really still on the

1848
01:21:14,689 --> 01:21:11,699
fence about it really

1849
01:21:17,090 --> 01:21:14,699
um I I'm I am I just had a a

1850
01:21:20,330 --> 01:21:17,100
conversation today with a whole nother

1851
01:21:22,250 --> 01:21:20,340
production team and uh and how to build

1852
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:22,260
their audience and and all the things

1853
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:23,760
that I've learned for the last two years

1854
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:25,920
and applying it to their Channel being a

1855
01:21:29,209 --> 01:21:27,900
producer for their show and getting paid

1856
01:21:32,750 --> 01:21:29,219
for it

1857
01:21:35,689 --> 01:21:32,760
um like I I I don't

1858
01:21:38,270 --> 01:21:35,699
so you might take a step I don't know I

1859
01:21:39,950 --> 01:21:38,280
don't know yeah I don't know a behind

1860
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:39,960
the scenes guy maybe is that in your

1861
01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:43,679
future no I don't think I I it just

1862
01:21:48,050 --> 01:21:46,080
depends on what happens right like if if

1863
01:21:50,270 --> 01:21:48,060
things go the way I hope they go I'll

1864
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,280
never talk about this again

1865
01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:52,320
um if they don't

1866
01:21:55,310 --> 01:21:53,100
um

1867
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:55,320
you know maybe I'll devote because I I

1868
01:21:59,930 --> 01:21:57,600
do have some ideas of things that I want

1869
01:22:02,209 --> 01:21:59,940
to um

1870
01:22:04,130 --> 01:22:02,219
like films I want to produce around this

1871
01:22:04,729 --> 01:22:04,140
topic

1872
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:04,739
um

1873
01:22:13,310 --> 01:22:10,970
something I really wanted to do right

1874
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,320
after uh all of this [\h__\h] went down and

1875
01:22:18,649 --> 01:22:15,840
I did my last episode

1876
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:18,659
um and and you guys I'm sure you have

1877
01:22:23,149 --> 01:22:21,120
seen uh some of the videos I've I've

1878
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:23,159
some of the edits I've produced post

1879
01:22:28,189 --> 01:22:25,980
last show uh you know one of them got me

1880
01:22:31,370 --> 01:22:28,199
a copyright claim thanks for that by the

1881
01:22:35,930 --> 01:22:31,380
way yeah you know like for those unaware

1882
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:35,940
who made a video making fun of this uh

1883
01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:37,679
well you're talking about not even

1884
01:22:42,050 --> 01:22:39,780
making fun of informing people I didn't

1885
01:22:44,090 --> 01:22:42,060
even talk about her yeah well there's a

1886
01:22:47,630 --> 01:22:44,100
video that he produced that was really

1887
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:47,640
great about this Marina sarin who you

1888
01:22:52,130 --> 01:22:49,800
know wears Nazi earrings and goes all

1889
01:22:55,310 --> 01:22:52,140
Nazi podcasts and talks about the good

1890
01:22:58,490 --> 01:22:55,320
Nazis and so he made a great video I

1891
01:23:01,729 --> 01:22:58,500
shared it and uh the the Nazi

1892
01:23:03,709 --> 01:23:01,739
uh guy sympathizer I don't know the

1893
01:23:06,250 --> 01:23:03,719
correct term he's a big fan of Adolf

1894
01:23:09,470 --> 01:23:06,260
Hitler he loves the Nazis Brian ruha

1895
01:23:13,130 --> 01:23:09,480
copyright claimed my show because I used

1896
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:13,140
Lou's clip where he used a one minute 30

1897
01:23:18,410 --> 01:23:16,080
second clip from that guy's show we have

1898
01:23:20,510 --> 01:23:18,420
for those that asked me we we filed the

1899
01:23:22,910 --> 01:23:20,520
legal counter notification and we're

1900
01:23:25,010 --> 01:23:22,920
just waiting for the clock to run out on

1901
01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:25,020
him actually suing me in federal court

1902
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:26,940
to defend his copyright he's not going

1903
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,760
to do that and by the way the the uh I

1904
01:23:33,250 --> 01:23:31,199
think he got he got kicked out of his

1905
01:23:35,450 --> 01:23:33,260
house because he couldn't pay his rent

1906
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,460
well I guess I got nothing to worry

1907
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:37,440
about we got four days to go before the

1908
01:23:42,530 --> 01:23:40,440
deadline's over Tick Tock Nazi guy tick

1909
01:23:44,810 --> 01:23:42,540
tock four more days you know what's

1910
01:23:47,890 --> 01:23:44,820
hilarious I've won every single one of

1911
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:47,900
these Lou 17 yeah I've won six

1912
01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:51,199
false fair use strikes well what's funny

1913
01:23:57,890 --> 01:23:55,400
they didn't when I put the video up yeah

1914
01:24:01,610 --> 01:23:57,900
it's still up on Twitter but what they

1915
01:24:02,930 --> 01:24:01,620
did is they claimed that the video was

1916
01:24:06,530 --> 01:24:02,940
private

1917
01:24:09,410 --> 01:24:06,540
had no right to use it and I'm like oh

1918
01:24:11,149 --> 01:24:09,420
geez I pulled it publicly like I put the

1919
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:11,159
YouTube video for a public YouTube video

1920
01:24:16,130 --> 01:24:13,440
and I was like how did I get this if it

1921
01:24:18,050 --> 01:24:16,140
was so private but not only that go to

1922
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:18,060
bit shoot and I found the the same links

1923
01:24:21,169 --> 01:24:19,440
with the same interviews on bit shoot

1924
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:21,179
and I sent them the bit shoot links I

1925
01:24:24,229 --> 01:24:22,800
was like if it's so private why is it

1926
01:24:26,450 --> 01:24:24,239
public here

1927
01:24:28,370 --> 01:24:26,460
um so I'm waiting to hear back as well

1928
01:24:31,490 --> 01:24:28,380
um but yeah actually can we talk about

1929
01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:31,500
that the censorship problem there seems

1930
01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:33,000
to be this huge problem for those

1931
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:36,000
unaware that if you are critical of

1932
01:24:40,370 --> 01:24:38,460
someone even if you provide a great even

1933
01:24:42,050 --> 01:24:40,380
if you make a video and you provide all

1934
01:24:44,570 --> 01:24:42,060
kinds of evidence and things like that

1935
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:44,580
there seems to be this new I don't know

1936
01:24:50,330 --> 01:24:47,100
that it's new but these guys that you

1937
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:50,340
talk about fairly with and use a little

1938
01:24:56,990 --> 01:24:53,600
clip of them in fair use instead of

1939
01:24:58,970 --> 01:24:57,000
their copyright claiming people recently

1940
01:25:01,550 --> 01:24:58,980
a filmmaker made a whole documentary

1941
01:25:03,890 --> 01:25:01,560
about third phase of moon and they

1942
01:25:06,169 --> 01:25:03,900
copyright claimed it off of YouTube he's

1943
01:25:09,050 --> 01:25:06,179
very scared he didn't know what to do he

1944
01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:09,060
doesn't want to get sued so we put it up

1945
01:25:14,810 --> 01:25:11,760
on Odyssey in all platforms but this

1946
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,820
rush to just like let's threaten these

1947
01:25:19,070 --> 01:25:16,800
people copyright claim them to get it

1948
01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:19,080
taken off it's always so people don't

1949
01:25:24,649 --> 01:25:21,360
see criticism of them that's very wrong

1950
01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:24,659
you know no I've looked man it's you

1951
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:26,460
know I feel like eventually YouTube will

1952
01:25:29,930 --> 01:25:27,840
figure these things out it's it's

1953
01:25:33,649 --> 01:25:29,940
difficult you know because that I don't

1954
01:25:35,810 --> 01:25:33,659
think YouTube has uh a staff with uh

1955
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,820
that that equates to as many videos that

1956
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:37,199
they have that they have to review you

1957
01:25:40,189 --> 01:25:38,460
know and so they have to build

1958
01:25:41,630 --> 01:25:40,199
algorithms to figure out whether or not

1959
01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:41,640
you know those things it's going to take

1960
01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:43,440
some time you know they're as far as I'm

1961
01:25:46,430 --> 01:25:44,880
concerned things like that are growing

1962
01:25:48,770 --> 01:25:46,440
pains they don't really piss me off just

1963
01:25:51,290 --> 01:25:48,780
as long as at the end of the day you if

1964
01:25:53,330 --> 01:25:51,300
if you're right and it is fair use that

1965
01:25:54,890 --> 01:25:53,340
YouTube goes okay you're good kid go for

1966
01:25:56,510 --> 01:25:54,900
it you know and and that happened to you

1967
01:25:59,090 --> 01:25:56,520
17 times it's happened to me a couple

1968
01:26:00,530 --> 01:25:59,100
times so I I've got faith in the process

1969
01:26:02,209 --> 01:26:00,540
but yeah it's frustrating because

1970
01:26:03,890 --> 01:26:02,219
anybody could just go to any video you

1971
01:26:06,050 --> 01:26:03,900
have be like it's cop copyright and then

1972
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:06,060
and then video like YouTube doesn't even

1973
01:26:09,410 --> 01:26:07,440
look at it they just take it off

1974
01:26:11,510 --> 01:26:09,420
immediately depending especially on what

1975
01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:11,520
the claim is it does piss me off from

1976
01:26:16,129 --> 01:26:14,280
just even a time stamp point because you

1977
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,139
know it's going to take me two hours or

1978
01:26:20,930 --> 01:26:18,480
an hour at least to file the paperwork

1979
01:26:23,450 --> 01:26:20,940
right and then you get to have this

1980
01:26:25,970 --> 01:26:23,460
10-day period full at least for me it's

1981
01:26:27,709 --> 01:26:25,980
always full of anxiety because I have to

1982
01:26:33,370 --> 01:26:27,719
wait as a process server going to show

1983
01:26:37,729 --> 01:26:36,110
yeah no if unless you do it like I'm

1984
01:26:39,470 --> 01:26:37,739
telling you right now

1985
01:26:41,810 --> 01:26:39,480
um I think the only person that maybe

1986
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,820
would have money to do anything remotely

1987
01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:43,440
close to that would be like a Brandon

1988
01:26:48,169 --> 01:26:45,960
fugle or maybe a Gary Nolan anything

1989
01:26:49,250 --> 01:26:48,179
outside of that [\h__\h] forget about it

1990
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:49,260
they're not going to come after you

1991
01:26:52,610 --> 01:26:50,639
they're just yeah well so there's just

1992
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,620
an annoyance to get a critical video of

1993
01:26:57,410 --> 01:26:54,960
them taken down no it's annoying it's

1994
01:26:59,570 --> 01:26:57,420
annoying it kind of shows their mindset

1995
01:27:00,890 --> 01:26:59,580
like oh I'll just get this video taken

1996
01:27:04,010 --> 01:27:00,900
down so people won't hear there's

1997
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:04,020
criticism of me just which is is bro you

1998
01:27:08,750 --> 01:27:06,000
know well that but you know the best

1999
01:27:12,290 --> 01:27:08,760
thing that Sean Cahill did was copyright

2000
01:27:13,790 --> 01:27:12,300
striking a thumbnail because that

2001
01:27:15,709 --> 01:27:13,800
immediately brought a whole bunch more

2002
01:27:16,990 --> 01:27:15,719
eyeballs

2003
01:27:19,310 --> 01:27:17,000
um

2004
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:19,320
when that happened that's my first

2005
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:22,080
thought I was jealous I was like on

2006
01:27:25,669 --> 01:27:24,000
Cahill the copyright claim me so I can

2007
01:27:29,090 --> 01:27:25,679
get some bump from him doing something

2008
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:29,100
when I when when I saw that when I saw

2009
01:27:36,110 --> 01:27:32,880
that I was like I was like how dumb can

2010
01:27:37,790 --> 01:27:36,120
you be like how [\h__\h] stupid can you

2011
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:37,800
be because you know my response is going

2012
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:40,080
to be like hey everybody Sean Cahill

2013
01:27:47,090 --> 01:27:42,719
just copyright strike my thumbnail like

2014
01:27:49,330 --> 01:27:47,100
like really a real image of a public a

2015
01:27:52,610 --> 01:27:49,340
Public Image

2016
01:27:54,530 --> 01:27:52,620
five websites you know that he and by

2017
01:27:56,209 --> 01:27:54,540
the way I won the copyright claim so

2018
01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:56,219
thank you and I ended up ended up

2019
01:28:00,169 --> 01:27:58,800
putting I don't know I don't know if

2020
01:28:01,490 --> 01:28:00,179
you're Christian or Catholic but every

2021
01:28:03,169 --> 01:28:01,500
time somebody does something like that

2022
01:28:05,870 --> 01:28:03,179
to me that I know is going to get me me

2023
01:28:07,850 --> 01:28:05,880
extra viewers and numbers I always do

2024
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:07,860
the same thing I say thank you God thank

2025
01:28:19,490 --> 01:28:16,250
yeah I just I laugh at the stupidity of

2026
01:28:21,950 --> 01:28:19,500
it yeah because it's it's like dude you

2027
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,960
like you guys are counterintelligence

2028
01:28:26,450 --> 01:28:23,760
guys yeah

2029
01:28:30,410 --> 01:28:26,460
don't realize like that's right for the

2030
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:30,420
government when you when Lou went after

2031
01:28:36,770 --> 01:28:34,320
the the area of the um the who's lewd

2032
01:28:39,470 --> 01:28:36,780
documentary I'm like bro you're publicly

2033
01:28:41,930 --> 01:28:39,480
ambassing of this is bringing more

2034
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:41,940
eyeballs to it because if you're pissed

2035
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:43,199
off people are gonna be like well [\h__\h] I

2036
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,639
wonder what's in that documentary that

2037
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:46,560
made them that mad you know I'm gonna go

2038
01:28:50,930 --> 01:28:48,000
watch it

2039
01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:50,940
um and so that's why I was yeah you

2040
01:28:54,770 --> 01:28:53,040
should cut a commercial for that just of

2041
01:28:58,129 --> 01:28:54,780
the of the [\h__\h] he said and the [\h__\h]

2042
01:28:59,570 --> 01:28:58,139
that he's you know no it's it's the it's

2043
01:29:01,729 --> 01:28:59,580
the best endorsement that you could

2044
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:01,739
possibly get and honestly I would have

2045
01:29:04,970 --> 01:29:03,600
taken a picture of off because when you

2046
01:29:07,129 --> 01:29:04,980
get a copyright strike you know this

2047
01:29:10,970 --> 01:29:07,139
Stephen it tells you who put the strike

2048
01:29:12,830 --> 01:29:10,980
on you know so uh like take a picture of

2049
01:29:15,470 --> 01:29:12,840
that man that's that's that those are

2050
01:29:17,330 --> 01:29:15,480
bullets for the gun dude like and the

2051
01:29:20,570 --> 01:29:17,340
part that shocks me the part that

2052
01:29:23,689 --> 01:29:20,580
absolutely boggles my brain is that

2053
01:29:27,530 --> 01:29:23,699
these guys are veterans they went into

2054
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:27,540
the military to literally fight for our

2055
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:29,460
right to burn a flag

2056
01:29:34,430 --> 01:29:31,920
fight for a right to be a Nazi if we

2057
01:29:36,229 --> 01:29:34,440
want to be a Nazi in America fight for

2058
01:29:38,209 --> 01:29:36,239
our right to say and do whatever the

2059
01:29:41,510 --> 01:29:38,219
hell we want on our little soapbox when

2060
01:29:45,470 --> 01:29:41,520
and wherever we want so and also

2061
01:29:49,129 --> 01:29:45,480
especially for Lou you're Cuban dude

2062
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:49,139
like the Castro regime what they did to

2063
01:29:54,890 --> 01:29:52,320
our family members in silencing media

2064
01:29:58,010 --> 01:29:54,900
silencing political uh adversaries

2065
01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,020
silencing anybody that had any sign of

2066
01:30:04,129 --> 01:30:00,560
100 yeah

2067
01:30:06,649 --> 01:30:04,139
you think you think somebody like that

2068
01:30:09,350 --> 01:30:06,659
would be like hey man I don't like it

2069
01:30:10,970 --> 01:30:09,360
I think it's inaccurate but he's got the

2070
01:30:13,430 --> 01:30:10,980
right to make it

2071
01:30:16,490 --> 01:30:13,440
he's got the right I fought for that

2072
01:30:18,229 --> 01:30:16,500
right for him to do that movie

2073
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:18,239
it is

2074
01:30:23,149 --> 01:30:20,639
the philosophies that's why I call Sean

2075
01:30:28,189 --> 01:30:23,159
Cahill broken philosopher because he is

2076
01:30:31,689 --> 01:30:28,199
he's he's he's as as deep as a puddle

2077
01:30:34,669 --> 01:30:31,699
um like like it's just it's it's

2078
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:34,679
[\h__\h] it's [\h__\h]

2079
01:30:39,890 --> 01:30:38,400
um it's it goes against everything I

2080
01:30:43,970 --> 01:30:39,900
would think that somebody would

2081
01:30:53,050 --> 01:30:43,980
volunteer their life and a quarter of

2082
01:30:58,970 --> 01:30:56,030
it's the most Un-American thing for you

2083
01:31:01,310 --> 01:30:58,980
to say I'm gonna copyright strike your

2084
01:31:02,689 --> 01:31:01,320
freedom of speech and your right to to

2085
01:31:05,810 --> 01:31:02,699
fair use

2086
01:31:08,450 --> 01:31:05,820
it it and also just like

2087
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,460
yeah and by the way I I hate to keep I

2088
01:31:11,689 --> 01:31:10,320
hate to keep harping on that or you know

2089
01:31:14,689 --> 01:31:11,699
I don't really want to waste time on

2090
01:31:17,149 --> 01:31:14,699
them because it's not but this is uh

2091
01:31:19,970 --> 01:31:17,159
this is the copyright claim from Blake

2092
01:31:21,530 --> 01:31:19,980
cousins of yeah of uh third phase of

2093
01:31:23,390 --> 01:31:21,540
moon this video is no longer available

2094
01:31:25,070 --> 01:31:23,400
due to a copyright Claim by Blake

2095
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,080
cousins but here's where it gets worse

2096
01:31:30,110 --> 01:31:27,360
though uh and I want your opinion on

2097
01:31:32,930 --> 01:31:30,120
this their defense a lot of third phase

2098
01:31:34,850 --> 01:31:32,940
is defense for putting up things that

2099
01:31:37,970 --> 01:31:34,860
are known terrestrial objects like

2100
01:31:39,470 --> 01:31:37,980
Chinese lanterns space debris and all

2101
01:31:42,649 --> 01:31:39,480
this other stuff they have two defenses

2102
01:31:44,330 --> 01:31:42,659
the first is uh we don't have time to do

2103
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:44,340
intensive research even though a five

2104
01:31:48,530 --> 01:31:46,080
minute Google search will tell you

2105
01:31:51,290 --> 01:31:48,540
that's a rocket launch that's space

2106
01:31:54,410 --> 01:31:51,300
debris whatever and by the way we caught

2107
01:31:56,450 --> 01:31:54,420
them we caught them Dental rights taking

2108
01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:56,460
what they knew was a space debris video

2109
01:32:00,830 --> 01:31:57,840
putting it on their Channel and

2110
01:32:03,169 --> 01:32:00,840
pretending it was a UFO but their second

2111
01:32:06,010 --> 01:32:03,179
defense is we're just putting this out

2112
01:32:08,810 --> 01:32:06,020
there if you know what it is let us know

2113
01:32:11,450 --> 01:32:08,820
and then people take the clips of them

2114
01:32:14,209 --> 01:32:11,460
faking [\h__\h] explain how they faked it

2115
01:32:18,430 --> 01:32:14,219
and let them know what it is they

2116
01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:20,990
when I got to talk to Blake and he was

2117
01:32:25,490 --> 01:32:22,980
telling me you I should be careful with

2118
01:32:28,250 --> 01:32:25,500
the things I say I'm like me what about

2119
01:32:30,169 --> 01:32:28,260
you like you're a hoaxster man like

2120
01:32:32,330 --> 01:32:30,179
everything you guys have done has been

2121
01:32:36,050 --> 01:32:32,340
[\h__\h] like you're gonna sit here and

2122
01:32:37,610 --> 01:32:36,060
and chastise me on what truth is get go

2123
01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:37,620
kick rocks dude I don't have time for

2124
01:32:43,010 --> 01:32:39,600
you and I'll be honest the best thing

2125
01:32:45,770 --> 01:32:43,020
the best thing about that documentary

2126
01:32:48,110 --> 01:32:45,780
um with the with the examples of all

2127
01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:48,120
their fake [\h__\h] my favorite one

2128
01:32:51,050 --> 01:32:49,679
hands down and I think it should have

2129
01:32:55,010 --> 01:32:51,060
been the one that should have led the

2130
01:32:56,810 --> 01:32:55,020
documentary was that Filipino uh monster

2131
01:32:59,090 --> 01:32:56,820
where they pretended to be something

2132
01:33:00,649 --> 01:32:59,100
holy [\h__\h] yeah for those unaware they

2133
01:33:03,649 --> 01:33:00,659
pretended that they were in the

2134
01:33:06,410 --> 01:33:03,659
Philippines on location filming yeah and

2135
01:33:08,930 --> 01:33:06,420
interviewing people they put only Asian

2136
01:33:11,750 --> 01:33:08,940
looking people in the video and said it

2137
01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:11,760
was only four it was only two and our

2138
01:33:17,470 --> 01:33:13,980
and like and those are not hard to like

2139
01:33:20,390 --> 01:33:17,480
it's not hard to find a Pan Pacific

2140
01:33:22,250 --> 01:33:20,400
descents in Hawaii like you know what I

2141
01:33:24,110 --> 01:33:22,260
mean but the most the fact that they

2142
01:33:27,709 --> 01:33:24,120
would lie about the location that they

2143
01:33:30,110 --> 01:33:27,719
were filming it in dude and rich said oh

2144
01:33:32,330 --> 01:33:30,120
they admitted to that great then that

2145
01:33:35,270 --> 01:33:32,340
means they are admitted liars and also

2146
01:33:39,250 --> 01:33:35,280
oh uh somebody made them change the

2147
01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:39,260
location who made them it's their video

2148
01:33:45,229 --> 01:33:42,719
everybody this is the funniest the

2149
01:33:48,110 --> 01:33:45,239
funniest I I I had to stop the video

2150
01:33:49,790 --> 01:33:48,120
because I was laughing so hard when he

2151
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:49,800
first gets on the on the pickup truck

2152
01:33:55,490 --> 01:33:51,840
and he puts his bag and he's like we're

2153
01:33:57,890 --> 01:33:55,500
gradually you do Philippines yeah and

2154
01:33:59,750 --> 01:33:57,900
then and then the the truck drives by

2155
01:34:02,330 --> 01:33:59,760
this school bus that's been abandoned

2156
01:34:04,669 --> 01:34:02,340
and it's got like you know trees growing

2157
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:04,679
around and stuff and then the guy goes

2158
01:34:08,810 --> 01:34:06,480
to the Google image search of that

2159
01:34:10,330 --> 01:34:08,820
street in the exact same bus that's

2160
01:34:13,490 --> 01:34:10,340
sitting in Hawaii

2161
01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:13,500
inside there I was like dude this is

2162
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:17,040
brilliant so far like and then they have

2163
01:34:24,050 --> 01:34:20,880
the gumption and the temerity to turn

2164
01:34:26,270 --> 01:34:24,060
around and defend that

2165
01:34:28,490 --> 01:34:26,280
is here's where it becomes here's where

2166
01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:28,500
it becomes complicated well not

2167
01:34:34,129 --> 01:34:30,960
complicated but but like Rich first he

2168
01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:34,139
said they haven't hoaxed anything ever

2169
01:34:39,649 --> 01:34:36,960
then when evidence that they did then

2170
01:34:41,870 --> 01:34:39,659
then the new talking point was these

2171
01:34:44,570 --> 01:34:41,880
guys got to go back 10 11 years and in

2172
01:34:46,129 --> 01:34:44,580
and in his defense that time that they

2173
01:34:48,410 --> 01:34:46,139
stood there and lied and said they were

2174
01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:48,420
in the Philippines was a while ago it

2175
01:34:52,910 --> 01:34:49,860
was I don't know if it was eight it

2176
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:52,920
doesn't matter it doesn't matter

2177
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:55,920
how many points became five years they

2178
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:58,320
haven't faked anything in five years and

2179
01:35:04,129 --> 01:35:00,960
now Rich has moved the goal post again

2180
01:35:06,350 --> 01:35:04,139
and now says three years and this new

2181
01:35:08,110 --> 01:35:06,360
piece we have coming out this one I'm

2182
01:35:11,930 --> 01:35:08,120
editing it's going to be out this week

2183
01:35:13,850 --> 01:35:11,940
shows only stuff that they faked in the

2184
01:35:16,070 --> 01:35:13,860
last five years and the last three years

2185
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:16,080
so it's like why are you still defending

2186
01:35:20,450 --> 01:35:18,719
this garbage Peddlers you know can I can

2187
01:35:22,729 --> 01:35:20,460
I just say something I want to say

2188
01:35:24,830 --> 01:35:22,739
straighten the camera oh wait a minute

2189
01:35:28,010 --> 01:35:24,840
wait a minute here you go here you go if

2190
01:35:30,129 --> 01:35:28,020
you're watching rich geodarno and goofan

2191
01:35:32,709 --> 01:35:30,139
for good UFO information

2192
01:35:37,250 --> 01:35:32,719
do yourself the favor

2193
01:35:39,890 --> 01:35:37,260
and just walk off a cliff man like it's

2194
01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:39,900
a waste of your time it's a waste of

2195
01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:41,280
your time

2196
01:35:46,430 --> 01:35:44,639
um and Rich you're a scumbag

2197
01:35:48,830 --> 01:35:46,440
scumbag

2198
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:48,840
um I can't like I I think he'll always

2199
01:35:54,830 --> 01:35:51,600
have his core audience but like he's

2200
01:36:00,830 --> 01:35:54,840
losing it like it's it's going away and

2201
01:36:03,470 --> 01:36:00,840
and his excuses are so bad so bad so bad

2202
01:36:06,470 --> 01:36:03,480
um you are the Biggest Loser on UFO

2203
01:36:08,330 --> 01:36:06,480
anything anything you're you're just the

2204
01:36:10,970 --> 01:36:08,340
absolute worst

2205
01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:10,980
um and I cannot re I wouldn't wish you

2206
01:36:16,729 --> 01:36:13,920
upon my worst enemy

2207
01:36:19,250 --> 01:36:16,739
and that's it that's all I got stop

2208
01:36:25,070 --> 01:36:19,260
watching stop watching goof on stop

2209
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,510
but you know

2210
01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:31,610
I don't like this guy because

2211
01:36:35,570 --> 01:36:34,080
he's he's lied to people four or five

2212
01:36:38,750 --> 01:36:35,580
times now about why we stopped talking

2213
01:36:40,370 --> 01:36:38,760
we stopped talking because I had an

2214
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:40,380
argument with third phase Moon and said

2215
01:36:44,570 --> 01:36:42,960
they faked so many things then he lied

2216
01:36:47,270 --> 01:36:44,580
to his audience and said they never host

2217
01:36:49,250 --> 01:36:47,280
anything there's no evidence then he

2218
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,260
made a video of me claiming I have

2219
01:36:52,910 --> 01:36:51,360
pedophile friends and that may make me a

2220
01:36:55,850 --> 01:36:52,920
pedophile then he made a video making

2221
01:36:58,129 --> 01:36:55,860
fun of my paralyzed eye and he said he

2222
01:37:02,590 --> 01:36:58,139
keeps going with this and it's all to

2223
01:37:07,370 --> 01:37:05,930
they're frauds if you guys want to see a

2224
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:07,380
really funny clip there's an interview

2225
01:37:13,850 --> 01:37:10,080
on alien addicts Channel where where me

2226
01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:13,860
and Rich uh go Toe to Toe with him and

2227
01:37:17,810 --> 01:37:16,260
10 other friends but what was hilarious

2228
01:37:20,510 --> 01:37:17,820
is I called out

2229
01:37:23,209 --> 01:37:20,520
third phase of moon to his face

2230
01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:23,219
and the silent just look at Richard's

2231
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:25,199
face while I know I'm so glad you

2232
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:26,960
reminded me

2233
01:37:35,110 --> 01:37:33,229
I remember that I mean at one point I

2234
01:37:37,850 --> 01:37:35,120
think he even goes

2235
01:37:39,110 --> 01:37:37,860
like silent yeah let me make a good

2236
01:37:43,250 --> 01:37:39,120
point

2237
01:37:44,510 --> 01:37:43,260
um like dude it's it's it's wild so

2238
01:37:46,729 --> 01:37:44,520
that's why I was like you know for

2239
01:37:51,070 --> 01:37:46,739
especially for Goof on to demand truth

2240
01:37:55,610 --> 01:37:53,870
he keeps calling me a liar like and he

2241
01:37:57,950 --> 01:37:55,620
says there's no evidence that they hope

2242
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:57,960
even things I'm like are you [\h__\h] are

2243
01:38:03,290 --> 01:38:01,199
you serious he calls everybody he called

2244
01:38:04,850 --> 01:38:03,300
his mother a liar the other day on the

2245
01:38:08,090 --> 01:38:04,860
live stream like there's not a person

2246
01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,100
he's ever met that's not lied to him uh

2247
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:10,080
he's always the victim he's always in

2248
01:38:14,510 --> 01:38:12,360
the right he's never ever ever ever ever

2249
01:38:17,570 --> 01:38:14,520
ever wrong

2250
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,580
um but yeah you know like after he

2251
01:38:21,830 --> 01:38:18,960
called two separate people who were

2252
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,840
critical of third phase kind of files he

2253
01:38:25,610 --> 01:38:23,760
then made a video claiming that he did

2254
01:38:27,050 --> 01:38:25,620
nothing wrong like I don't even

2255
01:38:29,629 --> 01:38:27,060
understand how he doesn't understand

2256
01:38:31,310 --> 01:38:29,639
that you can't say things like that with

2257
01:38:34,250 --> 01:38:31,320
absolutely no EV like that's pretty

2258
01:38:36,169 --> 01:38:34,260
damaging thing to say you know he's and

2259
01:38:38,870 --> 01:38:36,179
then and then he tells people I started

2260
01:38:42,350 --> 01:38:38,880
this you call me a pedo on a live stream

2261
01:38:44,450 --> 01:38:42,360
dude like are you [\h__\h] really I

2262
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:44,460
started this and he's a piece of work

2263
01:38:47,629 --> 01:38:46,080
man he's a piece of work and and the

2264
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:47,639
part that kills me

2265
01:38:51,649 --> 01:38:49,440
um you know and I and I I really I

2266
01:38:54,050 --> 01:38:51,659
genuinely put out an olive branch to him

2267
01:38:56,810 --> 01:38:54,060
during that interview like I genuinely

2268
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:56,820
did and I had that edit of him being a

2269
01:39:02,030 --> 01:38:59,520
misogynistic pig in the I had it for

2270
01:39:04,850 --> 01:39:02,040
that show and I was gonna play it on the

2271
01:39:08,450 --> 01:39:04,860
show and I was gonna rip his ass apart

2272
01:39:09,530 --> 01:39:08,460
on that show and I decided not to I was

2273
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,540
like you know what it's good to have

2274
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:11,520
mercy it's good to have mercy say let's

2275
01:39:15,410 --> 01:39:13,440
take the higher Road let's let's see if

2276
01:39:18,169 --> 01:39:15,420
he takes me up on the offer to talk

2277
01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:18,179
about my edit in private I gave him the

2278
01:39:22,490 --> 01:39:20,159
opportunity to be like hey let's talk

2279
01:39:25,610 --> 01:39:22,500
about what you said in private and if

2280
01:39:28,729 --> 01:39:25,620
I'm wrong or if I'm overreacting then

2281
01:39:30,530 --> 01:39:28,739
I'll apologize but if you're wrong and

2282
01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:30,540
you're overreacting and the things that

2283
01:39:35,090 --> 01:39:32,880
you say about my friend you think are

2284
01:39:36,370 --> 01:39:35,100
acceptable

2285
01:39:39,470 --> 01:39:36,380
then

2286
01:39:41,450 --> 01:39:39,480
you should apologize you know so like

2287
01:39:44,450 --> 01:39:41,460
it's

2288
01:39:47,090 --> 01:39:44,460
um he's he is

2289
01:39:50,330 --> 01:39:47,100
he is the worst of the worst like I I

2290
01:39:52,370 --> 01:39:50,340
showed him mercy and he spat my face so

2291
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:52,380
I was like every time every time I get

2292
01:39:57,649 --> 01:39:55,199
over him being an [\h__\h] to me he does

2293
01:40:00,770 --> 01:39:57,659
something else like the latest one that

2294
01:40:02,930 --> 01:40:00,780
this one I love he tells everybody on

2295
01:40:05,030 --> 01:40:02,940
his show on a public live stream that

2296
01:40:07,850 --> 01:40:05,040
I'm begging everybody for super chats to

2297
01:40:10,129 --> 01:40:07,860
buy my son a PlayStation I saw that and

2298
01:40:12,950 --> 01:40:10,139
but he's so stupid what he doesn't know

2299
01:40:14,930 --> 01:40:12,960
is I oh I didn't beg for super chats for

2300
01:40:16,910 --> 01:40:14,940
gifts and that's I don't spend show

2301
01:40:19,310 --> 01:40:16,920
money on personal expenses but that's

2302
01:40:21,410 --> 01:40:19,320
besides the point what he doesn't know

2303
01:40:22,970 --> 01:40:21,420
is I mentioned it on my show and I just

2304
01:40:24,770 --> 01:40:22,980
talked about my son's asking for a

2305
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:24,780
Playstation some games that's crazy

2306
01:40:28,970 --> 01:40:26,639
that's like a thousand dollars another

2307
01:40:30,410 --> 01:40:28,980
controller you know these gifts are

2308
01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:30,420
getting so expensive or something like

2309
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:32,820
that that's all I said on the show we

2310
01:40:38,330 --> 01:40:35,040
were just talking and he doesn't know

2311
01:40:40,669 --> 01:40:38,340
that my wife had purchased the gift a

2312
01:40:42,410 --> 01:40:40,679
month before I even mentioned it on my

2313
01:40:44,270 --> 01:40:42,420
show and meanwhile he's telling people

2314
01:40:46,490 --> 01:40:44,280
I'm begging for Super Chat so I could

2315
01:40:48,590 --> 01:40:46,500
buy PlayStation that my wife already

2316
01:40:50,930 --> 01:40:48,600
purchased a month before it's so stupid

2317
01:40:53,330 --> 01:40:50,940
and and it's all just deflection to

2318
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:53,340
muddy the waters he goes after anybody

2319
01:40:58,129 --> 01:40:55,920
that talks about third phase CR he went

2320
01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,139
after this out there Channel guy so bad

2321
01:41:02,810 --> 01:41:00,719
calling him pedo call and all this other

2322
01:41:05,629 --> 01:41:02,820
stuff it's so wild too because all the

2323
01:41:06,709 --> 01:41:05,639
guy did was debunk third face videos and

2324
01:41:09,169 --> 01:41:06,719
show their face

2325
01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:09,179
dude but what's funny is like I've

2326
01:41:14,209 --> 01:41:10,800
watched the out there Channel I don't

2327
01:41:21,610 --> 01:41:14,219
know him when I sit when I say what I'm

2328
01:41:26,030 --> 01:41:24,169
maybe but we all are a little bit

2329
01:41:29,090 --> 01:41:26,040
especially if you're in this field but

2330
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:29,100
my my the thing what was funny is the

2331
01:41:33,950 --> 01:41:31,199
power structure like I would watch the

2332
01:41:36,649 --> 01:41:33,960
out there Channel and I literally would

2333
01:41:40,609 --> 01:41:36,659
be the only one in the Stream for an

2334
01:41:43,070 --> 01:41:40,619
hour yeah an hour and he like he does

2335
01:41:45,229 --> 01:41:43,080
nobody watches his show and they're a

2336
01:41:46,490 --> 01:41:45,239
multitude of reasons why and I don't

2337
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:46,500
want to get into that because it's not

2338
01:41:51,890 --> 01:41:49,440
about bashing him but for you as a

2339
01:41:54,050 --> 01:41:51,900
Channel with 8 000 subscribers to

2340
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:54,060
constantly attack the guy who's got two

2341
01:41:58,910 --> 01:41:56,159
people in his life because he said

2342
01:42:02,810 --> 01:41:58,920
something bad about you just like right

2343
01:42:04,910 --> 01:42:02,820
just like Sean Cahill you dummy you're

2344
01:42:07,250 --> 01:42:04,920
pointing people right to his channel

2345
01:42:11,209 --> 01:42:07,260
like you see those debunks of third

2346
01:42:15,229 --> 01:42:11,219
phase yeah just ignore it you [\h__\h] like

2347
01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:15,239
it's just so stupid the the well I will

2348
01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:17,400
say in his defense that if most of his

2349
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:19,199
show is about bust in third phase and

2350
01:42:23,330 --> 01:42:21,119
secure team and all these fakes and

2351
01:42:24,890 --> 01:42:23,340
remember he I I've gotten to know him a

2352
01:42:27,530 --> 01:42:24,900
little bit he's a computer science guy

2353
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,540
and his show is like watch as I do image

2354
01:42:31,609 --> 01:42:29,520
analysis and prove to you that this

2355
01:42:35,890 --> 01:42:31,619
video is fake not a lot of people want

2356
01:42:40,910 --> 01:42:38,689
guy he's one of the good guys again

2357
01:42:42,890 --> 01:42:40,920
again the the amount of people who watch

2358
01:42:44,689 --> 01:42:42,900
a show is not indicative of what kind of

2359
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:44,699
person he is yeah but the fact like that

2360
01:42:55,070 --> 01:42:52,790
it doesn't make any sense you know what

2361
01:42:58,850 --> 01:42:55,080
I mean and so that's that's my point

2362
01:43:01,490 --> 01:42:58,860
it's like why are you punching down you

2363
01:43:03,290 --> 01:43:01,500
know and that's like that's Jay-Z's like

2364
01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:03,300
whole Mantra it's like bro I never

2365
01:43:08,090 --> 01:43:05,699
punched down like anytime there's a rap

2366
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:08,100
beef and some wrapper from wherever the

2367
01:43:12,410 --> 01:43:09,199
hell he is

2368
01:43:16,010 --> 01:43:12,420
crazy shut up yeah well it's not even

2369
01:43:19,850 --> 01:43:16,020
some I don't acknowledge you like like

2370
01:43:22,970 --> 01:43:19,860
you don't exist in my world guy like and

2371
01:43:25,129 --> 01:43:22,980
so I think it's like I don't understand

2372
01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:25,139
like it's the same with Lou like why are

2373
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:28,080
you punching down like in the grand

2374
01:43:34,330 --> 01:43:31,440
scheme of things the 13 000 subscribers

2375
01:43:39,229 --> 01:43:34,340
I have is

2376
01:43:41,570 --> 01:43:39,239
so insignificant to the entire world and

2377
01:43:45,109 --> 01:43:41,580
the conversations that are going on like

2378
01:43:48,590 --> 01:43:45,119
I have no influence I've got nobody's

2379
01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:48,600
listening like you know outside of the

2380
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:52,080
core folks that love my show like this

2381
01:43:58,310 --> 01:43:55,440
is not going on Fox News my breakdown of

2382
01:43:59,229 --> 01:43:58,320
what Lou Elizondo did to my channel you

2383
01:44:03,050 --> 01:43:59,239
know like

2384
01:44:06,010 --> 01:44:03,060
like so every time you attack us

2385
01:44:09,229 --> 01:44:06,020
you just in my opinion you make us look

2386
01:44:11,330 --> 01:44:09,239
better because you're you're the big

2387
01:44:13,310 --> 01:44:11,340
you're the guy with I don't know how

2388
01:44:14,830 --> 01:44:13,320
many subscribers Lou has on Twitter but

2389
01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:14,840
it's like

2390
01:44:19,970 --> 01:44:17,520
infinitely more influenced infinitely

2391
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:19,980
more status than what I have so it's

2392
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:22,080
like bro you know it's the same thing

2393
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:24,480
with the Mani film like it's like your

2394
01:44:28,729 --> 01:44:27,119
status is so much higher why are you

2395
01:44:32,450 --> 01:44:28,739
gonna acknowledge something that doesn't

2396
01:44:35,570 --> 01:44:32,460
even it's like it

2397
01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:35,580
it's like it's like an ant trying to

2398
01:44:40,970 --> 01:44:37,920
pick a fight with the sun it's like why

2399
01:44:42,830 --> 01:44:40,980
800 000 subscribers and they're telling

2400
01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:42,840
everybody I'm a liar and all this stuff

2401
01:44:49,430 --> 01:44:46,080
like okay like we've got evidence and

2402
01:44:53,709 --> 01:44:49,440
facts and things you know like well 800

2403
01:44:56,270 --> 01:44:53,719
000 subscribers that nobody watches yeah

2404
01:44:58,010 --> 01:44:56,280
it doesn't match it doesn't match up

2405
01:45:00,310 --> 01:44:58,020
because everybody knows they're full of

2406
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:00,320
[\h__\h] they're Liars

2407
01:45:04,850 --> 01:45:02,639
everybody's caught on to the and not

2408
01:45:05,570 --> 01:45:04,860
only that but like

2409
01:45:09,350 --> 01:45:05,580
um

2410
01:45:11,090 --> 01:45:09,360
the special effects that they use are so

2411
01:45:14,450 --> 01:45:11,100
bad like they're so obvious I remember

2412
01:45:16,129 --> 01:45:14,460
even in in the early 2000s or mid-2000s

2413
01:45:17,629 --> 01:45:16,139
when they were becoming a big thing and

2414
01:45:20,090 --> 01:45:17,639
I would sit there and they were like the

2415
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,100
only UFO thing and I'd be like

2416
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:22,320
you know I like at first when I see this

2417
01:45:26,570 --> 01:45:25,199
like the the first the first videos they

2418
01:45:28,189 --> 01:45:26,580
would come out would be these points of

2419
01:45:30,109 --> 01:45:28,199
light that were in a triangle and they

2420
01:45:32,810 --> 01:45:30,119
would move like this right they would

2421
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:32,820
all succinctly move together across the

2422
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,560
sky and I was like wow that's amazing

2423
01:45:38,990 --> 01:45:36,560
and then you'd get a second video with

2424
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:39,000
eerily the same kind of movement and

2425
01:45:42,830 --> 01:45:40,560
definitely the same way so you're like

2426
01:45:45,050 --> 01:45:42,840
wow man this must be going on a lot then

2427
01:45:47,090 --> 01:45:45,060
you get number three four five six seven

2428
01:45:49,370 --> 01:45:47,100
one thing I've noticed everything I

2429
01:45:51,169 --> 01:45:49,380
noticed is when they when they find

2430
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:51,179
something that works they keep doing it

2431
01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:54,000
they keep it they they hammer it they

2432
01:45:56,750 --> 01:45:55,500
hammer it but dude yeah it's all the

2433
01:45:59,930 --> 01:45:56,760
little things that you found in that

2434
01:46:02,870 --> 01:45:59,940
edit like his ponytail his red shirt and

2435
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:02,880
like I just like they're so stupid

2436
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:12,169
this first one was was put together by

2437
01:46:16,609 --> 01:46:14,820
sapiens culture he had been posting all

2438
01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:16,619
those things on Reddit for quite some

2439
01:46:20,810 --> 01:46:19,020
time and I've been talking to him and I

2440
01:46:22,970 --> 01:46:20,820
said you should put it on on a video

2441
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:22,980
because it's easier to digest and you

2442
01:46:27,010 --> 01:46:25,199
know right and he did and he did I

2443
01:46:28,970 --> 01:46:27,020
thought he did a great job

2444
01:46:40,430 --> 01:46:28,980
I wish

2445
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:40,440
to be and and if he's listening

2446
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:42,960
please give me the rough cut before you

2447
01:46:47,090 --> 01:46:45,119
put it out and and let me give you the

2448
01:46:49,070 --> 01:46:47,100
things that just are a little polish on

2449
01:46:51,350 --> 01:46:49,080
it because I was like this is actually

2450
01:46:53,149 --> 01:46:51,360
really good and if I only had one

2451
01:46:55,609 --> 01:46:53,159
complaint it's just like well he's

2452
01:46:57,050 --> 01:46:55,619
clearly not an editor and that's cool

2453
01:46:59,450 --> 01:46:57,060
um there there are ways he could have

2454
01:47:01,609 --> 01:46:59,460
made an hour and a half into I don't

2455
01:47:02,930 --> 01:47:01,619
know less than an hour and it would have

2456
01:47:05,930 --> 01:47:02,940
been a little quicker a little more in

2457
01:47:08,030 --> 01:47:05,940
your face no face other than other than

2458
01:47:10,430 --> 01:47:08,040
that dude but I think it was great it

2459
01:47:13,010 --> 01:47:10,440
was such a beautiful it was such a

2460
01:47:18,050 --> 01:47:13,020
beautiful timeline and collection yeah

2461
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:18,060
dude it was amazing amazing work

2462
01:47:22,370 --> 01:47:20,880
um so hats off really really great you

2463
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:22,380
know what else I think was the funniest

2464
01:47:27,169 --> 01:47:24,960
part of that whole thing is that rich is

2465
01:47:29,090 --> 01:47:27,179
defending against that and saying that

2466
01:47:31,390 --> 01:47:29,100
it's all lies and all this stuff or

2467
01:47:36,050 --> 01:47:31,400
stuff they did in the past

2468
01:47:38,030 --> 01:47:36,060
four times four times four times on his

2469
01:47:40,609 --> 01:47:38,040
show twice on his show and twice on

2470
01:47:42,770 --> 01:47:40,619
alien attic show well I didn't watch it

2471
01:47:45,350 --> 01:47:42,780
well then why are you talking about it

2472
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:45,360
you dummy why are you defending you're

2473
01:47:48,709 --> 01:47:46,320
gonna get something you didn't even

2474
01:47:52,010 --> 01:47:48,719
watch you stop oh my God that's so

2475
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:52,020
stupid dude Here's the the little video

2476
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:54,000
I made of Nazi girl

2477
01:48:00,050 --> 01:47:57,360
he went on his show without watching the

2478
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:00,060
video and without researching her would

2479
01:48:09,649 --> 01:48:08,209
like it was clear as day and you could

2480
01:48:11,629 --> 01:48:09,659
tell he didn't watch the video he's

2481
01:48:15,410 --> 01:48:11,639
literally going he's watching the video

2482
01:48:17,930 --> 01:48:15,420
for the first time live on his show and

2483
01:48:21,770 --> 01:48:17,940
when she gets to the part of her talking

2484
01:48:24,970 --> 01:48:21,780
about Good Nazis yeah he goes he

2485
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:27,590
and then he shut the video off I was

2486
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:30,480
like holy [\h__\h] this [\h__\h] didn't even

2487
01:48:36,109 --> 01:48:33,600
watch it he didn't even and then and

2488
01:48:39,709 --> 01:48:36,119
then he doubles down it's still because

2489
01:48:42,770 --> 01:48:39,719
it beats me so much that he refuses to

2490
01:48:49,010 --> 01:48:42,780
look wrong so much that he defended a

2491
01:48:50,990 --> 01:48:49,020
Nazi sympathizer like oh my god dude in

2492
01:48:52,550 --> 01:48:51,000
my case he's going on all these shows

2493
01:48:54,649 --> 01:48:52,560
telling everybody how wrong a

2494
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:54,659
documentary is that he didn't even watch

2495
01:48:59,870 --> 01:48:57,840
and then he says and then and then he

2496
01:49:01,669 --> 01:48:59,880
goes oh I watched 20 minutes of it and

2497
01:49:03,950 --> 01:49:01,679
it's all stuff from 10 or 12 years ago

2498
01:49:07,669 --> 01:49:03,960
because it started with all this stuff

2499
01:49:10,250 --> 01:49:07,679
and then it gets up to modern 2020 2021

2500
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:10,260
so he looks like an idiot because he's

2501
01:49:14,990 --> 01:49:13,199
saying things that like you dummy it's

2502
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:15,000
in there we had to give him a tight

2503
01:49:19,010 --> 01:49:17,280
stamp we had to give him a time stamp

2504
01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:19,020
for the modern stuff and then he didn't

2505
01:49:24,229 --> 01:49:21,840
want to talk about it I'm gonna I'm

2506
01:49:27,050 --> 01:49:24,239
gonna reneg the little message I had

2507
01:49:28,729 --> 01:49:27,060
earlier and tell everybody tomorrow go

2508
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:28,739
watch goof on because if you want to see

2509
01:49:35,209 --> 01:49:32,960
somebody melt down he's gonna watch this

2510
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:35,219
like I feel like he's there right now

2511
01:49:42,169 --> 01:49:39,600
losing his [\h__\h] just brah he's trust me

2512
01:49:44,030 --> 01:49:42,179
tomorrow's show is maybe going to be the

2513
01:49:45,169 --> 01:49:44,040
most hilarious thing ever that he's ever

2514
01:49:48,109 --> 01:49:45,179
done

2515
01:49:49,729 --> 01:49:48,119
um like I was kind of thinking that the

2516
01:49:52,010 --> 01:49:49,739
most hilarious show was going to be to

2517
01:49:55,090 --> 01:49:52,020
watch him squirm after this next two and

2518
01:49:58,729 --> 01:49:55,100
a half hour documentary

2519
01:50:00,649 --> 01:49:58,739
three hour three years and five years uh

2520
01:50:02,570 --> 01:50:00,659
yeah he's not gonna squirm he's not

2521
01:50:05,149 --> 01:50:02,580
gonna watch him even that so many times

2522
01:50:07,250 --> 01:50:05,159
they didn't think anything in five years

2523
01:50:10,030 --> 01:50:07,260
uh they didn't fake anything in three

2524
01:50:13,850 --> 01:50:10,040
years they don't think anything

2525
01:50:15,709 --> 01:50:13,860
yeah he's dude he is well we we're

2526
01:50:17,570 --> 01:50:15,719
probably contributing to a meltdown of

2527
01:50:19,790 --> 01:50:17,580
his but I don't care oh I'm not a doubt

2528
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:19,800
I can't wait to see it I can't wait to

2529
01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:22,080
see it I love when he when he gets mad

2530
01:50:25,070 --> 01:50:23,760
at me it's the funniest thing in the

2531
01:50:30,250 --> 01:50:25,080
world

2532
01:50:35,870 --> 01:50:33,590
hi Bree he'll call us Liars or something

2533
01:50:37,490 --> 01:50:35,880
too though you know like he's gotta he's

2534
01:50:39,890 --> 01:50:37,500
got to put some something in the title

2535
01:50:42,410 --> 01:50:39,900
to make us the bad guy here yeah of

2536
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:42,420
course he's never wrong he's never ever

2537
01:50:46,450 --> 01:50:43,679
wrong

2538
01:50:49,550 --> 01:50:46,460
um but yeah so anyway

2539
01:50:51,050 --> 01:50:49,560
so how what listen everybody's asking me

2540
01:50:52,850 --> 01:50:51,060
what have you been doing during this

2541
01:50:54,649 --> 01:50:52,860
time off besides making these videos

2542
01:50:56,169 --> 01:50:54,659
that you made

2543
01:50:59,629 --> 01:50:56,179
um

2544
01:51:03,050 --> 01:50:59,639
I I I've played golf twice

2545
01:51:04,609 --> 01:51:03,060
um mostly I've been just um I started a

2546
01:51:06,050 --> 01:51:04,619
new job so I've really been sort of

2547
01:51:06,770 --> 01:51:06,060
focused on that

2548
01:51:09,890 --> 01:51:06,780
um

2549
01:51:11,870 --> 01:51:09,900
and uh booked a National Commercial I've

2550
01:51:13,550 --> 01:51:11,880
got my sketch show coming up this

2551
01:51:16,370 --> 01:51:13,560
Wednesday at the Upright Citizens

2552
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:16,380
Brigade in Los Angeles uh which is

2553
01:51:21,530 --> 01:51:17,760
probably

2554
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:21,540
it is the best comedy theater in La

2555
01:51:26,870 --> 01:51:24,080
um you know a lot of Saturday Night Live

2556
01:51:28,490 --> 01:51:26,880
Alum have gone through the UCB program

2557
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:28,500
so

2558
01:51:31,250 --> 01:51:30,239
um that was really great because I

2559
01:51:32,270 --> 01:51:31,260
didn't think I was going to have the

2560
01:51:34,490 --> 01:51:32,280
opportunity to do that because I

2561
01:51:36,649 --> 01:51:34,500
auditioned for it and right before covid

2562
01:51:38,689 --> 01:51:36,659
and then covet happened in all the

2563
01:51:40,970 --> 01:51:38,699
theaters were already closed

2564
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:40,980
um so I I was really bummed out about

2565
01:51:44,330 --> 01:51:42,960
that for two years but uh but yeah we've

2566
01:51:46,250 --> 01:51:44,340
got our first show on Wednesday so I've

2567
01:51:49,490 --> 01:51:46,260
been really focused on that and then

2568
01:51:50,990 --> 01:51:49,500
anytime between that you know wait a

2569
01:51:54,109 --> 01:51:51,000
minute just to be clear this is a

2570
01:51:56,030 --> 01:51:54,119
professional show and somebody said that

2571
01:51:59,090 --> 01:51:56,040
you don't do that or something I don't

2572
01:52:02,090 --> 01:51:59,100
know oh yeah go look at my go

2573
01:52:03,770 --> 01:52:02,100
go look at my IMDb and then and then

2574
01:52:07,010 --> 01:52:03,780
come back to me and tell me I'm not a

2575
01:52:09,890 --> 01:52:07,020
professional actor I dare you I dare you

2576
01:52:12,290 --> 01:52:09,900
um so well anybody at the moment that

2577
01:52:14,510 --> 01:52:12,300
you're paid Lou any time you're paid for

2578
01:52:16,609 --> 01:52:14,520
it you're a professional at it you're

2579
01:52:20,450 --> 01:52:16,619
like I was in some shitty indie films

2580
01:52:23,209 --> 01:52:20,460
but I got paid so yeah yeah I mean it's

2581
01:52:25,310 --> 01:52:23,219
it it's dude it's um

2582
01:52:27,649 --> 01:52:25,320
especially if you don't you know if you

2583
01:52:29,810 --> 01:52:27,659
don't grow up in a family of uh people

2584
01:52:31,669 --> 01:52:29,820
that come from the industry it's really

2585
01:52:35,149 --> 01:52:31,679
difficult to break in

2586
01:52:35,950 --> 01:52:35,159
um you got to be really

2587
01:52:39,169 --> 01:52:35,960
um

2588
01:52:41,570 --> 01:52:39,179
just Relentless Relentless and you got

2589
01:52:44,570 --> 01:52:41,580
to be able to hear the word know a lot

2590
01:52:47,930 --> 01:52:44,580
and just just put it behind you and keep

2591
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:47,940
going yeah tomorrow thanks for calling

2592
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:51,119
back yeah yeah yeah you know so like but

2593
01:52:54,830 --> 01:52:53,040
what was really funny is the second I

2594
01:52:55,970 --> 01:52:54,840
quit the show I started booking stuff

2595
01:52:56,890 --> 01:52:55,980
again

2596
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:56,900
um

2597
01:53:02,750 --> 01:52:59,760
right I've got time I mean I like a lot

2598
01:53:05,450 --> 01:53:02,760
of people don't know this man but oh

2599
01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:05,460
um I'd say at least once a month I would

2600
01:53:11,629 --> 01:53:08,159
get you know a network or television

2601
01:53:13,850 --> 01:53:11,639
script or a film script where it was you

2602
01:53:16,609 --> 01:53:13,860
know six seven eight pages long and I

2603
01:53:19,070 --> 01:53:16,619
had to memorize these scripts

2604
01:53:21,169 --> 01:53:19,080
um and also produce you know depending

2605
01:53:23,390 --> 01:53:21,179
on the time either five shows a week one

2606
01:53:24,890 --> 01:53:23,400
show a week or three shows a week

2607
01:53:26,750 --> 01:53:24,900
um you know we went we went through a

2608
01:53:28,010 --> 01:53:26,760
lot of different you know of those

2609
01:53:30,350 --> 01:53:28,020
transitions of how many shows we're

2610
01:53:33,709 --> 01:53:30,360
gonna do a week but like dude you know

2611
01:53:36,350 --> 01:53:33,719
like I I sacrificed my acting career for

2612
01:53:40,850 --> 01:53:36,360
this [\h__\h] you know for to help Lou

2613
01:53:43,490 --> 01:53:40,860
Elizondo like I I I I'm sure I did not

2614
01:53:45,290 --> 01:53:43,500
book a lot of the auditions I went on

2615
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:45,300
because I wasn't a hundred percent

2616
01:53:51,709 --> 01:53:48,480
focused on it because I was you know

2617
01:53:54,410 --> 01:53:51,719
doing this I was I was trying to provide

2618
01:53:57,890 --> 01:53:54,420
my audience was you know and I also I

2619
01:54:00,109 --> 01:53:57,900
wanted to do it like I'd love to do it

2620
01:54:01,609 --> 01:54:00,119
um so yeah I'm trying to get you know

2621
01:54:03,649 --> 01:54:01,619
it's just that here I'm trying to get

2622
01:54:05,390 --> 01:54:03,659
back to like let me have a good time

2623
01:54:07,010 --> 01:54:05,400
like tonight was good so thank you

2624
01:54:09,109 --> 01:54:07,020
because we laughed a lot and everything

2625
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:09,119
like this is when it's fun when you're

2626
01:54:13,250 --> 01:54:10,320
having the right time when you're

2627
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:13,260
laughing and you enjoy doing it but I I

2628
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:14,880
struggled with that myself too I'm like

2629
01:54:18,830 --> 01:54:16,800
four or five people ask me to do more

2630
01:54:21,229 --> 01:54:18,840
shows I'm like I'm doing four there's

2631
01:54:24,590 --> 01:54:21,239
not that much going on and like I have

2632
01:54:27,770 --> 01:54:24,600
other things yeah I I cut it back to two

2633
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:27,780
or three because I think one one show a

2634
01:54:32,990 --> 01:54:29,280
week is more than enough

2635
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:33,000
get everything you need to get set out

2636
01:54:37,129 --> 01:54:35,040
like you can you can break down the

2637
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:37,139
whole week I did it in a two-hour show I

2638
01:54:40,129 --> 01:54:38,400
mean there were some shows where like

2639
01:54:42,169 --> 01:54:40,139
[\h__\h] I wish we had another hour you know

2640
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,179
but hey look if you could leave the

2641
01:54:46,970 --> 01:54:44,400
audience for anymore next week yeah yeah

2642
01:54:48,350 --> 01:54:46,980
well and usually you you don't even you

2643
01:54:50,270 --> 01:54:48,360
just move past it because there's new

2644
01:54:52,850 --> 01:54:50,280
stuff next week there's new stuff to

2645
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:52,860
talk about you know so if you leave it's

2646
01:54:57,169 --> 01:54:55,260
better to leave yourself and the

2647
01:54:59,090 --> 01:54:57,179
audience wanting more than to try and

2648
01:55:01,490 --> 01:54:59,100
like you know

2649
01:55:03,109 --> 01:55:01,500
at least for me I like I never liked

2650
01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:03,119
doing four hour shows it's just like

2651
01:55:06,890 --> 01:55:05,280
it's too much dude nobody's watching a

2652
01:55:09,229 --> 01:55:06,900
four-hour show

2653
01:55:11,090 --> 01:55:09,239
um no I agree with you I I really agree

2654
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:11,100
with that always leave them wanting more

2655
01:55:14,990 --> 01:55:13,679
because you're welcome they're gonna get

2656
01:55:17,810 --> 01:55:15,000
sick of you and they don't want to see

2657
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:17,820
you again you know yeah so yeah and also

2658
01:55:22,729 --> 01:55:19,440
like like I don't want to do more than

2659
01:55:24,649 --> 01:55:22,739
than will be supported either like some

2660
01:55:26,510 --> 01:55:24,659
people don't understand this but but you

2661
01:55:28,609 --> 01:55:26,520
know there was a point where I was

2662
01:55:33,290 --> 01:55:28,619
getting 500 views of video no matter

2663
01:55:35,810 --> 01:55:33,300
what I did so so I could do one show or

2664
01:55:37,550 --> 01:55:35,820
or you know I mean when I was doing one

2665
01:55:39,290 --> 01:55:37,560
show a week all the views would come in

2666
01:55:41,510 --> 01:55:39,300
that one week and the same amount of

2667
01:55:44,149 --> 01:55:41,520
views I would get for doing five shows

2668
01:55:46,250 --> 01:55:44,159
five days a week it's just yeah it

2669
01:55:48,169 --> 01:55:46,260
didn't it didn't the math doesn't work

2670
01:55:49,970 --> 01:55:48,179
there sometimes you know yeah no it was

2671
01:55:53,209 --> 01:55:49,980
I was the same for us but also I was

2672
01:55:54,830 --> 01:55:53,219
just like I I I you know we were hitting

2673
01:55:56,510 --> 01:55:54,840
that wall just like [\h__\h] man like how

2674
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:56,520
much more can we talk about this and the

2675
01:56:00,530 --> 01:55:58,320
whole Lou thing and and all that stuff

2676
01:56:02,390 --> 01:56:00,540
and but not only that like I especially

2677
01:56:04,370 --> 01:56:02,400
when it comes to rather

2678
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:04,380
like rather did

2679
01:56:11,090 --> 01:56:08,760
almost from the big phone home one on he

2680
01:56:14,689 --> 01:56:11,100
was there every show

2681
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:14,699
every show and he didn't make any money

2682
01:56:17,930 --> 01:56:16,080
off this you know other than the

2683
01:56:20,090 --> 01:56:17,940
exposure that he got to his channel and

2684
01:56:23,149 --> 01:56:20,100
and stuff like that he he just enjoyed

2685
01:56:25,850 --> 01:56:23,159
doing it and I was trying to build the

2686
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,860
show to a point where I could start

2687
01:56:30,590 --> 01:56:28,320
paying rather like that was like goal

2688
01:56:32,209 --> 01:56:30,600
number one like I would love and here's

2689
01:56:34,970 --> 01:56:32,219
the thing about rather

2690
01:56:36,830 --> 01:56:34,980
he makes a lot of money he doesn't need

2691
01:56:38,750 --> 01:56:36,840
the money you know he's always told me

2692
01:56:40,490 --> 01:56:38,760
he's like dude I don't Commission of

2693
01:56:42,350 --> 01:56:40,500
that I don't care I'm like I know but

2694
01:56:44,270 --> 01:56:42,360
you know it's like you're putting in the

2695
01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:44,280
work you should you should reap these

2696
01:56:49,129 --> 01:56:46,260
rewards but at the same time like I

2697
01:56:51,590 --> 01:56:49,139
gotta pay my bills first you know like I

2698
01:56:53,870 --> 01:56:51,600
I I've gotta that's gotta get done first

2699
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:53,880
and you know I live in LA and it's

2700
01:56:57,410 --> 01:56:55,679
[\h__\h] expensive out here man like it's

2701
01:56:59,629 --> 01:56:57,420
really really good yeah I couldn't even

2702
01:57:01,430 --> 01:56:59,639
imagine my bills are high enough on the

2703
01:57:04,189 --> 01:57:01,440
East Coast all my friends on the west

2704
01:57:05,870 --> 01:57:04,199
coast are like dude you have no idea

2705
01:57:08,209 --> 01:57:05,880
like I have a friend that's paying

2706
01:57:10,129 --> 01:57:08,219
something like I can't remember but it's

2707
01:57:11,930 --> 01:57:10,139
a couple thousand dollars for a tiny

2708
01:57:13,729 --> 01:57:11,940
little studio apartment it's like four

2709
01:57:16,129 --> 01:57:13,739
or five thousand dollars and it's like

2710
01:57:18,589 --> 01:57:16,139
one room apartment and like you know

2711
01:57:20,510 --> 01:57:18,599
that's crazy yeah you know it's

2712
01:57:22,490 --> 01:57:20,520
absolutely insane absolutely I wanted to

2713
01:57:24,770 --> 01:57:22,500
get back to the McGowan thing though

2714
01:57:26,689 --> 01:57:24,780
yeah and as everybody's asking me what

2715
01:57:28,970 --> 01:57:26,699
did you think of the Jeremy McGowan

2716
01:57:32,570 --> 01:57:28,980
Revelations and and Lou having super

2717
01:57:35,950 --> 01:57:32,580
powers and all this stuff and like

2718
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:35,960
um well here's here's uh let me uh man

2719
01:57:40,490 --> 01:57:38,880
McGowan uh McGowan was such a huge part

2720
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:40,500
of our show at the beginning and there's

2721
01:57:44,990 --> 01:57:43,440
man there's a really long story with

2722
01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:45,000
McGowan

2723
01:57:49,010 --> 01:57:47,520
um but eventually I like at the end of

2724
01:57:52,010 --> 01:57:49,020
all this I I called him up and I

2725
01:57:55,910 --> 01:57:52,020
apologize profusely to him

2726
01:57:59,330 --> 01:57:55,920
um because he he was warning me

2727
01:58:01,729 --> 01:57:59,340
over a year ago about all this stuff and

2728
01:58:05,089 --> 01:58:01,739
I was like I was like look maybe you're

2729
01:58:07,430 --> 01:58:05,099
right but the way you're doing it is

2730
01:58:10,310 --> 01:58:07,440
losing people and you're losing me like

2731
01:58:11,629 --> 01:58:10,320
I I just I don't see the things you're

2732
01:58:14,030 --> 01:58:11,639
saying

2733
01:58:15,950 --> 01:58:14,040
um and I haven't experienced any of the

2734
01:58:19,010 --> 01:58:15,960
things that you've experienced so it's

2735
01:58:21,169 --> 01:58:19,020
very difficult for me to just you know

2736
01:58:23,870 --> 01:58:21,179
take your side publicly in this I'm like

2737
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:23,880
I want to I I I know you're a good

2738
01:58:27,169 --> 01:58:25,679
person but like you understand the

2739
01:58:29,209 --> 01:58:27,179
position you're kind of putting me in

2740
01:58:31,010 --> 01:58:29,219
here and then of course he had some

2741
01:58:32,750 --> 01:58:31,020
public spats and and really when you

2742
01:58:34,669 --> 01:58:32,760
look when you when you've got the

2743
01:58:36,830 --> 01:58:34,679
retrospect of the last year and a half

2744
01:58:38,870 --> 01:58:36,840
to almost two years

2745
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:38,880
I look back at that time and I was like

2746
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,520
[\h__\h] he was he was just screaming at the

2747
01:58:47,149 --> 01:58:43,679
top of his lungs uh

2748
01:58:50,089 --> 01:58:47,159
because he was angry he was confused he

2749
01:58:53,209 --> 01:58:50,099
was he felt taken advantaged of

2750
01:58:55,310 --> 01:58:53,219
um and it wasn't until you know the

2751
01:58:58,669 --> 01:58:55,320
whole leaking of my private messages in

2752
01:59:00,890 --> 01:58:58,679
the Felon list where I was like oh [\h__\h]

2753
01:59:02,990 --> 01:59:00,900
I get it now I got a hundred percent

2754
01:59:05,390 --> 01:59:03,000
understand what he's saying

2755
01:59:08,209 --> 01:59:05,400
um and then him and I we've spoken a lot

2756
01:59:10,669 --> 01:59:08,219
since that and

2757
01:59:14,810 --> 01:59:10,679
um you know if there's any re if there's

2758
01:59:17,570 --> 01:59:14,820
one reason if I do continue with this

2759
01:59:18,729 --> 01:59:17,580
effort on whatever level I continue it

2760
01:59:25,390 --> 01:59:18,739
at

2761
01:59:26,990 --> 01:59:25,400
to

2762
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:27,000
justify

2763
01:59:32,990 --> 01:59:28,800
everything

2764
01:59:35,050 --> 01:59:33,000
that McGowan said and did

2765
01:59:35,060 --> 01:59:38,169
yeah

2766
01:59:43,310 --> 01:59:41,450
but just to answer the question it was

2767
01:59:45,589 --> 01:59:43,320
only 20 20 though so people can't blame

2768
01:59:47,330 --> 01:59:45,599
you for getting it wrong I mean and he

2769
01:59:50,810 --> 01:59:47,340
was not even though just having a

2770
01:59:53,390 --> 01:59:50,820
different opinion you know well

2771
01:59:55,609 --> 01:59:53,400
you know to Jeremy's credit he was

2772
01:59:57,770 --> 01:59:55,619
really understanding

2773
02:00:01,490 --> 01:59:57,780
when uh when I was like man I'm sorry

2774
02:00:03,470 --> 02:00:01,500
like I'm really sorry I I wish um

2775
02:00:05,330 --> 02:00:03,480
you know because we had we had some

2776
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:05,340
really deep conversations about this

2777
02:00:08,390 --> 02:00:06,960
whole thing a year and a half too I I

2778
02:00:11,450 --> 02:00:08,400
really like him I think he's one of the

2779
02:00:13,189 --> 02:00:11,460
good guys he is he is a good guy

2780
02:00:14,810 --> 02:00:13,199
um and I would just just to answer the

2781
02:00:16,790 --> 02:00:14,820
question about what do I think about his

2782
02:00:18,589 --> 02:00:16,800
his uh articles that he's written or

2783
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:18,599
blogs yeah because that's important if

2784
02:00:20,930 --> 02:00:20,159
people want to know your opinion

2785
02:00:24,950 --> 02:00:20,940
um

2786
02:00:28,250 --> 02:00:24,960
I think they are really spot on but what

2787
02:00:30,050 --> 02:00:28,260
I would tell people is if he puts it

2788
02:00:33,290 --> 02:00:30,060
I I can't remember because I don't have

2789
02:00:36,530 --> 02:00:33,300
the article in front of me but if he

2790
02:00:39,229 --> 02:00:36,540
is putting some he would quote things in

2791
02:00:41,270 --> 02:00:39,239
the article in either an italic or a

2792
02:00:43,609 --> 02:00:41,280
bold print or in quotes if it's in

2793
02:00:46,250 --> 02:00:43,619
quotes italics or bold

2794
02:00:49,790 --> 02:00:46,260
really pay attention to it because it's

2795
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:49,800
it's a direct thing he's not saying that

2796
02:00:53,870 --> 02:00:52,080
off of memory it's a direct quote that

2797
02:00:59,089 --> 02:00:53,880
he has

2798
02:01:01,609 --> 02:00:59,099
um I'm not going to go into any further

2799
02:01:04,310 --> 02:01:01,619
details because that's for him to

2800
02:01:07,310 --> 02:01:04,320
release at when he's convenient or when

2801
02:01:08,149 --> 02:01:07,320
he feels comfortable excuse me

2802
02:01:13,089 --> 02:01:08,159
um

2803
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:13,099
but if oh man yeah I'll tell you this

2804
02:01:16,970 --> 02:01:16,080
Jeremy McGowan is gonna have his day in

2805
02:01:19,910 --> 02:01:16,980
the Sun

2806
02:01:23,510 --> 02:01:19,920
without a doubt and I would really

2807
02:01:25,370 --> 02:01:23,520
really really pay attention and take uh

2808
02:01:28,129 --> 02:01:25,380
what he says in the consideration and

2809
02:01:30,649 --> 02:01:28,139
reread those articles or those blog

2810
02:01:32,510 --> 02:01:30,659
posts and really really dive deep and I

2811
02:01:36,890 --> 02:01:32,520
would also recommend people to go back

2812
02:01:39,830 --> 02:01:36,900
and watch my last show because I put a

2813
02:01:43,669 --> 02:01:39,840
lot of breadcrumbs especially when it

2814
02:01:49,010 --> 02:01:46,310
um I would if I were people in the

2815
02:01:51,649 --> 02:01:49,020
audience I would Google every single

2816
02:01:53,510 --> 02:01:51,659
name and do some research on every

2817
02:01:58,189 --> 02:01:53,520
single name on that thank you letter

2818
02:02:02,149 --> 02:01:58,199
that Sean Cahill wrote about skyford and

2819
02:02:05,510 --> 02:02:02,159
if you think the Felon accusations that

2820
02:02:08,810 --> 02:02:05,520
were being thrown at Nanny and that were

2821
02:02:11,570 --> 02:02:08,820
being thrown at Green Street and green

2822
02:02:13,629 --> 02:02:11,580
walled or whoever else he and by the way

2823
02:02:16,430 --> 02:02:13,639
people got confused

2824
02:02:18,770 --> 02:02:16,440
my name was was mentioned in that

2825
02:02:20,930 --> 02:02:18,780
exchange and people got confused and I

2826
02:02:23,030 --> 02:02:20,940
had to defend that I am not and I'll say

2827
02:02:24,530 --> 02:02:23,040
it again just for any confusion I am not

2828
02:02:27,649 --> 02:02:24,540
a convicted felon I have no criminal

2829
02:02:28,810 --> 02:02:27,659
convictions yeah but oh but even but

2830
02:02:30,890 --> 02:02:28,820
even

2831
02:02:33,290 --> 02:02:30,900
regardless of that according to him

2832
02:02:35,089 --> 02:02:33,300
you're mentally unstable and yeah I'm

2833
02:02:38,089 --> 02:02:35,099
one of the mentally unstable I guess

2834
02:02:41,089 --> 02:02:38,099
right yes you know so so like and and

2835
02:02:43,609 --> 02:02:41,099
you know again like

2836
02:02:45,290 --> 02:02:43,619
you don't expect your Heroes to talk

2837
02:02:47,450 --> 02:02:45,300
like that

2838
02:02:49,310 --> 02:02:47,460
um and and people were like criticizing

2839
02:02:50,629 --> 02:02:49,320
me well it's just a human moment he was

2840
02:02:52,910 --> 02:02:50,639
frustrated

2841
02:02:54,589 --> 02:02:52,920
sure you know I get that I understand

2842
02:02:56,750 --> 02:02:54,599
that 100

2843
02:02:59,930 --> 02:02:56,760
um and and I gave him the benefit of the

2844
02:03:02,629 --> 02:02:59,940
doubt on that but the second I saw his

2845
02:03:05,390 --> 02:03:02,639
true colors

2846
02:03:07,729 --> 02:03:05,400
um and what he did after Green Street

2847
02:03:09,950 --> 02:03:07,739
posted that clip of rather

2848
02:03:12,410 --> 02:03:09,960
that's when I started looking into that

2849
02:03:13,910 --> 02:03:12,420
what he sent me in that text I was like

2850
02:03:15,709 --> 02:03:13,920
well [\h__\h] now I'm gonna go back and

2851
02:03:18,890 --> 02:03:15,719
revisit this

2852
02:03:21,770 --> 02:03:18,900
um because I have to and and also it was

2853
02:03:24,109 --> 02:03:21,780
just eating at me it was really really

2854
02:03:26,330 --> 02:03:24,119
eating at me because John Greenwald

2855
02:03:28,970 --> 02:03:26,340
especially he's just helped so because

2856
02:03:30,890 --> 02:03:28,980
John greenroth wrote the templates for

2857
02:03:33,229 --> 02:03:30,900
the big phone home one and he also wrote

2858
02:03:35,689 --> 02:03:33,239
the templates for big phone home too by

2859
02:03:38,089 --> 02:03:35,699
the way you have mentioned I have so few

2860
02:03:40,310 --> 02:03:38,099
people on my good guy list and there's

2861
02:03:42,770 --> 02:03:40,320
another one he's just a good person he

2862
02:03:45,290 --> 02:03:42,780
tries his best he's facts he's evidence

2863
02:03:49,250 --> 02:03:45,300
you know he goes where the stories lead

2864
02:03:51,950 --> 02:03:49,260
him he's not tilted or like G you know I

2865
02:03:54,410 --> 02:03:51,960
I was surprised that they went after him

2866
02:03:58,010 --> 02:03:54,420
the way that they did because he's it's

2867
02:04:02,089 --> 02:03:58,020
just a not yeah you know or this is what

2868
02:04:03,589 --> 02:04:02,099
I will say me with my presentation and

2869
02:04:05,330 --> 02:04:03,599
attitude at the time yelling and

2870
02:04:07,430 --> 02:04:05,340
screaming about fraudsters and con

2871
02:04:09,470 --> 02:04:07,440
artists I could totally understand him

2872
02:04:11,689 --> 02:04:09,480
doing something like that to me but not

2873
02:04:14,030 --> 02:04:11,699
John Green Wilco he's like the Walter

2874
02:04:16,370 --> 02:04:14,040
cronka he's like he's like spinning he's

2875
02:04:18,890 --> 02:04:16,380
so calm and matter of fact and

2876
02:04:20,810 --> 02:04:18,900
respectful and respect insanely

2877
02:04:22,010 --> 02:04:20,820
respectful I mean if I only had one

2878
02:04:25,850 --> 02:04:22,020
critique

2879
02:04:28,689 --> 02:04:25,860
about John it would just be that I think

2880
02:04:31,189 --> 02:04:28,699
sometimes he

2881
02:04:33,530 --> 02:04:31,199
likes to keep the mystery of this

2882
02:04:35,450 --> 02:04:33,540
discussion alive

2883
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:35,460
um because hey the mystery of this is

2884
02:04:38,990 --> 02:04:37,920
good for views it's good for for

2885
02:04:39,850 --> 02:04:39,000
business

2886
02:04:43,189 --> 02:04:39,860
um

2887
02:04:46,250 --> 02:04:43,199
uh you know but at the same time I I

2888
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:46,260
it's minuscule compared to all of the

2889
02:04:51,290 --> 02:04:49,440
amazing work that he does the documents

2890
02:04:52,609 --> 02:04:51,300
that he pulls out the feet that he holds

2891
02:04:54,649 --> 02:04:52,619
to the fire

2892
02:04:58,189 --> 02:04:54,659
um the way he helped me when this whole

2893
02:05:01,729 --> 02:04:58,199
Louis zando private message thing leaked

2894
02:05:04,189 --> 02:05:01,739
um and and it was John who made me

2895
02:05:07,189 --> 02:05:04,199
realize that I got gas lit by Lou

2896
02:05:09,169 --> 02:05:07,199
Elizondo uh in real time and I was like

2897
02:05:12,109 --> 02:05:09,179
oh my God you're right wait a second

2898
02:05:14,689 --> 02:05:12,119
look at this text like really look at

2899
02:05:17,270 --> 02:05:14,699
the message and again like the the

2900
02:05:19,250 --> 02:05:17,280
biggest defense of that message was I

2901
02:05:21,050 --> 02:05:19,260
got the comma in the wrong place or I

2902
02:05:23,950 --> 02:05:21,060
misunderstood the comma and I'm like

2903
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:27,229
I misunderstood fine but then that makes

2904
02:05:32,629 --> 02:05:29,520
the list even worse that means that

2905
02:05:34,910 --> 02:05:32,639
there's five people who you didn't name

2906
02:05:37,370 --> 02:05:34,920
that are felons and then all of these

2907
02:05:39,470 --> 02:05:37,380
other people so that's 10 people you

2908
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:39,480
literally just doubled it because you

2909
02:05:45,350 --> 02:05:43,440
wanted to harp on a comma okay and then

2910
02:05:47,870 --> 02:05:45,360
when I showed John Greenwald he's like

2911
02:05:49,669 --> 02:05:47,880
no I took it the exact same way you did

2912
02:05:51,830 --> 02:05:49,679
I remember when I got the text I showed

2913
02:05:53,629 --> 02:05:51,840
my girlfriend I'm like how are you like

2914
02:05:56,149 --> 02:05:53,639
she's the only person that saw the

2915
02:05:59,030 --> 02:05:56,159
message outside of me uh before this

2916
02:06:02,149 --> 02:05:59,040
whole thing blew up nobody saw this

2917
02:06:04,669 --> 02:06:02,159
nobody saw this message uh until

2918
02:06:06,830 --> 02:06:04,679
essentially Lou Elizondo wrote us off

2919
02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:06,840
and told us to go kick rocks that's when

2920
02:06:12,290 --> 02:06:09,540
I started checking into it but when I

2921
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:12,300
got the message I was like I was like

2922
02:06:17,330 --> 02:06:15,119
calling John Green not a felon I read it

2923
02:06:20,450 --> 02:06:17,340
like 10 times and then I showed my

2924
02:06:23,209 --> 02:06:20,460
girlfriend and my girlfriend is a an

2925
02:06:26,089 --> 02:06:23,219
executive at a at a billion dollar

2926
02:06:29,270 --> 02:06:26,099
company she makes she literally last

2927
02:06:31,850 --> 02:06:29,280
year she made three four times what I

2928
02:06:33,589 --> 02:06:31,860
made four times what I made

2929
02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:33,599
um I got a wife like that you should

2930
02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:35,040
fight with that woman trust me you'll

2931
02:06:40,490 --> 02:06:37,380
have a good life

2932
02:06:43,310 --> 02:06:40,500
well beyond beyond that but she's also

2933
02:06:46,970 --> 02:06:43,320
really good at reading documents and and

2934
02:06:49,129 --> 02:06:46,980
getting like anything obviously she's a

2935
02:06:50,750 --> 02:06:49,139
smart lady yeah yeah no well anytime I'm

2936
02:06:52,070 --> 02:06:50,760
like hey babe am I reading this wrong

2937
02:06:53,629 --> 02:06:52,080
what do you get out of this and then

2938
02:06:55,250 --> 02:06:53,639
I'll let her read it and she and when

2939
02:06:58,189 --> 02:06:55,260
she read it she's like

2940
02:07:00,709 --> 02:06:58,199
is he calling John Greenwell a felon and

2941
02:07:02,270 --> 02:07:00,719
I'm like I think so like that's what I'm

2942
02:07:04,669 --> 02:07:02,280
getting right and I'm like I'm like

2943
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:04,679
there's no uh and when I looked at the

2944
02:07:07,910 --> 02:07:05,760
list

2945
02:07:10,270 --> 02:07:07,920
and I apologize for this you know it was

2946
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:10,280
a rush to judgment

2947
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:12,480
when I looked at the list I said to

2948
02:07:19,609 --> 02:07:16,800
myself okay John Greenwald no no [\h__\h]

2949
02:07:24,550 --> 02:07:19,619
way there's no way he's a felon and then

2950
02:07:29,209 --> 02:07:27,229
I don't know because I don't know Green

2951
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:29,219
Street that well

2952
02:07:31,609 --> 02:07:30,719
um and then I looked at who else was on

2953
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:31,619
the list

2954
02:07:36,410 --> 02:07:34,800
um Manny 503 and

2955
02:07:39,410 --> 02:07:36,420
um

2956
02:07:41,689 --> 02:07:39,420
it was oh and the cousins the the third

2957
02:07:43,790 --> 02:07:41,699
phase of men those were the five and so

2958
02:07:46,910 --> 02:07:43,800
and so when I looked at third phase I

2959
02:07:48,410 --> 02:07:46,920
could definitely believe those guys like

2960
02:07:50,030 --> 02:07:48,420
there's no doubt my mind and then I

2961
02:07:53,149 --> 02:07:50,040
looked at the rest of the list and again

2962
02:07:54,709 --> 02:07:53,159
like just basing my opinion off of what

2963
02:07:56,030 --> 02:07:54,719
I first saw I'm like yeah I could see

2964
02:07:58,189 --> 02:07:56,040
these other guys yeah they're a little

2965
02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:58,199
crazy you know like they're crazy like

2966
02:08:02,089 --> 02:08:00,239
I've watched their shows like they're

2967
02:08:03,830 --> 02:08:02,099
they're unhinged right and of course

2968
02:08:06,350 --> 02:08:03,840
I've changed my opinion on that and and

2969
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:06,360
I've you know again apologies for no no

2970
02:08:11,689 --> 02:08:09,119
that's fine actually well I I did I did

2971
02:08:15,290 --> 02:08:11,699
check in with the third phase of moon

2972
02:08:17,209 --> 02:08:15,300
and uh Rich from goof on both at least

2973
02:08:18,830 --> 02:08:17,219
claimed to me I didn't do thorough

2974
02:08:20,689 --> 02:08:18,840
checking that neither of them have

2975
02:08:22,250 --> 02:08:20,699
criminal convictions the cousins

2976
02:08:24,109 --> 02:08:22,260
brothers were rich just to be clear

2977
02:08:25,729 --> 02:08:24,119
because I don't want to help spread any

2978
02:08:29,089 --> 02:08:25,739
distance no and that's and that and

2979
02:08:31,129 --> 02:08:29,099
again I'm just I'm telling people what I

2980
02:08:32,930 --> 02:08:31,139
was thinking when I saw it yeah yeah

2981
02:08:35,030 --> 02:08:32,940
it's sort of my justification of going

2982
02:08:37,550 --> 02:08:35,040
okay [\h__\h] like because people also go

2983
02:08:38,990 --> 02:08:37,560
why didn't you just go to Lou I'm like

2984
02:08:41,390 --> 02:08:39,000
because he just told me to go [\h__\h]

2985
02:08:43,729 --> 02:08:41,400
myself like why would I go to Lou and

2986
02:08:46,550 --> 02:08:43,739
try to get clarification on something

2987
02:08:48,229 --> 02:08:46,560
like that like I'm gonna get lied to who

2988
02:08:50,270 --> 02:08:48,239
of course he's gonna say no that's not

2989
02:08:52,910 --> 02:08:50,280
what I meant I didn't want to hear that

2990
02:08:55,490 --> 02:08:52,920
I I wanted to go to the sources of the

2991
02:08:57,290 --> 02:08:55,500
people he was talking about and and I

2992
02:09:00,109 --> 02:08:57,300
straight up I just straight up asked

2993
02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:00,119
John like I was just like dude this is

2994
02:09:05,629 --> 02:09:02,639
I'm sorry I like I preface the question

2995
02:09:08,089 --> 02:09:05,639
with so many apologies and then I asked

2996
02:09:10,490 --> 02:09:08,099
him the question he's like Jesus no like

2997
02:09:14,330 --> 02:09:10,500
no and he told me straight up he's like

2998
02:09:15,530 --> 02:09:14,340
look Lou he's like uh uh if you want oh

2999
02:09:17,109 --> 02:09:15,540
yeah he was going to pay for a

3000
02:09:21,530 --> 02:09:17,119
background check

3001
02:09:23,330 --> 02:09:21,540
like John I don't need you to do that I

3002
02:09:25,790 --> 02:09:23,340
believe you I didn't believe this rumor

3003
02:09:27,050 --> 02:09:25,800
at all but I have to ask you because of

3004
02:09:30,490 --> 02:09:27,060
the person it's coming from and he's

3005
02:09:35,030 --> 02:09:33,109
you know like I was hesitant but at that

3006
02:09:39,050 --> 02:09:35,040
point I had to tell him I had to tell

3007
02:09:41,030 --> 02:09:39,060
him um and then yeah it would even

3008
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:41,040
spreading rumors about this no he

3009
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:42,719
doesn't have that background check in

3010
02:09:47,390 --> 02:09:45,360
his hand and he knows for a fact that

3011
02:09:50,390 --> 02:09:47,400
people are felons Stephen you know

3012
02:09:52,310 --> 02:09:50,400
that's crazy that he spread this I hope

3013
02:09:54,589 --> 02:09:52,320
and I can't wait

3014
02:09:56,990 --> 02:09:54,599
for John Greenwald to one day come out

3015
02:09:58,790 --> 02:09:57,000
with his side of his of this whole

3016
02:10:00,470 --> 02:09:58,800
debacle oh he'll do it he's so

3017
02:10:02,570 --> 02:10:00,480
methodical so it's gonna maybe in the

3018
02:10:04,609 --> 02:10:02,580
next six months yeah well there's a lot

3019
02:10:05,689 --> 02:10:04,619
of other things too but

3020
02:10:08,689 --> 02:10:05,699
um

3021
02:10:12,410 --> 02:10:08,699
but yeah dude it was like

3022
02:10:14,209 --> 02:10:12,420
I was flabbergasted I was flabbergasted

3023
02:10:16,370 --> 02:10:14,219
so like

3024
02:10:18,649 --> 02:10:16,380
that's why I did what I did and I don't

3025
02:10:21,830 --> 02:10:18,659
have any regrets about it at all and

3026
02:10:25,010 --> 02:10:21,840
anybody else and and again I did not

3027
02:10:27,470 --> 02:10:25,020
show I told John what was it I read it

3028
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:27,480
to him but I never shared a text message

3029
02:10:33,410 --> 02:10:30,239
with him the only time I started sharing

3030
02:10:35,890 --> 02:10:33,420
that message is when I saw that Rob

3031
02:10:39,530 --> 02:10:35,900
Heatherly on Twitter

3032
02:10:41,629 --> 02:10:39,540
clearly had the message clearly he saw

3033
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:41,639
the text because he was getting commas

3034
02:10:45,649 --> 02:10:43,679
and I was like when he when I saw it on

3035
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:45,659
Twitter I was like wow that looks pretty

3036
02:10:49,129 --> 02:10:47,520
much exactly the same and then I looked

3037
02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:49,139
at the message I'm like oh [\h__\h] he's got

3038
02:10:54,830 --> 02:10:51,599
the text okay well since you have the

3039
02:10:57,050 --> 02:10:54,840
text Rob release it because clearly you

3040
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:57,060
have it I said the pressure at that

3041
02:11:02,030 --> 02:10:59,040
point was off of me because the whole

3042
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:02,040
world was screaming at me you've got

3043
02:11:07,310 --> 02:11:04,800
this list you've got a list list I want

3044
02:11:10,330 --> 02:11:07,320
to see the list and I'm like I'm not I'm

3045
02:11:15,229 --> 02:11:12,770
turns out most of the people on the list

3046
02:11:19,310 --> 02:11:15,239
weren't felons yeah but not only that

3047
02:11:21,050 --> 02:11:19,320
but like I I was gonna hold I was never

3048
02:11:22,970 --> 02:11:21,060
gonna share that private message again

3049
02:11:24,830 --> 02:11:22,980
because of the state that I live in and

3050
02:11:27,169 --> 02:11:24,840
just the morality of it like it was a

3051
02:11:29,270 --> 02:11:27,179
private message it wasn't something that

3052
02:11:31,609 --> 02:11:29,280
I meant to get out in public on my live

3053
02:11:35,510 --> 02:11:31,619
stream but it ended up happening and so

3054
02:11:37,010 --> 02:11:35,520
even after that I was I was I was me and

3055
02:11:39,950 --> 02:11:37,020
my girlfriend after that episode we

3056
02:11:42,350 --> 02:11:39,960
drove down to San Diego and I was just

3057
02:11:43,330 --> 02:11:42,360
just the whole ride down trying to

3058
02:11:46,870 --> 02:11:43,340
figure out

3059
02:11:52,669 --> 02:11:46,880
how do I

3060
02:11:56,629 --> 02:11:52,679
tough spot if I release the message then

3061
02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:56,639
I'm Jeremy McGowan and I am um anybody

3062
02:12:00,770 --> 02:11:58,560
else who leaks private messages on

3063
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:00,780
Twitter like a like you know a coward or

3064
02:12:06,350 --> 02:12:04,560
or um somebody who's untrustworthy if I

3065
02:12:08,990 --> 02:12:06,360
don't read the message then everybody's

3066
02:12:11,209 --> 02:12:09,000
gonna just attack me forever about this

3067
02:12:13,250 --> 02:12:11,219
list of felons

3068
02:12:15,410 --> 02:12:13,260
um and I was like but I'm willing to eat

3069
02:12:16,910 --> 02:12:15,420
that [\h__\h] sandwich I'm willing to eat it

3070
02:12:19,310 --> 02:12:16,920
and so for the whole week and I just sat

3071
02:12:23,030 --> 02:12:19,320
and I stood on it I was like damn it

3072
02:12:25,850 --> 02:12:23,040
dude like I was like why am I why am I

3073
02:12:28,490 --> 02:12:25,860
the falling on this sword like I'm

3074
02:12:31,129 --> 02:12:28,500
falling on this sword for Lou Elizondo

3075
02:12:33,950 --> 02:12:31,139
and and I mean just I'm like why am I

3076
02:12:34,850 --> 02:12:33,960
doing this I was so pissed and then I

3077
02:12:36,410 --> 02:12:34,860
said

3078
02:12:38,870 --> 02:12:36,420
and then I came up with the solution

3079
02:12:41,450 --> 02:12:38,880
literally right before all of this

3080
02:12:44,030 --> 02:12:41,460
Twitter [\h__\h] happened I was like babe I

3081
02:12:46,010 --> 02:12:44,040
know exactly what I'm gonna do I was

3082
02:12:48,109 --> 02:12:46,020
going to come on that next week and I

3083
02:12:49,850 --> 02:12:48,119
was gonna basically say

3084
02:12:52,850 --> 02:12:49,860
the list is real

3085
02:12:55,069 --> 02:12:52,860
the message is real but it's not

3086
02:12:58,310 --> 02:12:55,079
incumbent upon me to release it it's

3087
02:13:01,010 --> 02:12:58,320
incumbent upon Lou Elizondo if luolisano

3088
02:13:03,169 --> 02:13:01,020
wants to release it then I give him my

3089
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:03,179
blessing he I was going to give him my

3090
02:13:08,510 --> 02:13:05,280
permission to release the message in

3091
02:13:10,010 --> 02:13:08,520
full context and that's what I was going

3092
02:13:12,290 --> 02:13:10,020
to do on the show but then when I saw

3093
02:13:15,050 --> 02:13:12,300
Rob Heatherly clearly had the message I

3094
02:13:18,109 --> 02:13:15,060
was like okay well it's public now

3095
02:13:20,270 --> 02:13:18,119
people know about it so now then I just

3096
02:13:22,310 --> 02:13:20,280
turned the pressure on the Rob and then

3097
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:22,320
I then that's when I started getting

3098
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:24,960
messages from Richard butt saying you

3099
02:13:30,169 --> 02:13:28,079
know demanding an apology for me in

3100
02:13:31,550 --> 02:13:30,179
exchange you know for not releasing the

3101
02:13:37,569 --> 02:13:31,560
message I'm like [\h__\h] you dude release

3102
02:13:44,450 --> 02:13:41,870
and and I labeled that as blackmail it's

3103
02:13:46,430 --> 02:13:44,460
really shitty terrible not very powerful

3104
02:13:50,030 --> 02:13:46,440
black male but it's blackmail

3105
02:13:52,209 --> 02:13:50,040
nonetheless the action of it is what it

3106
02:13:55,010 --> 02:13:52,219
should disturb people the idea that

3107
02:13:58,910 --> 02:13:55,020
louisando got his buddy to Blackmail me

3108
02:14:01,370 --> 02:13:58,920
to get an apology out of me is that

3109
02:14:03,350 --> 02:14:01,380
behavior that chain of events is so

3110
02:14:06,830 --> 02:14:03,360
disgusting it should make your skin

3111
02:14:08,990 --> 02:14:06,840
crawl but no no it's not that big a deal

3112
02:14:11,870 --> 02:14:09,000
it's not that big a deal that he had

3113
02:14:14,209 --> 02:14:11,880
sock puppet accounts and was yelling at

3114
02:14:15,890 --> 02:14:14,219
journalists and reporters and calling

3115
02:14:18,589 --> 02:14:15,900
them liars and calling their their

3116
02:14:22,250 --> 02:14:18,599
research [\h__\h] like it doesn't matter

3117
02:14:25,129 --> 02:14:22,260
that he he released messages to Rob

3118
02:14:26,270 --> 02:14:25,139
otherly and a guy named dick butt who

3119
02:14:28,129 --> 02:14:26,280
claims that he works for the

3120
02:14:30,830 --> 02:14:28,139
intelligence community and then now

3121
02:14:34,209 --> 02:14:30,840
they're using those messages to to give

3122
02:14:37,030 --> 02:14:34,219
to what they wanted was an apology

3123
02:14:44,390 --> 02:14:37,040
so that way

3124
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:44,400
they could say well look Lou apologized

3125
02:14:48,890 --> 02:14:46,800
for it he misunderstood so no big deal

3126
02:14:50,990 --> 02:14:48,900
everybody he misunderstood that's what

3127
02:14:52,729 --> 02:14:51,000
they were hoping I would do they were

3128
02:14:56,450 --> 02:14:52,739
hoping I would just fall on the sword

3129
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:56,460
and go yeah I misunderstood this was a

3130
02:15:01,310 --> 02:14:58,560
completely huge misunderstanding it was

3131
02:15:03,350 --> 02:15:01,320
my fault and okay everybody go back to

3132
02:15:05,450 --> 02:15:03,360
whatever it is you were doing and I was

3133
02:15:07,189 --> 02:15:05,460
like no I'm not gonna do that like I'm

3134
02:15:09,410 --> 02:15:07,199
not gonna do that

3135
02:15:11,930 --> 02:15:09,420
um and so that's you know

3136
02:15:14,450 --> 02:15:11,940
it's just these people who were like

3137
02:15:16,370 --> 02:15:14,460
that's not blackmail yes it [\h__\h] is

3138
02:15:20,089 --> 02:15:16,380
it is literally the definition of

3139
02:15:22,490 --> 02:15:20,099
blackmail is it like blackmail you know

3140
02:15:26,030 --> 02:15:22,500
is gonna make me you know like like

3141
02:15:28,910 --> 02:15:26,040
blackmail you know uh where it's like a

3142
02:15:31,250 --> 02:15:28,920
national embarrassment no like just

3143
02:15:35,689 --> 02:15:31,260
because it's shitty blackmail doesn't

3144
02:15:37,850 --> 02:15:35,699
justify your use for using the tactic

3145
02:15:42,050 --> 02:15:37,860
um so it's just

3146
02:15:44,089 --> 02:15:42,060
it's it's wild to me that UFO Joe's and

3147
02:15:47,810 --> 02:15:44,099
uh people with Anonymous Twitter

3148
02:15:50,030 --> 02:15:47,820
accounts who who oh like you know the

3149
02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:50,040
the Richard butts even the Rob

3150
02:15:56,149 --> 02:15:52,800
heatherley's and the Thomas Fesslers and

3151
02:15:59,089 --> 02:15:56,159
and the uh the Sean rashes and and the

3152
02:16:02,270 --> 02:15:59,099
Andy mcgrillins and the and the danzetta

3153
02:16:06,350 --> 02:16:02,280
strums and all of these guys who tow the

3154
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:06,360
line and play ball like I showed on my

3155
02:16:09,770 --> 02:16:07,440
show

3156
02:16:12,169 --> 02:16:09,780
I'm making twenty four thousand dollars

3157
02:16:14,390 --> 02:16:12,179
a year and that's nothing to sneeze at

3158
02:16:16,310 --> 02:16:14,400
incredibly grateful

3159
02:16:20,569 --> 02:16:16,320
um but if I played ball

3160
02:16:22,550 --> 02:16:20,579
and I didn't ask the questions I asked

3161
02:16:26,270 --> 02:16:22,560
uh throughout the two years of my show

3162
02:16:27,890 --> 02:16:26,280
if we didn't Grill John uh Ramirez the

3163
02:16:30,169 --> 02:16:27,900
way we grilled them if we didn't Grill

3164
02:16:32,929 --> 02:16:30,179
louisanda the way we've grown and and

3165
02:16:36,530 --> 02:16:32,939
honestly twice as much at least oh my

3166
02:16:40,429 --> 02:16:36,540
god well not twice as much I compared my

3167
02:16:43,490 --> 02:16:40,439
patreon numbers to that UFO podcast I

3168
02:16:45,889 --> 02:16:43,500
had 60 patreon subscribers which was 600

3169
02:16:48,770 --> 02:16:45,899
bucks a month so that's ten dollars a

3170
02:16:51,070 --> 02:16:48,780
piece right if you take my averages and

3171
02:16:54,169 --> 02:16:51,080
spread that on the

3172
02:16:57,709 --> 02:16:54,179
475 patreon members that that UFO

3173
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:57,719
podcast has that's almost 50 Grand just

3174
02:17:03,469 --> 02:17:00,719
in patreon doesn't include that doesn't

3175
02:17:07,490 --> 02:17:03,479
include access actually more okay and I

3176
02:17:10,429 --> 02:17:07,500
I honestly think he's making in the 125

3177
02:17:13,070 --> 02:17:10,439
000 range between the the advertisements

3178
02:17:15,349 --> 02:17:13,080
on the the podcast is infinitely bigger

3179
02:17:18,530 --> 02:17:15,359
than the YouTube channel yeah and I

3180
02:17:21,169 --> 02:17:18,540
hated to I hated to see that Kurt

3181
02:17:24,889 --> 02:17:21,179
jamuntle theories of everything had him

3182
02:17:26,629 --> 02:17:24,899
on right with Stephen Greer and it to me

3183
02:17:29,270 --> 02:17:26,639
it was like why do you need somebody

3184
02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:29,280
that is just a total believer and

3185
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,200
promotes all of this to interview a guy

3186
02:17:36,650 --> 02:17:33,840
who lies to his teeth constantly because

3187
02:17:38,209 --> 02:17:36,660
an old disclosure I was jealous I would

3188
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:38,219
have loved to have been in that second

3189
02:17:41,629 --> 02:17:39,120
seat

3190
02:17:44,030 --> 02:17:41,639
but I was I was told that my questions

3191
02:17:45,709 --> 02:17:44,040
were too accusatory so they didn't ask

3192
02:17:48,169 --> 02:17:45,719
not one of my questions that's wild

3193
02:17:49,849 --> 02:17:48,179
that's interesting because yeah I think

3194
02:17:51,530 --> 02:17:49,859
if Dan has nothing to do with that

3195
02:17:54,290 --> 02:17:51,540
interview those questions get asked

3196
02:17:57,049 --> 02:17:54,300
because here here's the thing about Kurt

3197
02:17:58,669 --> 02:17:57,059
is that he doesn't watch our shows like

3198
02:18:00,410 --> 02:17:58,679
he doesn't he doesn't want he doesn't

3199
02:18:02,389 --> 02:18:00,420
watch your show he doesn't really watch

3200
02:18:03,770 --> 02:18:02,399
my show or Andy's show I mean maybe

3201
02:18:05,570 --> 02:18:03,780
every once in a while he'll tune into

3202
02:18:07,790 --> 02:18:05,580
some of these things but he's not a

3203
02:18:11,570 --> 02:18:07,800
religious follower like Watcher of these

3204
02:18:17,810 --> 02:18:11,580
things so I I think just like a lot of

3205
02:18:22,429 --> 02:18:20,990
his betrayal for me was the straw that

3206
02:18:24,650 --> 02:18:22,439
broke the camel's back because that's

3207
02:18:26,570 --> 02:18:24,660
the guy where I was like I am giving him

3208
02:18:29,629 --> 02:18:26,580
the most benefit of the doubt because I

3209
02:18:31,730 --> 02:18:29,639
connected with him on a human level more

3210
02:18:34,250 --> 02:18:31,740
than anybody else over there overseas

3211
02:18:35,929 --> 02:18:34,260
like Dan zetterstrom we like especially

3212
02:18:38,629 --> 02:18:35,939
after the first big phone home and all

3213
02:18:39,950 --> 02:18:38,639
the help that he pumped into doing that

3214
02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:39,960
um and then

3215
02:18:44,990 --> 02:18:42,000
you know then big phone home to happen

3216
02:18:46,129 --> 02:18:45,000
and the support kind of tapered uh and

3217
02:18:48,110 --> 02:18:46,139
then there were other things that

3218
02:18:50,270 --> 02:18:48,120
mcgrillin was doing during my live

3219
02:18:52,370 --> 02:18:50,280
stream uh that he said he was going to

3220
02:18:54,349 --> 02:18:52,380
help promote that he hadn't promoted and

3221
02:18:58,009 --> 02:18:54,359
and so I yelled at him

3222
02:19:00,709 --> 02:18:58,019
um like I was just like you know when

3223
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:00,719
when his comments

3224
02:19:12,589 --> 02:19:09,889
it was some [\h__\h] but that was

3225
02:19:15,709 --> 02:19:12,599
literally the green light for every

3226
02:19:18,169 --> 02:19:15,719
single person to bash the big phone home

3227
02:19:20,570 --> 02:19:18,179
three and Bash what I was trying to do

3228
02:19:22,009 --> 02:19:20,580
and it validated for everybody that I

3229
02:19:23,389 --> 02:19:22,019
was only in it for the money and I'm

3230
02:19:25,549 --> 02:19:23,399
only in it for this and I'm only in it

3231
02:19:27,709 --> 02:19:25,559
for that I'm like guys like I dumped

3232
02:19:30,650 --> 02:19:27,719
especially the Bigfoot Home Three that

3233
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:30,660
was a lot of my effort because I had

3234
02:19:33,889 --> 02:19:32,880
already had the website built so I

3235
02:19:35,330 --> 02:19:33,899
didn't really have to worry about that

3236
02:19:38,589 --> 02:19:35,340
that just had to those are just simple

3237
02:19:42,049 --> 02:19:38,599
updates but getting the guests together

3238
02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:42,059
uh formulating the new templates

3239
02:19:46,969 --> 02:19:44,399
um you know all of that stuff I did all

3240
02:19:49,010 --> 02:19:46,979
I put easily 100 hours into big phone

3241
02:19:52,370 --> 02:19:49,020
home three and I think we ended up

3242
02:19:54,950 --> 02:19:52,380
making around 400

3243
02:19:57,170 --> 02:19:54,960
um from that whole stream it's just like

3244
02:19:59,690 --> 02:19:57,180
dude when you do the math like it's

3245
02:20:02,469 --> 02:19:59,700
trust me when I tell you yeah I lost

3246
02:20:08,030 --> 02:20:02,479
money like I lost money

3247
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:08,040
and it's just that so so going back to

3248
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,760
Kurt I can understand because look Danny

3249
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:13,439
Z has been helping him formulate

3250
02:20:18,349 --> 02:20:15,600
questions for a while now that's not

3251
02:20:21,710 --> 02:20:18,359
nothing new he's been doing that for a

3252
02:20:25,610 --> 02:20:21,720
while at least easily since last year

3253
02:20:27,950 --> 02:20:25,620
um and I think he got his claws in there

3254
02:20:31,690 --> 02:20:27,960
and then they got the the

3255
02:20:35,450 --> 02:20:31,700
um the the interview with Stephen Greer

3256
02:20:37,070 --> 02:20:35,460
and it was I guarantee you because I

3257
02:20:39,170 --> 02:20:37,080
also had a pretty damn tough question

3258
02:20:41,270 --> 02:20:39,180
for Greer and I'm pretty sure it didn't

3259
02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:41,280
get asked I got to go back and watch the

3260
02:20:46,490 --> 02:20:43,680
whole thing so I'm not 100 sure but

3261
02:20:49,730 --> 02:20:46,500
based off what I've seen that interview

3262
02:20:53,150 --> 02:20:49,740
was a softball interview it was just a

3263
02:20:55,309 --> 02:20:53,160
softball any of the other interviews I

3264
02:20:57,349 --> 02:20:55,319
thought for sure we were going to get at

3265
02:20:59,450 --> 02:20:57,359
least one more moment like we did with

3266
02:21:01,250 --> 02:20:59,460
Linda molnauer you just where you just

3267
02:21:03,050 --> 02:21:01,260
cornered the [\h__\h] and you let them

3268
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:03,060
you watch them squirm like it's it's

3269
02:21:08,929 --> 02:21:05,760
going to be a lot of fun and I think

3270
02:21:11,330 --> 02:21:08,939
that first offense he did ask them ask

3271
02:21:12,770 --> 02:21:11,340
him for proof and then Stephen Greer

3272
02:21:14,450 --> 02:21:12,780
just kind of backed him up and was like

3273
02:21:17,389 --> 02:21:14,460
well it's in the book it's on you know

3274
02:21:18,950 --> 02:21:17,399
yeah well of course it's in the book or

3275
02:21:21,650 --> 02:21:18,960
something right but I mean like I had

3276
02:21:24,050 --> 02:21:21,660
and the physics he just yeah he just

3277
02:21:27,050 --> 02:21:24,060
straight tried to Bluff a man who was

3278
02:21:29,150 --> 02:21:27,060
incredibly gifted in physics in in the

3279
02:21:31,190 --> 02:21:29,160
realm of physics and he just threw out a

3280
02:21:33,710 --> 02:21:31,200
bunch of like word salad you know the

3281
02:21:36,889 --> 02:21:33,720
quantum vacuum and the and the Zero

3282
02:21:39,469 --> 02:21:36,899
Point Energy and like I I I'm trying to

3283
02:21:41,270 --> 02:21:39,479
gonna I am reaching out to Kurt and I

3284
02:21:44,809 --> 02:21:41,280
just want him to do even if it's a

3285
02:21:47,809 --> 02:21:44,819
20-minute interview about the that

3286
02:21:50,530 --> 02:21:47,819
interview and what Stephen Greer told

3287
02:21:53,389 --> 02:21:50,540
him about the physics of free energy

3288
02:21:56,450 --> 02:21:53,399
it'll never it'll never happen because

3289
02:21:58,849 --> 02:21:56,460
Dan zetterstrom I guarantee you filtered

3290
02:22:02,750 --> 02:21:58,859
out every question that was even

3291
02:22:06,590 --> 02:22:02,760
remotely difficult to answer I promise

3292
02:22:09,410 --> 02:22:06,600
you that and and if if you send him a

3293
02:22:11,630 --> 02:22:09,420
request for an interview and Dan gets a

3294
02:22:13,070 --> 02:22:11,640
hold of that request or sniffs it he's

3295
02:22:14,990 --> 02:22:13,080
going to be the first person to tell

3296
02:22:17,870 --> 02:22:15,000
Kurt don't go on that guy's show don't

3297
02:22:19,969 --> 02:22:17,880
go on that guy's show even though he

3298
02:22:22,090 --> 02:22:19,979
provided one of the best questions that

3299
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:22,100
was ever asked on the show

3300
02:22:27,170 --> 02:22:24,960
okay though so I'm hoping I'm gonna I'm

3301
02:22:29,870 --> 02:22:27,180
gonna ask him Kurt is not the kind of

3302
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:29,880
guy like at least from what I gather

3303
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:31,680
um in the few interactions he's not

3304
02:22:36,830 --> 02:22:34,080
emotional he doesn't he doesn't react

3305
02:22:40,309 --> 02:22:36,840
it's very level yes very level-headed so

3306
02:22:42,469 --> 02:22:40,319
I think he's I think he's genuinely I

3307
02:22:44,389 --> 02:22:42,479
think he genuinely believes in Danny Z

3308
02:22:46,670 --> 02:22:44,399
just like I did and he's got every

3309
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,680
reason to because he probably hasn't

3310
02:22:50,870 --> 02:22:48,720
seen the things that I've seen and that

3311
02:22:53,570 --> 02:22:50,880
I know about those guys

3312
02:22:55,309 --> 02:22:53,580
um and um you know I know they're full

3313
02:22:58,730 --> 02:22:55,319
of [\h__\h] they're not in this for real

3314
02:23:01,610 --> 02:22:58,740
disclosure at all at all they do not

3315
02:23:04,130 --> 02:23:01,620
want real disclosure at all uh they say

3316
02:23:06,349 --> 02:23:04,140
they do but they don't do anything for

3317
02:23:10,090 --> 02:23:06,359
it especially not if it ends their

3318
02:23:15,469 --> 02:23:13,370
you know here's my theory I don't think

3319
02:23:17,090 --> 02:23:15,479
anybody's getting paychecks from that

3320
02:23:19,790 --> 02:23:17,100
show I think there's only one person

3321
02:23:23,210 --> 02:23:19,800
getting paid from that show and it's not

3322
02:23:24,530 --> 02:23:23,220
Dan zetterstrom I think Dan gets um I

3323
02:23:27,650 --> 02:23:24,540
think he makes his money from the art

3324
02:23:29,270 --> 02:23:27,660
that he makes and um uh you know I'm

3325
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:29,280
sure maybe a couple voters probably got

3326
02:23:36,469 --> 02:23:32,880
a real job but I don't think he's

3327
02:23:39,410 --> 02:23:36,479
getting his fair share of that of

3328
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:39,420
producing that UFO podcast I'd I'd

3329
02:23:44,690 --> 02:23:41,520
promise you he's not

3330
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:44,700
um and I mean that's just a theory I

3331
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:47,040
don't have any proof of that but I have

3332
02:23:54,290 --> 02:23:51,359
a feeling that uh that that

3333
02:23:57,110 --> 02:23:54,300
Andy mcgrillin keeps most if not all of

3334
02:24:00,410 --> 02:23:57,120
that income and trust me when I tell you

3335
02:24:02,750 --> 02:24:00,420
it's it's over 100k A Year Without its

3336
02:24:04,730 --> 02:24:02,760
out wow without a doubt

3337
02:24:07,309 --> 02:24:04,740
um you know I gotta stop hearing things

3338
02:24:09,070 --> 02:24:07,319
like that though because yeah I I listen

3339
02:24:11,510 --> 02:24:09,080
and I always have to preface and say

3340
02:24:14,150 --> 02:24:11,520
Here's the thing I have other streams of

3341
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:14,160
income so I'm not trying to make my show

3342
02:24:19,670 --> 02:24:17,040
my job here but when I hear what other

3343
02:24:21,130 --> 02:24:19,680
people get I get pissed off I go oh no

3344
02:24:25,610 --> 02:24:21,140
no

3345
02:24:28,130 --> 02:24:25,620
money that pisses me off because

3346
02:24:29,990 --> 02:24:28,140
everyone has a right to make it's what

3347
02:24:31,910 --> 02:24:30,000
they do for it too I love what they do

3348
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:31,920
to get there right yeah it's it's it's

3349
02:24:37,790 --> 02:24:34,800
the

3350
02:24:41,389 --> 02:24:37,800
especially with this topic

3351
02:24:43,550 --> 02:24:41,399
like and that's what I don't like if

3352
02:24:46,190 --> 02:24:43,560
you're dragging out the mystery just to

3353
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:46,200
keep it mysterious then you're doing the

3354
02:24:51,290 --> 02:24:48,240
discussion a disservice and if you're

3355
02:24:53,990 --> 02:24:51,300
not asking hard questions of the people

3356
02:24:56,510 --> 02:24:54,000
making extraordinary claims you're doing

3357
02:24:59,030 --> 02:24:56,520
a disservice to this discussion and I

3358
02:25:02,570 --> 02:24:59,040
hate to break it to everybody there's no

3359
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:02,580
nice way to ask a hard question I don't

3360
02:25:08,150 --> 02:25:05,280
care who you are it's always going to

3361
02:25:12,410 --> 02:25:08,160
come across as oh you're attacking me

3362
02:25:15,590 --> 02:25:12,420
and these shows especially that UFO

3363
02:25:17,510 --> 02:25:15,600
podcast are afraid they're cowards they

3364
02:25:18,889 --> 02:25:17,520
do not want to ask tough questions not

3365
02:25:20,929 --> 02:25:18,899
because they don't they're not they're

3366
02:25:22,670 --> 02:25:20,939
going to risk that income you know risk

3367
02:25:24,230 --> 02:25:22,680
the income of course they are of course

3368
02:25:26,809 --> 02:25:24,240
they're but it's like

3369
02:25:30,410 --> 02:25:26,819
so that's the problem they're protecting

3370
02:25:32,929 --> 02:25:30,420
a narrative that is [\h__\h] just to

3371
02:25:34,610 --> 02:25:32,939
protect their pocketbooks and that's

3372
02:25:36,590 --> 02:25:34,620
where it bothers me

3373
02:25:39,110 --> 02:25:36,600
um you know and so that's why I call

3374
02:25:41,450 --> 02:25:39,120
them out like I did because I'm like who

3375
02:25:43,490 --> 02:25:41,460
the hell are you guys to call me a

3376
02:25:45,230 --> 02:25:43,500
one-day activist who the hell are you

3377
02:25:47,570 --> 02:25:45,240
guys to tell me I'm in this for the

3378
02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:47,580
money when you guys put every single

3379
02:25:51,290 --> 02:25:49,439
show behind us and it takes three months

3380
02:25:52,910 --> 02:25:51,300
to go through that one three months of

3381
02:25:55,370 --> 02:25:52,920
work to go through that one day of

3382
02:25:58,429 --> 02:25:55,380
activism you dumb yes you know I mean

3383
02:26:00,590 --> 02:25:58,439
it's so dumb and and not only that but

3384
02:26:02,630 --> 02:26:00,600
I'm pretty sure

3385
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:02,640
um and correct me if I'm wrong Stephen

3386
02:26:08,210 --> 02:26:06,479
but I'm pretty sure uh what day was the

3387
02:26:10,969 --> 02:26:08,220
big phone home three whatever date it

3388
02:26:12,650 --> 02:26:10,979
was I think it was uh I can't even

3389
02:26:16,730 --> 02:26:12,660
remember dude what is it uh what what

3390
02:26:19,370 --> 02:26:16,740
month are we in uh so August August I

3391
02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:19,380
think it was August 13th

3392
02:26:23,690 --> 02:26:21,840
um last I checked

3393
02:26:26,870 --> 02:26:23,700
and again correct me if I'm wrong but

3394
02:26:30,969 --> 02:26:26,880
August 13th that counts is

3395
02:26:34,969 --> 02:26:30,979
part of the 365 days a year right yeah

3396
02:26:38,030 --> 02:26:34,979
am I am I missing something so like if

3397
02:26:39,590 --> 02:26:38,040
if you're 365 day year activist then you

3398
02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:39,600
should be promoting the [\h__\h] out of my

3399
02:26:45,710 --> 02:26:42,240
event or our event whatever you however

3400
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:45,720
you want to label it like it it's and if

3401
02:26:51,469 --> 02:26:49,200
anybody else did anything remotely close

3402
02:26:53,870 --> 02:26:51,479
to the big phone home I'd be the first

3403
02:26:56,870 --> 02:26:53,880
person to get up and support it

3404
02:26:59,690 --> 02:26:56,880
no matter who it was if goofan did it

3405
02:27:01,910 --> 02:26:59,700
I'd be like if assuming that you know

3406
02:27:05,270 --> 02:27:01,920
everything's done in a in a respectful

3407
02:27:07,370 --> 02:27:05,280
and responsible way I was no calling

3408
02:27:12,050 --> 02:27:07,380
people pedos or talking about people's

3409
02:27:14,450 --> 02:27:12,060
pets hey look I disagree with a lot of

3410
02:27:16,849 --> 02:27:14,460
what this guy does but here's where we

3411
02:27:19,190 --> 02:27:16,859
do agree here's where we do have common

3412
02:27:22,130 --> 02:27:19,200
ground and that's what I would highlight

3413
02:27:23,929 --> 02:27:22,140
if anybody else did an event like that

3414
02:27:27,170 --> 02:27:23,939
um but they don't because they don't

3415
02:27:29,450 --> 02:27:27,180
have the [\h__\h] work ethic to do it

3416
02:27:32,690 --> 02:27:29,460
they don't they just want to [\h__\h] and

3417
02:27:33,590 --> 02:27:32,700
complain about my event like it's like

3418
02:27:36,770 --> 02:27:33,600
dude

3419
02:27:38,570 --> 02:27:36,780
you guys suck like you guys you guys are

3420
02:27:40,849 --> 02:27:38,580
free to go do their own if they think

3421
02:27:43,010 --> 02:27:40,859
they can do a better job they can't do a

3422
02:27:45,290 --> 02:27:43,020
better job and I invited everybody to do

3423
02:27:47,330 --> 02:27:45,300
their own I was like take my idea do you

3424
02:27:49,730 --> 02:27:47,340
like go for it you know the more of

3425
02:27:52,130 --> 02:27:49,740
these we have the better like I don't I

3426
02:27:55,070 --> 02:27:52,140
don't care if you I was like dude use my

3427
02:27:56,150 --> 02:27:55,080
website like I don't give a [\h__\h] I don't

3428
02:27:56,929 --> 02:27:56,160
care

3429
02:28:00,010 --> 02:27:56,939
um

3430
02:28:03,469 --> 02:28:00,020
but that that

3431
02:28:05,690 --> 02:28:03,479
that was never reciprocated

3432
02:28:07,849 --> 02:28:05,700
um especially after big phone home one

3433
02:28:09,710 --> 02:28:07,859
that's where [\h__\h] really started like

3434
02:28:12,110 --> 02:28:09,720
after big phone home one and how

3435
02:28:14,270 --> 02:28:12,120
successful it was and and how positive

3436
02:28:17,870 --> 02:28:14,280
it was and how many people we got like I

3437
02:28:21,889 --> 02:28:17,880
got Jeremy Corbell and Jeremy Reese to

3438
02:28:24,170 --> 02:28:21,899
do a a show in the same you know time on

3439
02:28:26,630 --> 02:28:24,180
you know and on the same day with the

3440
02:28:28,910 --> 02:28:26,640
same person like it was it was crazy

3441
02:28:31,370 --> 02:28:28,920
behind the scenes what people were doing

3442
02:28:33,710 --> 02:28:31,380
and saying to me like it was insane to

3443
02:28:37,330 --> 02:28:33,720
to organize that first one but like you

3444
02:28:40,910 --> 02:28:37,340
know but then after all of the positives

3445
02:28:43,969 --> 02:28:40,920
monthly I would do it I would do it [\h__\h]

3446
02:28:45,130 --> 02:28:43,979
uh but you know who came on when we did

3447
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:45,140
it I

3448
02:28:50,870 --> 02:28:48,479
mean dude I did I did

3449
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:50,880
what was it one eight hour live stream

3450
02:28:56,270 --> 02:28:53,520
for part one and then I did three eight

3451
02:28:57,889 --> 02:28:56,280
hour live streams for part two and then

3452
02:29:02,030 --> 02:28:57,899
I did an eight hour live stream for

3453
02:29:04,630 --> 02:29:02,040
parts so that's 40 hours of just big

3454
02:29:08,030 --> 02:29:04,640
phone home live streams

3455
02:29:09,950 --> 02:29:08,040
just the live stream was 40 hours worth

3456
02:29:13,130 --> 02:29:09,960
of work that's crazy

3457
02:29:14,750 --> 02:29:13,140
um you know so imagine especially if you

3458
02:29:17,290 --> 02:29:14,760
know anything about production if it

3459
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:17,300
takes if you've got 40 hours of content

3460
02:29:23,150 --> 02:29:20,160
it probably took you a hundred and

3461
02:29:26,050 --> 02:29:23,160
twenty hours of organization that's very

3462
02:29:28,670 --> 02:29:26,060
fair and and that and and that's being

3463
02:29:31,070 --> 02:29:28,680
conservative you know like that's being

3464
02:29:33,290 --> 02:29:31,080
think about it forever like let's say

3465
02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:33,300
you have a guest and that guest is on in

3466
02:29:36,110 --> 02:29:34,560
that hour but you didn't do it you

3467
02:29:39,730 --> 02:29:36,120
probably had like two guests an hour or

3468
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:39,740
something I had and but the point is is

3469
02:29:45,050 --> 02:29:42,479
you have to write the questions you have

3470
02:29:47,690 --> 02:29:45,060
to make show notes you have to have

3471
02:29:49,730 --> 02:29:47,700
thumbnails or pictures of the guests to

3472
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:49,740
promote their appearance on the thing so

3473
02:29:53,450 --> 02:29:51,359
three hours forget about hours forget

3474
02:29:57,050 --> 02:29:53,460
about it more than that yeah imagine

3475
02:29:59,450 --> 02:29:57,060
being trying to be entertaining yeah for

3476
02:30:01,190 --> 02:29:59,460
that many hours all right like it's

3477
02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:01,200
exhausting

3478
02:30:06,469 --> 02:30:04,080
um and I thought I I honestly I couldn't

3479
02:30:07,969 --> 02:30:06,479
after are in the bit I could have done

3480
02:30:12,670 --> 02:30:07,979
another eight hours on the first big

3481
02:30:17,270 --> 02:30:15,950
oh my God no I'm cranked out I was wiped

3482
02:30:21,469 --> 02:30:17,280
out the next day

3483
02:30:24,770 --> 02:30:21,479
um but yeah man it's it's absurd it's

3484
02:30:28,130 --> 02:30:24,780
absurd that anybody anybody would call

3485
02:30:33,530 --> 02:30:28,140
me a traitor a backstabber a liar uh a

3486
02:30:37,130 --> 02:30:33,540
drama starter if they knew even remotely

3487
02:30:39,770 --> 02:30:37,140
how much work I put into all of this

3488
02:30:43,010 --> 02:30:39,780
um I I I would hope they wouldn't call

3489
02:30:46,370 --> 02:30:43,020
me that but of course this is uh this is

3490
02:30:48,830 --> 02:30:46,380
UFO Twitter Community it's just an

3491
02:30:50,990 --> 02:30:48,840
unreasonable ask I suppose

3492
02:30:53,630 --> 02:30:51,000
um but it's just insane to me that I

3493
02:30:56,389 --> 02:30:53,640
went from you know and I don't know why

3494
02:30:59,090 --> 02:30:56,399
especially the haters of this

3495
02:31:03,309 --> 02:30:59,100
can't look at oh my God for two years

3496
02:31:05,630 --> 02:31:03,319
this guy was the most positive uh

3497
02:31:08,210 --> 02:31:05,640
hard-working and people did have news

3498
02:31:10,309 --> 02:31:08,220
people were a little weird about the 180

3499
02:31:12,770 --> 02:31:10,319
but they have to I understood it

3500
02:31:15,469 --> 02:31:12,780
immediately and some people it's it's

3501
02:31:18,050 --> 02:31:15,479
taken them time to process it and and

3502
02:31:19,429 --> 02:31:18,060
understand why the 180 and that's

3503
02:31:21,770 --> 02:31:19,439
another question that I have for you

3504
02:31:24,050 --> 02:31:21,780
somebody asked me if you're going to

3505
02:31:31,270 --> 02:31:24,060
continue to make these videos where you

3506
02:31:37,010 --> 02:31:34,370
man if you think those are good

3507
02:31:38,150 --> 02:31:37,020
I've got some really great ideas that

3508
02:31:42,230 --> 02:31:38,160
I've already talked to a few people

3509
02:31:45,290 --> 02:31:42,240
about but you know

3510
02:31:48,969 --> 02:31:45,300
I just again I I think of you know like

3511
02:31:52,910 --> 02:31:48,979
what what is my energy best served doing

3512
02:31:56,150 --> 02:31:52,920
concentrating on my career and my uh

3513
02:32:00,230 --> 02:31:56,160
desires for success and and goals that I

3514
02:32:02,090 --> 02:32:00,240
want to reach or making videos where I

3515
02:32:05,809 --> 02:32:02,100
get the you know where that's that's

3516
02:32:07,550 --> 02:32:05,819
gonna make me feel really good I love

3517
02:32:09,349 --> 02:32:07,560
those kind of you know myself I do those

3518
02:32:11,330 --> 02:32:09,359
things and I feel great about it when

3519
02:32:13,730 --> 02:32:11,340
I'm done I guess this is great work

3520
02:32:16,309 --> 02:32:13,740
right no but I mean but the time

3521
02:32:17,929 --> 02:32:16,319
especially if it's like you know I'm not

3522
02:32:20,870 --> 02:32:17,939
talking about doing live shows live

3523
02:32:24,889 --> 02:32:20,880
shows for me are infant I could do a

3524
02:32:27,730 --> 02:32:24,899
show with my eyes closed it's so easy

3525
02:32:31,070 --> 02:32:27,740
um but to the editing anyway

3526
02:32:34,550 --> 02:32:31,080
I'm learning so much to take something I

3527
02:32:37,849 --> 02:32:34,560
mean much time editing editing I enjoy

3528
02:32:40,849 --> 02:32:37,859
it's the you know but if it's gonna be

3529
02:32:43,150 --> 02:32:40,859
good it's got to be written out you

3530
02:32:47,150 --> 02:32:43,160
better have a script

3531
02:32:48,230 --> 02:32:47,160
yeah so like it's a lot of work and it's

3532
02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:48,240
like well

3533
02:32:54,290 --> 02:32:51,840
do I wanted to vote all of this time in

3534
02:32:57,290 --> 02:32:54,300
all of this work when I could be taking

3535
02:33:00,349 --> 02:32:57,300
that energy in that time and that

3536
02:33:02,330 --> 02:33:00,359
dedication and that drive and just put

3537
02:33:04,849 --> 02:33:02,340
it into acting you know or putting it

3538
02:33:06,710 --> 02:33:04,859
into my golf or put it into you know

3539
02:33:10,910 --> 02:33:06,720
another production company that that

3540
02:33:13,370 --> 02:33:10,920
wants to grow on yeah don't you think

3541
02:33:15,410 --> 02:33:13,380
this you only get so much juice that's

3542
02:33:17,809 --> 02:33:15,420
what I call it I call it juice and

3543
02:33:20,870 --> 02:33:17,819
sometimes Lou I get pissed off because

3544
02:33:23,330 --> 02:33:20,880
sometimes I said I've I'm working so

3545
02:33:25,250 --> 02:33:23,340
hard doing this show and there's and

3546
02:33:27,950 --> 02:33:25,260
just like you I have this cabin that's

3547
02:33:29,510 --> 02:33:27,960
all it's almost done I'm gonna finish a

3548
02:33:31,250 --> 02:33:29,520
lifelong dream I've been building this

3549
02:33:33,290 --> 02:33:31,260
place for five years if I walked away

3550
02:33:36,610 --> 02:33:33,300
from this show it would be done in a

3551
02:33:39,469 --> 02:33:36,620
month or less you know well imagine

3552
02:33:42,349 --> 02:33:39,479
a few hours and then I come back and do

3553
02:33:45,230 --> 02:33:42,359
25 or 50 hours here so I don't but

3554
02:33:47,809 --> 02:33:45,240
imagine on that imagine if you never did

3555
02:33:49,190 --> 02:33:47,819
the show that cabinet would be done in

3556
02:33:52,670 --> 02:33:49,200
years I'm starting on my other one yeah

3557
02:33:54,349 --> 02:33:52,680
yeah you know so like it just so I don't

3558
02:34:01,670 --> 02:33:54,359
wanna

3559
02:34:04,010 --> 02:34:01,680
if if I do this like I said earlier it's

3560
02:34:06,349 --> 02:34:04,020
for McGowan it's for people like McGowan

3561
02:34:09,050 --> 02:34:06,359
it's for people like

3562
02:34:11,510 --> 02:34:09,060
um uh Stephen Green Street you know it's

3563
02:34:13,309 --> 02:34:11,520
for people like who were you know

3564
02:34:15,170 --> 02:34:13,319
Stephen Green Street had the basement

3565
02:34:17,690 --> 02:34:15,180
office man

3566
02:34:25,130 --> 02:34:17,700
season one was absolute fire everybody

3567
02:34:29,750 --> 02:34:28,130
and then and then season two everybody's

3568
02:34:31,370 --> 02:34:29,760
like you're a fraud you're fake you're a

3569
02:34:34,610 --> 02:34:31,380
liar you're this you're that way whoa

3570
02:34:37,130 --> 02:34:34,620
whoa whoa what happened like what

3571
02:34:39,050 --> 02:34:37,140
happened here like uh he was one of the

3572
02:34:41,330 --> 02:34:39,060
greatest researchers two years ago now

3573
02:34:42,770 --> 02:34:41,340
all of a sudden he's a liar and a and a

3574
02:34:45,050 --> 02:34:42,780
wife be or whatever the hell else you

3575
02:34:45,770 --> 02:34:45,060
want to throw out there at him like it's

3576
02:34:48,050 --> 02:34:45,780
just

3577
02:34:49,969 --> 02:34:48,060
I never I'm done taking these

3578
02:34:51,830 --> 02:34:49,979
accusations especially on Twitter

3579
02:34:53,570 --> 02:34:51,840
seriously because when I see people

3580
02:34:56,030 --> 02:34:53,580
taking pictures of John Green while

3581
02:34:58,490 --> 02:34:56,040
dressed as a Nazi for a History Channel

3582
02:35:01,490 --> 02:34:58,500
show and then sharing them on Twitter as

3583
02:35:03,770 --> 02:35:01,500
if like that's his real thing

3584
02:35:06,790 --> 02:35:03,780
um that's why I was just like okay yeah

3585
02:35:12,889 --> 02:35:10,550
it's crazy it's crazy and then you look

3586
02:35:15,770 --> 02:35:12,899
at the accounts and they're likely if

3587
02:35:17,870 --> 02:35:15,780
they're if they're not just some incel

3588
02:35:20,870 --> 02:35:17,880
sitting in a basement jerking off to

3589
02:35:23,030 --> 02:35:20,880
porn all day it's probably a sock puppet

3590
02:35:26,030 --> 02:35:23,040
account of one of these people that you

3591
02:35:28,130 --> 02:35:26,040
know has pledges on their on their on

3592
02:35:30,170 --> 02:35:28,140
their public uh Twitter telling you

3593
02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:30,180
about how they're never gonna lie about

3594
02:35:34,849 --> 02:35:32,640
you know they they expect everybody to

3595
02:35:38,030 --> 02:35:34,859
to be respectful to one another and uh

3596
02:35:40,610 --> 02:35:38,040
you know espousing these these these

3597
02:35:42,830 --> 02:35:40,620
these morals and these the SE these uh

3598
02:35:45,590 --> 02:35:42,840
codes of conduct and then turn around

3599
02:35:48,590 --> 02:35:45,600
and have sock puppet accounts multiple

3600
02:35:51,110 --> 02:35:48,600
sock puppet accounts yeah I mentioned

3601
02:35:53,150 --> 02:35:51,120
this I think that his ego must be like

3602
02:35:54,950 --> 02:35:53,160
there's something wrong there for a guy

3603
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:54,960
to have to make a fake account so that

3604
02:35:58,330 --> 02:35:56,399
he could go on Twitter when somebody

3605
02:36:01,910 --> 02:35:58,340
says something that's argue

3606
02:36:04,849 --> 02:36:01,920
you know what and another thing it's

3607
02:36:07,010 --> 02:36:04,859
just so common you know I mean I just I

3608
02:36:09,650 --> 02:36:07,020
love when he talks about how fragile

3609
02:36:13,090 --> 02:36:09,660
people are I mean dude you are the most

3610
02:36:16,130 --> 02:36:13,100
you like you like

3611
02:36:19,670 --> 02:36:16,140
you you are like

3612
02:36:21,889 --> 02:36:19,680
you're you're fine china you know in a

3613
02:36:23,389 --> 02:36:21,899
in a rugby game like yeah Steve long

3614
02:36:25,309 --> 02:36:23,399
says this and I want you to hear this

3615
02:36:27,650 --> 02:36:25,319
because this is important and so many

3616
02:36:30,530 --> 02:36:27,660
people have expressed this to me similar

3617
02:36:32,450 --> 02:36:30,540
things so Steve long says I get

3618
02:36:34,190 --> 02:36:32,460
prioritizing but hopefully there's more

3619
02:36:37,070 --> 02:36:34,200
contributions coming from Lou in the

3620
02:36:38,990 --> 02:36:37,080
future In fairness the BS got two years

3621
02:36:41,450 --> 02:36:39,000
of episodes in support and amplification

3622
02:36:44,450 --> 02:36:41,460
but only two episodes to amend for it

3623
02:36:47,510 --> 02:36:44,460
some people it's like no matter what you

3624
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:47,520
do is is you know everybody's gonna

3625
02:36:52,010 --> 02:36:50,399
think a certain way you know well I

3626
02:36:54,410 --> 02:36:52,020
don't think you owe anybody anything

3627
02:36:57,469 --> 02:36:54,420
though you know that's what I nailed it

3628
02:36:59,690 --> 02:36:57,479
you absolutely just nailed it and and

3629
02:37:01,849 --> 02:36:59,700
this was

3630
02:37:04,130 --> 02:37:01,859
um because I had a lot of guilt after I

3631
02:37:06,170 --> 02:37:04,140
quit the show I had a lot of guilt

3632
02:37:08,990 --> 02:37:06,180
because I was like

3633
02:37:10,670 --> 02:37:09,000
I genuinely believe

3634
02:37:14,990 --> 02:37:10,680
um

3635
02:37:17,690 --> 02:37:15,000
that this community has a lot of mental

3636
02:37:20,030 --> 02:37:17,700
illness in it a lot of mental illness

3637
02:37:22,190 --> 02:37:20,040
and I think that parts of this community

3638
02:37:23,929 --> 02:37:22,200
are just as dangerous and just as

3639
02:37:25,790 --> 02:37:23,939
susceptible to believe things like

3640
02:37:29,150 --> 02:37:25,800
pizzagate

3641
02:37:31,070 --> 02:37:29,160
um and I I really felt guilty because I

3642
02:37:33,650 --> 02:37:31,080
was like well dude you know you should

3643
02:37:37,250 --> 02:37:33,660
do a show that calls this [\h__\h] out that

3644
02:37:39,410 --> 02:37:37,260
warns people about this um uh but I

3645
02:37:41,090 --> 02:37:39,420
don't owe anybody a [\h__\h] thing and

3646
02:37:44,650 --> 02:37:41,100
that's what my brother told me you know

3647
02:37:50,750 --> 02:37:44,660
you don't owe anybody anything I've done

3648
02:37:53,630 --> 02:37:50,760
more than anybody anybody to try and

3649
02:37:56,210 --> 02:37:53,640
um bring people together organized speak

3650
02:37:58,190 --> 02:37:56,220
in one voice do it in an intelligent way

3651
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:58,200
so we don't sound like a bunch of loons

3652
02:38:03,889 --> 02:38:01,200
asking for UFO data when there's threat

3653
02:38:06,170 --> 02:38:03,899
of nuclear war or when kids are going

3654
02:38:08,990 --> 02:38:06,180
hungry in the streets or when people

3655
02:38:11,270 --> 02:38:09,000
don't have health care like all of these

3656
02:38:13,389 --> 02:38:11,280
real world problems um

3657
02:38:16,309 --> 02:38:13,399
I I I

3658
02:38:19,010 --> 02:38:16,319
empathize with that statement Steve long

3659
02:38:21,950 --> 02:38:19,020
and dude I

3660
02:38:23,389 --> 02:38:21,960
I struggled with that until I talked to

3661
02:38:25,849 --> 02:38:23,399
my brother

3662
02:38:28,250 --> 02:38:25,859
um and he really made me realize I don't

3663
02:38:31,070 --> 02:38:28,260
owe anybody a [\h__\h] thing I really

3664
02:38:32,330 --> 02:38:31,080
don't and if I did do it I would be

3665
02:38:32,990 --> 02:38:32,340
doing it

3666
02:38:36,650 --> 02:38:33,000
um

3667
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:36,660
for me and then but also if I did owe

3668
02:38:41,450 --> 02:38:38,640
anybody anything I think the only person

3669
02:38:43,429 --> 02:38:41,460
I owe anybody anything is Jeremy McGowan

3670
02:38:46,730 --> 02:38:43,439
uh he as far as I'm concerned he's the

3671
02:38:49,849 --> 02:38:46,740
only person I owe anybody to because I

3672
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:49,859
really had a lot of guilt in how I kind

3673
02:38:54,770 --> 02:38:52,800
of I don't want to say wrote him off I

3674
02:38:57,889 --> 02:38:54,780
didn't mean to write him off but take

3675
02:39:00,290 --> 02:38:57,899
his warning though he I I I listened to

3676
02:39:01,969 --> 02:39:00,300
his warning and and the reason why I

3677
02:39:04,309 --> 02:39:01,979
knew about the sock puppet account is

3678
02:39:07,490 --> 02:39:04,319
because McGowan told me and then when

3679
02:39:09,650 --> 02:39:07,500
Miguel was like no way and then I saw

3680
02:39:10,429 --> 02:39:09,660
um I think it was

3681
02:39:13,250 --> 02:39:10,439
um

3682
02:39:16,130 --> 02:39:13,260
I'm trying to it wasn't Brian Bender but

3683
02:39:18,710 --> 02:39:16,140
it was somebody in that vein who

3684
02:39:21,290 --> 02:39:18,720
responded to a tweet from faceless

3685
02:39:24,050 --> 02:39:21,300
bureaucrat and I'm paraphrasing here but

3686
02:39:26,510 --> 02:39:24,060
it was something along the lines of all

3687
02:39:29,530 --> 02:39:26,520
right Lou just go to bed all right like

3688
02:39:32,150 --> 02:39:29,540
kind of like that was great

3689
02:39:34,730 --> 02:39:32,160
I think it was him but I remember that

3690
02:39:36,410 --> 02:39:34,740
specific thing yeah but when I saw that

3691
02:39:39,650 --> 02:39:36,420
I was like

3692
02:39:42,170 --> 02:39:39,660
oh it's true and then that's when I pose

3693
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:42,180
the question to the group like okay I

3694
02:39:45,889 --> 02:39:43,680
heard this from McGowan and then I saw

3695
02:39:47,929 --> 02:39:45,899
this journalist actually call him out on

3696
02:39:51,290 --> 02:39:47,939
it I was like should we ask this

3697
02:39:53,690 --> 02:39:51,300
question are we that kind of show and I

3698
02:39:55,130 --> 02:39:53,700
I eventually I had the final call on

3699
02:39:57,530 --> 02:39:55,140
that and the reason why I didn't do it

3700
02:39:59,450 --> 02:39:57,540
is a couple you know many reasons I

3701
02:40:00,770 --> 02:39:59,460
didn't want to lose access I didn't want

3702
02:40:03,290 --> 02:40:00,780
to upset him

3703
02:40:05,750 --> 02:40:03,300
um but I also was just like you know in

3704
02:40:07,790 --> 02:40:05,760
that sort of that UFO podcast mentality

3705
02:40:10,370 --> 02:40:07,800
where just like we're not that show like

3706
02:40:12,349 --> 02:40:10,380
I'm not Walter Cronkite I'm not Barbara

3707
02:40:14,870 --> 02:40:12,359
Walters this isn't 60 Minutes like I'm

3708
02:40:18,170 --> 02:40:14,880
not here to make her look bad like you

3709
02:40:21,110 --> 02:40:18,180
know and and at that time that was the

3710
02:40:23,270 --> 02:40:21,120
only red flag that I had seen and I'm

3711
02:40:24,710 --> 02:40:23,280
like I'm not willing to bust this whole

3712
02:40:28,190 --> 02:40:24,720
Shore

3713
02:40:30,830 --> 02:40:28,200
that one red flag I'm like I need more

3714
02:40:34,730 --> 02:40:30,840
than that so I sat and I waited

3715
02:40:37,490 --> 02:40:34,740
and ever since that first red flag

3716
02:40:39,410 --> 02:40:37,500
we'd get you know I'd get other little

3717
02:40:41,870 --> 02:40:39,420
red flags that I don't want to say what

3718
02:40:43,849 --> 02:40:41,880
they were because there's a really long

3719
02:40:45,710 --> 02:40:43,859
story behind all of them and I don't

3720
02:40:49,190 --> 02:40:45,720
want anything to be taken out of context

3721
02:40:52,490 --> 02:40:49,200
but yeah a bunch of red flags yeah I saw

3722
02:40:56,090 --> 02:40:52,500
a bunch of red flags Then I then we had

3723
02:40:58,550 --> 02:40:56,100
sock puppet account then we had leaking

3724
02:41:01,070 --> 02:40:58,560
of private messages then or before

3725
02:41:02,990 --> 02:41:01,080
league in private we had uh go kick

3726
02:41:07,370 --> 02:41:03,000
rocks you know from the guy that we

3727
02:41:09,230 --> 02:41:07,380
devoted hundreds of hours to then we got

3728
02:41:11,150 --> 02:41:09,240
you know the leaked messages in the

3729
02:41:15,290 --> 02:41:11,160
blackmail and I was like okay that's it

3730
02:41:17,330 --> 02:41:15,300
like that is [\h__\h] it that's it um you

3731
02:41:19,010 --> 02:41:17,340
know and and this idea of having to fall

3732
02:41:23,389 --> 02:41:19,020
on the sword for them

3733
02:41:25,969 --> 02:41:23,399
um I I that's when I was like you know

3734
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:25,979
and also like part of the reason why we

3735
02:41:30,590 --> 02:41:28,560
asked that question was because I didn't

3736
02:41:32,690 --> 02:41:30,600
ask for that I didn't ask for that last

3737
02:41:35,630 --> 02:41:32,700
Lou Elizondo interview it was Jennifer

3738
02:41:37,370 --> 02:41:35,640
Elizondo that emailed me like four or

3739
02:41:39,650 --> 02:41:37,380
five months before that interview saying

3740
02:41:41,330 --> 02:41:39,660
hey Lou's doing this final tour and he

3741
02:41:43,610 --> 02:41:41,340
wants to know if if you want him on the

3742
02:41:45,950 --> 02:41:43,620
show before he takes a really long break

3743
02:41:48,410 --> 02:41:45,960
away from this and I was like

3744
02:41:49,969 --> 02:41:48,420
sure why not you know but I didn't ask

3745
02:41:51,830 --> 02:41:49,979
him back on the show because we really

3746
02:41:54,469 --> 02:41:51,840
didn't have any more questions for him

3747
02:41:56,510 --> 02:41:54,479
and I was like well he's taking a long

3748
02:41:59,090 --> 02:41:56,520
break we have this question that we've

3749
02:42:01,010 --> 02:41:59,100
always wanted to ask and I'm like and I

3750
02:42:03,050 --> 02:42:01,020
told rather you know a couple this might

3751
02:42:04,490 --> 02:42:03,060
be our last chance to ask it right I'm

3752
02:42:06,050 --> 02:42:04,500
like I'm like this might be our last

3753
02:42:08,090 --> 02:42:06,060
chance to ask him and I was like so

3754
02:42:10,670 --> 02:42:08,100
let's do it this way I'll play good cop

3755
02:42:12,770 --> 02:42:10,680
you play bad cop you know and and

3756
02:42:15,469 --> 02:42:12,780
because I'm the host of the show and and

3757
02:42:17,330 --> 02:42:15,479
I've had especially like you know the a

3758
02:42:19,790 --> 02:42:17,340
lot of awkward moments where I've had to

3759
02:42:21,410 --> 02:42:19,800
transition and be a good host and sort

3760
02:42:24,230 --> 02:42:21,420
of smooth out the awkwardness that's

3761
02:42:25,969 --> 02:42:24,240
happening yeah I've been there

3762
02:42:28,070 --> 02:42:25,979
the first thing I think of of course is

3763
02:42:30,110 --> 02:42:28,080
Robert Salas you know yelling on the big

3764
02:42:31,429 --> 02:42:30,120
phone home too what is this the Louella

3765
02:42:33,050 --> 02:42:31,439
zondo show

3766
02:42:34,309 --> 02:42:33,060
um you know so like moments like that

3767
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:34,319
where I was like okay well if he

3768
02:42:38,929 --> 02:42:36,960
responds badly to the question I could

3769
02:42:40,309 --> 02:42:38,939
play good cop and sort of smooth it out

3770
02:42:43,010 --> 02:42:40,319
right

3771
02:42:46,670 --> 02:42:43,020
um and uh and then we got what we got

3772
02:42:48,650 --> 02:42:46,680
and it was like [\h__\h] that was crazy and

3773
02:42:51,050 --> 02:42:48,660
then we talked about it we talked we we

3774
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:51,060
sat on it for 24 hours and then we came

3775
02:42:55,429 --> 02:42:52,560
back and talked about it live on the

3776
02:42:58,610 --> 02:42:55,439
show and it was like yeah like this is

3777
02:43:01,849 --> 02:42:58,620
this is awful like this is a terrible

3778
02:43:04,370 --> 02:43:01,859
Revelation about this person who we held

3779
02:43:05,389 --> 02:43:04,380
in a really really high regard and I

3780
02:43:09,050 --> 02:43:05,399
learned

3781
02:43:11,570 --> 02:43:09,060
um I I had to relearn a valuable lesson

3782
02:43:14,450 --> 02:43:11,580
that day and and essentially the lesson

3783
02:43:20,150 --> 02:43:17,090
don't put anyone on a pedestal everyone

3784
02:43:20,690 --> 02:43:20,160
is human everyone has

3785
02:43:24,650 --> 02:43:20,700
um

3786
02:43:26,210 --> 02:43:24,660
uh things that uh they're not incredibly

3787
02:43:28,190 --> 02:43:26,220
proud of or things that they're super

3788
02:43:31,010 --> 02:43:28,200
Petty about

3789
02:43:32,990 --> 02:43:31,020
um and but but not only that but you

3790
02:43:36,110 --> 02:43:33,000
know I then I started thinking about to

3791
02:43:38,210 --> 02:43:36,120
all the heroes that I really respected

3792
02:43:40,849 --> 02:43:38,220
the people especially when I was young

3793
02:43:43,130 --> 02:43:40,859
like 20 when I when I think about Che

3794
02:43:44,690 --> 02:43:43,140
and when I think about

3795
02:43:46,910 --> 02:43:44,700
um Martin Luther King and I think about

3796
02:43:50,809 --> 02:43:46,920
Gandhi and I think about all of these

3797
02:43:52,849 --> 02:43:50,819
civil rights leaders JFK like uh you

3798
02:43:55,250 --> 02:43:52,859
know JFK cheated on his wife he may have

3799
02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:55,260
raped somebody uh he he was a drug

3800
02:44:00,170 --> 02:43:56,399
addict

3801
02:44:01,790 --> 02:44:00,180
um uh Martin Luther King Jr hated gay

3802
02:44:04,730 --> 02:44:01,800
people he was a Baptist Southern

3803
02:44:10,389 --> 02:44:04,740
Minister who cheated on his wife

3804
02:44:16,130 --> 02:44:13,250
you know and so that's that's the lesson

3805
02:44:18,950 --> 02:44:16,140
is is look you can respect people's

3806
02:44:22,670 --> 02:44:18,960
philosophies you can of course look up

3807
02:44:24,950 --> 02:44:22,680
to them but don't expect any of them to

3808
02:44:27,770 --> 02:44:24,960
be perfect because if you put that

3809
02:44:31,010 --> 02:44:27,780
expectation of perfection onto your hero

3810
02:44:35,090 --> 02:44:31,020
when you learn stuff like this you're

3811
02:44:37,429 --> 02:44:35,100
gonna be let down tremendously and

3812
02:44:39,290 --> 02:44:37,439
and you know you know that old saying

3813
02:44:42,050 --> 02:44:39,300
don't don't get too close to you don't

3814
02:44:43,370 --> 02:44:42,060
meet your Heroes don't don't especially

3815
02:44:45,469 --> 02:44:43,380
don't get too close to them you're in

3816
02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:45,479
the entertainment industry so was I for

3817
02:44:51,050 --> 02:44:46,640
a long time

3818
02:44:52,670 --> 02:44:51,060
I have met some very like people that I

3819
02:44:55,610 --> 02:44:52,680
used to think were like really

3820
02:44:57,770 --> 02:44:55,620
incredible people and and some of them I

3821
02:44:59,210 --> 02:44:57,780
wish I never would have met them I wish

3822
02:45:01,190 --> 02:44:59,220
I never would have gotten to know them

3823
02:45:03,830 --> 02:45:01,200
or what they were really like I would

3824
02:45:06,349 --> 02:45:03,840
rather just seen them in movies or TV or

3825
02:45:08,450 --> 02:45:06,359
whatever and and thought what I thought

3826
02:45:10,610 --> 02:45:08,460
about them like what a great person what

3827
02:45:13,610 --> 02:45:10,620
this with that some of these people are

3828
02:45:15,590 --> 02:45:13,620
it's not good to meet your Heroes maybe

3829
02:45:17,750 --> 02:45:15,600
that's the problem you and I were like

3830
02:45:19,490 --> 02:45:17,760
moths and we got too close to the flame

3831
02:45:21,889 --> 02:45:19,500
right right but but here's the thing is

3832
02:45:25,250 --> 02:45:21,899
it's he's got to take blame for that too

3833
02:45:27,610 --> 02:45:25,260
because look at his pin tweet you know

3834
02:45:31,370 --> 02:45:27,620
these these values that he expect

3835
02:45:33,889 --> 02:45:31,380
expound you know um espouses to to the

3836
02:45:35,150 --> 02:45:33,899
community like about who his character

3837
02:45:36,050 --> 02:45:35,160
is

3838
02:45:40,070 --> 02:45:36,060
um

3839
02:45:44,570 --> 02:45:40,080
it's all a lie like it's it's like it

3840
02:45:47,630 --> 02:45:44,580
they're lies mostly he's lying and so

3841
02:45:49,670 --> 02:45:47,640
you know it was again like I think

3842
02:45:51,770 --> 02:45:49,680
for me especially because I actually

3843
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:51,780
like here's a funny interaction that I

3844
02:45:56,809 --> 02:45:54,960
when I first met him uh you know the the

3845
02:45:57,889 --> 02:45:56,819
the the meals wrapping up they're paying

3846
02:45:59,450 --> 02:45:57,899
for their check and he's like hey man

3847
02:46:00,889 --> 02:45:59,460
you want a picture and I wasn't gonna

3848
02:46:03,770 --> 02:46:00,899
ask him for a picture because I don't do

3849
02:46:06,530 --> 02:46:03,780
I'm not a star [\h__\h] I don't get

3850
02:46:08,330 --> 02:46:06,540
um I don't get like I've worked I've

3851
02:46:10,730 --> 02:46:08,340
worked with Tom Hanks I've served food

3852
02:46:12,950 --> 02:46:10,740
to Anthony Bourdain I've served food

3853
02:46:15,710 --> 02:46:12,960
some Madonna Oprah it's nice when they

3854
02:46:17,570 --> 02:46:15,720
like her though right because yeah if

3855
02:46:19,429 --> 02:46:17,580
you don't feel awkward they're offering

3856
02:46:21,590 --> 02:46:19,439
you don't feel like correct the needy

3857
02:46:24,590 --> 02:46:21,600
person I write the same rule I will

3858
02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:24,600
never ask a person or or even suggest it

3859
02:46:28,969 --> 02:46:27,120
but if they offer [\h__\h] yeah you know

3860
02:46:30,710 --> 02:46:28,979
well he was like he was like so he says

3861
02:46:32,330 --> 02:46:30,720
hey man you want a picture like [\h__\h]

3862
02:46:35,150 --> 02:46:32,340
yeah that'd be great

3863
02:46:37,010 --> 02:46:35,160
um so he he he's like hey he hands his

3864
02:46:38,270 --> 02:46:37,020
phone to somebody he said hey take it

3865
02:46:40,070 --> 02:46:38,280
take a picture of us and I was like oh

3866
02:46:41,809 --> 02:46:40,080
[\h__\h] it's on his phone maybe I'll just

3867
02:46:44,030 --> 02:46:41,819
get it with my phone when it's done and

3868
02:46:45,530 --> 02:46:44,040
so he after the picture's taken he he

3869
02:46:46,670 --> 02:46:45,540
grabs his phone back he's like what's

3870
02:46:48,469 --> 02:46:46,680
your phone number

3871
02:46:50,750 --> 02:46:48,479
and I gave him my phone number and he

3872
02:46:53,870 --> 02:46:50,760
texted me from his phone

3873
02:46:56,870 --> 02:46:53,880
I was like wow he's like anytime you're

3874
02:46:58,849 --> 02:46:56,880
an Encinitas come down uh he's like give

3875
02:47:00,950 --> 02:46:58,859
me a call and I'll give you the tour of

3876
02:47:02,990 --> 02:47:00,960
the shop and and the facilities I was

3877
02:47:06,230 --> 02:47:03,000
like I was like are you sure bro cause

3878
02:47:07,790 --> 02:47:06,240
I'm gonna call you you know um I was

3879
02:47:10,190 --> 02:47:07,800
super excited you know I was like wow

3880
02:47:11,750 --> 02:47:10,200
this guy is cool you know um and he's

3881
02:47:14,030 --> 02:47:11,760
and

3882
02:47:17,150 --> 02:47:14,040
like again when you like

3883
02:47:19,250 --> 02:47:17,160
there's no doubt in my mind if I never

3884
02:47:22,610 --> 02:47:19,260
spoke to UFO about UFOs with Lou

3885
02:47:25,849 --> 02:47:22,620
Elizondo I'd love him to death he's a

3886
02:47:28,010 --> 02:47:25,859
really really personable very

3887
02:47:30,830 --> 02:47:28,020
um he's just he feels like a guy's guy

3888
02:47:33,050 --> 02:47:30,840
like I I could have beers with him uh he

3889
02:47:34,849 --> 02:47:33,060
he's he's very good at making you feel

3890
02:47:38,630 --> 02:47:34,859
comfortable around him

3891
02:47:40,670 --> 02:47:38,640
um and uh and I think that that was

3892
02:47:43,010 --> 02:47:40,680
really genuine like my first interaction

3893
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:43,020
with him there was no agenda from either

3894
02:47:47,090 --> 02:47:43,920
side

3895
02:47:48,770 --> 02:47:47,100
um you know it was just a it just I was

3896
02:47:50,450 --> 02:47:48,780
working in one of LA's best restaurants

3897
02:47:53,030 --> 02:47:50,460
and the production team of the History

3898
02:47:54,889 --> 02:47:53,040
Channel walked into our restaurant

3899
02:47:56,510 --> 02:47:54,899
um it's funny how many things you know

3900
02:47:58,130 --> 02:47:56,520
you know you don't know this but there's

3901
02:48:00,170 --> 02:47:58,140
so many things that you and I have in

3902
02:48:02,330 --> 02:48:00,180
common that we both never knew I worked

3903
02:48:04,429 --> 02:48:02,340
in fine dining when I was very young I

3904
02:48:07,070 --> 02:48:04,439
loved working in fine dining I loved it

3905
02:48:09,650 --> 02:48:07,080
in fact every once in a while I think

3906
02:48:13,550 --> 02:48:09,660
about going back to that extremely part

3907
02:48:15,410 --> 02:48:13,560
time just because the the the best time

3908
02:48:18,110 --> 02:48:15,420
one of the best best times in my lives

3909
02:48:19,849 --> 02:48:18,120
was when I was working in fine dining I

3910
02:48:22,190 --> 02:48:19,859
just loved the people I worked at a

3911
02:48:25,610 --> 02:48:22,200
really nice Italian restaurant that was

3912
02:48:27,590 --> 02:48:25,620
run by a famous family and they we had

3913
02:48:29,270 --> 02:48:27,600
dinner together before dinner service we

3914
02:48:31,090 --> 02:48:29,280
had lunch together before lunch there

3915
02:48:34,250 --> 02:48:31,100
was breakfast together

3916
02:48:36,410 --> 02:48:34,260
I was there from 8 A.M until midnight

3917
02:48:38,510 --> 02:48:36,420
and I spent so much time it was great

3918
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:38,520
and you get to meet all these people and

3919
02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:39,840
and you feel like you're doing something

3920
02:48:44,510 --> 02:48:42,960
good you know yeah well I mean I I've

3921
02:48:46,370 --> 02:48:44,520
been doing it for 20 years I'll be

3922
02:48:48,110 --> 02:48:46,380
honestly I'm kind of broken I don't want

3923
02:48:49,849 --> 02:48:48,120
yeah that's as bad as that I didn't do

3924
02:48:52,010 --> 02:48:49,859
it even that long and I got burned out

3925
02:48:55,130 --> 02:48:52,020
and said that's enough yeah like I I

3926
02:48:57,469 --> 02:48:55,140
have I've been it just say you know just

3927
02:48:58,730 --> 02:48:57,479
like the UFO Community the restaurant uh

3928
02:49:01,670 --> 02:48:58,740
business will

3929
02:49:04,130 --> 02:49:01,680
take you in chew you up and spit you out

3930
02:49:06,530 --> 02:49:04,140
they don't give a [\h__\h] how loyal you are

3931
02:49:08,750 --> 02:49:06,540
how hard you work how much money you

3932
02:49:10,730 --> 02:49:08,760
make them it doesn't matter

3933
02:49:13,370 --> 02:49:10,740
um it just does not matter for most

3934
02:49:16,250 --> 02:49:13,380
restaurant owners um I've met I don't

3935
02:49:19,010 --> 02:49:16,260
think I've met one where I was like wow

3936
02:49:21,050 --> 02:49:19,020
you're genuinely in this for for the all

3937
02:49:23,150 --> 02:49:21,060
the right reasons um I'll take that back

3938
02:49:25,309 --> 02:49:23,160
I have met a couple but restaurants that

3939
02:49:26,990 --> 02:49:25,319
I haven't I worked I worked for a few

3940
02:49:31,010 --> 02:49:27,000
that I thought were good good people

3941
02:49:32,570 --> 02:49:31,020
yeah no no I mean look I I've I've

3942
02:49:35,809 --> 02:49:32,580
um if you've ever seen the show The Bear

3943
02:49:38,450 --> 02:49:35,819
those are the kind of uh environments

3944
02:49:41,990 --> 02:49:38,460
those those are the environments that

3945
02:49:45,469 --> 02:49:42,000
I've spent a lot of my career in

3946
02:49:47,570 --> 02:49:45,479
um and uh you know and and I thrive in a

3947
02:49:50,030 --> 02:49:47,580
lot of ways in that kind of environment

3948
02:49:52,429 --> 02:49:50,040
um because you know the thing about me

3949
02:49:54,230 --> 02:49:52,439
is I don't make a lot of mistakes but

3950
02:49:57,309 --> 02:49:54,240
when I do make a mistake I make it at a

3951
02:50:00,650 --> 02:49:57,319
hundred percent and that's when I yeah

3952
02:50:01,910 --> 02:50:00,660
you know that's what I told them this

3953
02:50:03,530 --> 02:50:01,920
last interview I went on because I'm

3954
02:50:06,349 --> 02:50:03,540
working at this fancy French restaurant

3955
02:50:09,110 --> 02:50:06,359
now in LA and you know that's what I

3956
02:50:11,030 --> 02:50:09,120
told my the GM when I interviewed you

3957
02:50:12,469 --> 02:50:11,040
know like look I'm not perfect but but

3958
02:50:14,389 --> 02:50:12,479
when I do make mistakes I'll make them

3959
02:50:17,990 --> 02:50:14,399
at 100 percent

3960
02:50:20,270 --> 02:50:18,000
um and you know so I just yeah I've I'm

3961
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:20,280
I really want to be done with that part

3962
02:50:25,910 --> 02:50:22,800
of my life but you know because I quit

3963
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:25,920
the show like I I took to do the show

3964
02:50:31,190 --> 02:50:29,520
man like I took a huge pay cut like I

3965
02:50:32,750 --> 02:50:31,200
was making seventy thousand dollars a

3966
02:50:36,469 --> 02:50:32,760
year working in a restaurant then the

3967
02:50:38,090 --> 02:50:36,479
pandemic hit and you know it killed

3968
02:50:39,950 --> 02:50:38,100
everything but I also but it also gave

3969
02:50:42,530 --> 02:50:39,960
me a really wonderful window and

3970
02:50:44,990 --> 02:50:42,540
opportunity to go you know what I'm

3971
02:50:47,210 --> 02:50:45,000
gonna really give him a hundred percent

3972
02:50:48,950 --> 02:50:47,220
to this that's another thing you and I

3973
02:50:50,570 --> 02:50:48,960
have in common I was doing this shitty

3974
02:50:52,849 --> 02:50:50,580
audio podcast almost nobody was

3975
02:50:54,530 --> 02:50:52,859
listening the pandemic hit and I

3976
02:50:57,050 --> 02:50:54,540
realized early on we're all going to be

3977
02:50:58,790 --> 02:50:57,060
stuck in our house with nothing to do my

3978
02:51:00,469 --> 02:50:58,800
business was in the [\h__\h] because of

3979
02:51:02,210 --> 02:51:00,479
the government regulations and all the

3980
02:51:05,030 --> 02:51:02,220
other things and the lockdowns I said

3981
02:51:07,510 --> 02:51:05,040
I'm just gonna do this I'll just do this

3982
02:51:12,170 --> 02:51:07,520
100 and see what happens

3983
02:51:13,849 --> 02:51:12,180
yeah yeah so so I would you know I'd

3984
02:51:15,410 --> 02:51:13,859
made about twenty four thousand dollars

3985
02:51:18,130 --> 02:51:15,420
a year doing the show and then I would

3986
02:51:20,809 --> 02:51:18,140
do Uber or Lyft part-time

3987
02:51:23,090 --> 02:51:20,819
you know well see that yeah you know I

3988
02:51:25,730 --> 02:51:23,100
would like you know we used to be like

3989
02:51:27,730 --> 02:51:25,740
[\h__\h] that guy and not know how simple

3990
02:51:29,990 --> 02:51:27,740
yeah the two of us no

3991
02:51:31,790 --> 02:51:30,000
it's amazing and that was the whole

3992
02:51:34,070 --> 02:51:31,800
philosophy behind the big phone home one

3993
02:51:36,050 --> 02:51:34,080
you know it's like look I think we're

3994
02:51:38,690 --> 02:51:36,060
losing each other especially in the in

3995
02:51:41,510 --> 02:51:38,700
this community we lose

3996
02:51:42,710 --> 02:51:41,520
so much in Translation especially on

3997
02:51:44,450 --> 02:51:42,720
Twitter

3998
02:51:46,790 --> 02:51:44,460
um and I was like you know let's put all

3999
02:51:48,469 --> 02:51:46,800
this [\h__\h] to the side and one day I

4000
02:51:50,809 --> 02:51:48,479
mean I think we could all agree the

4001
02:51:53,870 --> 02:51:50,819
government definitely has more data than

4002
02:51:55,670 --> 02:51:53,880
we do no like I don't care how cynical

4003
02:51:57,650 --> 02:51:55,680
you are I think anybody and everybody

4004
02:51:59,630 --> 02:51:57,660
can agree yeah the government's

4005
02:52:03,349 --> 02:51:59,640
definitely got more

4006
02:52:06,230 --> 02:52:03,359
um so let's try and use the system as

4007
02:52:08,269 --> 02:52:06,240
broken as it is uh that we have in place

4008
02:52:09,950 --> 02:52:08,279
and see if we can Institute any real

4009
02:52:11,750 --> 02:52:09,960
change

4010
02:52:13,730 --> 02:52:11,760
um yeah and somebody somebody really

4011
02:52:17,210 --> 02:52:13,740
wanted me to ask you your assessment of

4012
02:52:18,889 --> 02:52:17,220
the whole UFO situation after all that

4013
02:52:22,190 --> 02:52:18,899
you have been through what is your whole

4014
02:52:23,330 --> 02:52:22,200
assessment of the actual UFO situation

4015
02:52:25,429 --> 02:52:23,340
um

4016
02:52:27,410 --> 02:52:25,439
that's a good question

4017
02:52:32,210 --> 02:52:27,420
uh

4018
02:52:36,050 --> 02:52:33,769
you know it's tough because I've I've

4019
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:36,060
had this this sighting that I've sort of

4020
02:52:40,429 --> 02:52:39,120
hung my hat on and is sort of uh was a

4021
02:52:42,650 --> 02:52:40,439
really big

4022
02:52:47,330 --> 02:52:44,929
I don't want to call it a scar but the

4023
02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:47,340
way it it that memory has sort of

4024
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:50,399
scarred itself on on in my Consciousness

4025
02:52:55,130 --> 02:52:52,080
and in my brain it's really difficult

4026
02:52:58,070 --> 02:52:55,140
for me to let that go but I also know

4027
02:53:01,969 --> 02:52:58,080
that it's a 29 year old memory

4028
02:53:03,230 --> 02:53:01,979
and and I know for a fact that the human

4029
02:53:06,410 --> 02:53:03,240
mind

4030
02:53:09,349 --> 02:53:06,420
and this is fact the human brain is the

4031
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:09,359
worst Record Keeper of all time and

4032
02:53:13,309 --> 02:53:11,520
every time you access a memory it's not

4033
02:53:15,290 --> 02:53:13,319
the actual memory you're accessing it

4034
02:53:16,790 --> 02:53:15,300
you're accessing the last time you

4035
02:53:19,730 --> 02:53:16,800
remembered it or the last time you

4036
02:53:21,530 --> 02:53:19,740
thought about it so you lose details you

4037
02:53:23,750 --> 02:53:21,540
lose a lot of things that you thought

4038
02:53:25,790 --> 02:53:23,760
you remember correctly but I I know for

4039
02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:25,800
a fact that there's no way I'm

4040
02:53:29,570 --> 02:53:27,359
remembering that event a hundred percent

4041
02:53:31,730 --> 02:53:29,580
correctly so

4042
02:53:34,370 --> 02:53:31,740
after this event I really started

4043
02:53:36,410 --> 02:53:34,380
questioning my experience and and I'm

4044
02:53:38,330 --> 02:53:36,420
kind of at this point now where it's

4045
02:53:39,650 --> 02:53:38,340
either you know I've got

4046
02:53:40,550 --> 02:53:39,660
I don't know

4047
02:53:44,030 --> 02:53:40,560
um

4048
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:44,040
I it mathematically speaking it's more

4049
02:53:51,410 --> 02:53:47,760
mathematically probable that what I saw

4050
02:53:52,370 --> 02:53:51,420
was a plasma ball

4051
02:53:54,650 --> 02:53:52,380
um

4052
02:53:57,230 --> 02:53:54,660
in the middle of the field and other

4053
02:53:57,889 --> 02:53:57,240
people also saw it

4054
02:54:01,130 --> 02:53:57,899
um

4055
02:54:03,530 --> 02:54:01,140
I I I it's more mathematically possible

4056
02:54:05,990 --> 02:54:03,540
that it's it was more it was more likely

4057
02:54:09,230 --> 02:54:06,000
something like that than it was an alien

4058
02:54:10,389 --> 02:54:09,240
craft coming from another world

4059
02:54:16,309 --> 02:54:10,399
um

4060
02:54:21,530 --> 02:54:18,530
everything that I've done after everyone

4061
02:54:24,349 --> 02:54:21,540
that I've spoken to after some things

4062
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:24,359
that I've heard and things that I've

4063
02:54:27,170 --> 02:54:25,200
seen

4064
02:54:29,870 --> 02:54:27,180
that I can't talk about because they're

4065
02:54:31,790 --> 02:54:29,880
not mine to share

4066
02:54:36,010 --> 02:54:31,800
um

4067
02:54:41,769 --> 02:54:39,830
99 of what people are seeing is U.S

4068
02:54:45,230 --> 02:54:41,779
military Tech

4069
02:54:47,450 --> 02:54:45,240
and I think the stuff people were seeing

4070
02:54:48,710 --> 02:54:47,460
in the 20s and the 30s and the 40s

4071
02:54:51,830 --> 02:54:48,720
because everybody's like oh what about

4072
02:54:52,550 --> 02:54:51,840
the 40s and this and this as well

4073
02:54:55,150 --> 02:54:52,560
um

4074
02:54:59,150 --> 02:54:55,160
I think

4075
02:55:00,650 --> 02:54:59,160
that if there is a phenomenon

4076
02:55:03,950 --> 02:55:00,660
if

4077
02:55:06,290 --> 02:55:03,960
and I'm not saying it's impossible

4078
02:55:08,870 --> 02:55:06,300
but it is improbable

4079
02:55:12,410 --> 02:55:08,880
but let's just say it is real

4080
02:55:13,969 --> 02:55:12,420
let's say the phenomenon is real

4081
02:55:16,130 --> 02:55:13,979
um we're just not going to Define what

4082
02:55:18,650 --> 02:55:16,140
it is but let's say there are craft

4083
02:55:21,290 --> 02:55:18,660
solid craft there are plasma balls there

4084
02:55:23,870 --> 02:55:21,300
are things that move at insanely

4085
02:55:25,969 --> 02:55:23,880
incredible speeds and do insanely

4086
02:55:28,370 --> 02:55:25,979
incredible Maneuvers and people have

4087
02:55:30,950 --> 02:55:28,380
witnessed them not only civilians but

4088
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:30,960
military Witnesses say all of that is

4089
02:55:35,990 --> 02:55:33,120
fact and it's true

4090
02:55:38,389 --> 02:55:36,000
I can promise you that the United States

4091
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:38,399
government has never caught it

4092
02:55:44,570 --> 02:55:41,760
they've never back engineered it they've

4093
02:55:48,769 --> 02:55:44,580
never recovered crashed materials from

4094
02:55:50,090 --> 02:55:48,779
it they've never dissected anything of

4095
02:55:52,910 --> 02:55:50,100
it

4096
02:55:54,950 --> 02:55:52,920
um I can't imagine an intelligence that

4097
02:55:58,190 --> 02:55:54,960
has the capability of traversing

4098
02:55:59,929 --> 02:55:58,200
galaxies would build something that

4099
02:56:03,410 --> 02:55:59,939
would crash

4100
02:56:05,450 --> 02:56:03,420
that seems so [\h__\h] stupid and if they

4101
02:56:06,530 --> 02:56:05,460
do crash how come they don't crash

4102
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:06,540
anymore

4103
02:56:10,969 --> 02:56:08,880
how come they've never crashed in a city

4104
02:56:12,290 --> 02:56:10,979
yeah how come the arguments before it's

4105
02:56:14,150 --> 02:56:12,300
always in the middle of the desert in

4106
02:56:16,309 --> 02:56:14,160
the middle of nowhere yeah it's always

4107
02:56:19,670 --> 02:56:16,319
always something and it's always a

4108
02:56:21,110 --> 02:56:19,680
thirst and here's the thing too is every

4109
02:56:29,100 --> 02:56:21,120
great

4110
02:56:30,590 --> 02:56:29,110
to Roswell to 2017.

4111
02:56:34,070 --> 02:56:30,600
[Music]

4112
02:56:36,469 --> 02:56:34,080
all of them every single one of them in

4113
02:56:40,190 --> 02:56:36,479
one way or another The Narrative was

4114
02:56:41,630 --> 02:56:40,200
either pushed by the Air Force or a

4115
02:56:46,610 --> 02:56:41,640
military entity

4116
02:56:51,230 --> 02:56:46,620
or it had military presence and that's

4117
02:56:54,050 --> 02:56:51,240
where I'm like this is ours and and

4118
02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:54,060
it wouldn't Shock Me

4119
02:57:02,690 --> 02:57:00,080
okay that our military and some very

4120
02:57:05,570 --> 02:57:02,700
compartmentalized people know that the

4121
02:57:08,450 --> 02:57:05,580
phenomenon is real but again they've

4122
02:57:10,790 --> 02:57:08,460
never ever once become close to

4123
02:57:14,269 --> 02:57:10,800
interacting with it or catching it or

4124
02:57:16,010 --> 02:57:14,279
studying it they just can observe

4125
02:57:18,530 --> 02:57:16,020
um I think that's the only thing we have

4126
02:57:22,790 --> 02:57:18,540
the capability to do but

4127
02:57:25,730 --> 02:57:22,800
I think that the military's ability to

4128
02:57:29,330 --> 02:57:25,740
observe these things for the last

4129
02:57:30,429 --> 02:57:29,340
seven eight nine decades

4130
02:57:34,550 --> 02:57:30,439
um

4131
02:57:42,410 --> 02:57:38,030
companies like Lockheed Martin and

4132
02:57:47,330 --> 02:57:42,420
Boeing add the um the department of

4133
02:57:51,290 --> 02:57:47,340
energy to start thinking of ways to

4134
02:57:53,030 --> 02:57:51,300
recreate what they see in their

4135
02:57:54,889 --> 02:57:53,040
instruments

4136
02:57:58,910 --> 02:57:54,899
so I

4137
02:58:04,210 --> 02:57:58,920
it would not Shock me whatsoever if they

4138
02:58:07,969 --> 02:58:04,220
figured out how to make objects maneuver

4139
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:07,979
with uh the seemingly extreme

4140
02:58:14,450 --> 02:58:12,000
capabilities that these things project

4141
02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:14,460
um wouldn't shock me if the technology

4142
02:58:19,730 --> 02:58:17,760
is really simple like it wouldn't shock

4143
02:58:22,730 --> 02:58:19,740
me if it was like

4144
02:58:26,150 --> 02:58:22,740
like oh my god really that's it that's

4145
02:58:28,429 --> 02:58:26,160
how this amazing technology what a

4146
02:58:31,190 --> 02:58:28,439
letdown right like it would be a letdown

4147
02:58:33,170 --> 02:58:31,200
but it would also explain like hey maybe

4148
02:58:35,630 --> 02:58:33,180
we did have craft that move like that in

4149
02:58:38,990 --> 02:58:35,640
the late 60s and the 70s and the 80s and

4150
02:58:43,490 --> 02:58:39,000
the 90s and the early 2000s and now

4151
02:58:47,330 --> 02:58:43,500
um would not Shock me at all so that's

4152
02:58:52,070 --> 02:58:50,389
I'm never I try not to be absolute on

4153
02:58:52,670 --> 02:58:52,080
anything

4154
02:58:55,010 --> 02:58:52,680
um

4155
02:58:57,410 --> 02:58:55,020
you know so I'll leave the window open

4156
02:58:59,330 --> 02:58:57,420
that maybe what I saw and maybe what

4157
02:59:01,429 --> 02:58:59,340
other people are seeing are genuine and

4158
02:59:03,290 --> 02:59:01,439
real and they're and they're confusing

4159
02:59:04,730 --> 02:59:03,300
and sometimes scary

4160
02:59:06,950 --> 02:59:04,740
um but I don't think aliens are

4161
02:59:09,590 --> 02:59:06,960
abducting people I don't think aliens

4162
02:59:12,429 --> 02:59:09,600
are ripping the asses and tongues out of

4163
02:59:18,590 --> 02:59:16,490
story though no I don't think they're

4164
02:59:20,269 --> 02:59:18,600
um I don't think that they're they've

4165
02:59:22,309 --> 02:59:20,279
had secret meetings with our government

4166
02:59:26,330 --> 02:59:22,319
I don't think they're in communication

4167
02:59:28,910 --> 02:59:26,340
with us whatsoever I think it's um you

4168
02:59:31,010 --> 02:59:28,920
know if anything like I love uh uh

4169
02:59:33,590 --> 02:59:31,020
rather sort of uh theory of the Von

4170
02:59:36,050 --> 02:59:33,600
Newman probes it wouldn't shock me if we

4171
02:59:38,090 --> 02:59:36,060
were if we were um you know like a

4172
02:59:39,889 --> 02:59:38,100
panspermia where like a civilization

4173
02:59:42,349 --> 02:59:39,899
sent out a whole bunch of probes that

4174
02:59:45,950 --> 02:59:42,359
can re-replicate wherever they land and

4175
02:59:47,990 --> 02:59:45,960
then you know yeah essentially DNA bombs

4176
02:59:49,730 --> 02:59:48,000
that can replicate and then move on to

4177
02:59:51,769 --> 02:59:49,740
New Star systems you know like it

4178
02:59:53,090 --> 02:59:51,779
wouldn't shock me

4179
02:59:56,150 --> 02:59:53,100
um you know so

4180
02:59:57,769 --> 02:59:56,160
I like I think we're getting into a very

4181
03:00:01,250 --> 02:59:57,779
interesting

4182
03:00:03,469 --> 03:00:01,260
uh time to to

4183
03:00:05,690 --> 03:00:03,479
you know for Humanity I think that

4184
03:00:07,969 --> 03:00:05,700
there's uh we're gonna start really

4185
03:00:09,950 --> 03:00:07,979
asking and maybe even answering some a

4186
03:00:14,389 --> 03:00:09,960
lot of like there's just a lot of weird

4187
03:00:16,309 --> 03:00:14,399
[\h__\h] it's so weird uh and it's and

4188
03:00:18,650 --> 03:00:16,319
um maybe we can start explaining how

4189
03:00:19,309 --> 03:00:18,660
some of these weird things happen

4190
03:00:23,389 --> 03:00:19,319
um

4191
03:00:26,510 --> 03:00:23,399
but I I I just I don't think that the

4192
03:00:28,730 --> 03:00:26,520
narrative that Lou Elizondo is pushing

4193
03:00:31,570 --> 03:00:28,740
um is

4194
03:00:36,830 --> 03:00:31,580
is anything but just

4195
03:00:40,309 --> 03:00:36,840
noise and static to cover military Tech

4196
03:00:42,170 --> 03:00:40,319
and I think part of this initiative

4197
03:00:44,690 --> 03:00:42,180
the part that scares me and the part

4198
03:00:46,429 --> 03:00:44,700
that I'm really kind of ashamed of is I

4199
03:00:49,250 --> 03:00:46,439
might have had a part even though it was

4200
03:00:51,889 --> 03:00:49,260
minuscule minute and these gears were

4201
03:00:54,769 --> 03:00:51,899
probably way in motion way before I ever

4202
03:00:56,990 --> 03:00:54,779
did the big phone home but the idea that

4203
03:01:00,830 --> 03:00:57,000
they're building a state-of-the-art

4204
03:01:01,670 --> 03:01:00,840
billion dollar UFO office

4205
03:01:04,670 --> 03:01:01,680
um

4206
03:01:07,010 --> 03:01:04,680
separate from the Pentagon like that it

4207
03:01:09,889 --> 03:01:07,020
it scares me how this legislation is

4208
03:01:12,410 --> 03:01:09,899
moving through without anybody really

4209
03:01:15,889 --> 03:01:12,420
asking for it and I gotta ask myself why

4210
03:01:17,750 --> 03:01:15,899
you know why are why why

4211
03:01:20,030 --> 03:01:17,760
um there's no impetus there's nobody

4212
03:01:23,269 --> 03:01:20,040
like yeah we did the big phone home but

4213
03:01:25,790 --> 03:01:23,279
I mean let's just say at most it was 20

4214
03:01:28,429 --> 03:01:25,800
000 people right like I can promise you

4215
03:01:29,090 --> 03:01:28,439
there's more people calling Congress you

4216
03:01:32,870 --> 03:01:29,100
know

4217
03:01:35,090 --> 03:01:32,880
about a lot of other things uh that are

4218
03:01:37,190 --> 03:01:35,100
are more important to them than this

4219
03:01:38,990 --> 03:01:37,200
topic and so the idea that the

4220
03:01:41,090 --> 03:01:39,000
government is building a brand new

4221
03:01:43,130 --> 03:01:41,100
office that is

4222
03:01:46,550 --> 03:01:43,140
um as far as I can tell kind of have

4223
03:01:49,389 --> 03:01:46,560
absolutely zero oversight and it's gonna

4224
03:01:52,730 --> 03:01:49,399
have zero um

4225
03:01:54,410 --> 03:01:52,740
responsibility to answer to the public

4226
03:01:56,870 --> 03:01:54,420
um you know that's why for the big phone

4227
03:02:00,830 --> 03:01:56,880
home three we were asking for all of the

4228
03:02:03,530 --> 03:02:00,840
video uh off all full versions of the

4229
03:02:05,510 --> 03:02:03,540
vid of tic tac go fast and gimbal we

4230
03:02:07,969 --> 03:02:05,520
were asking to improve the foia process

4231
03:02:11,510 --> 03:02:07,979
we were asking for

4232
03:02:15,530 --> 03:02:11,520
um for the new uh Arrow office or is it

4233
03:02:17,750 --> 03:02:15,540
Astro or Arrow I I keep changing it so I

4234
03:02:19,190 --> 03:02:17,760
don't even care anymore well whatever

4235
03:02:21,769 --> 03:02:19,200
that's not it

4236
03:02:25,670 --> 03:02:21,779
um we were asking for that office to

4237
03:02:28,610 --> 03:02:25,680
have quarterly public ask me anything

4238
03:02:32,630 --> 03:02:28,620
forums where anybody can come and ask a

4239
03:02:34,309 --> 03:02:32,640
question to uh Kirkpatrick and and uh

4240
03:02:37,309 --> 03:02:34,319
whoever else is going to be running that

4241
03:02:40,429 --> 03:02:37,319
office so you know like I felt like our

4242
03:02:41,389 --> 03:02:40,439
initiatives were super honestly the most

4243
03:02:46,309 --> 03:02:41,399
proud

4244
03:02:48,769 --> 03:02:46,319
the things that we did for big phone

4245
03:02:52,550 --> 03:02:48,779
home three because

4246
03:02:55,849 --> 03:02:52,560
they were initiatives that are that help

4247
03:02:57,290 --> 03:02:55,859
all Americans not just Americans because

4248
03:02:58,730 --> 03:02:57,300
if they're going to be transparent about

4249
03:03:00,410 --> 03:02:58,740
this subject they're going to be forced

4250
03:03:02,690 --> 03:03:00,420
to be transparent about others I agree

4251
03:03:03,769 --> 03:03:02,700
but I mean look we're asking to improve

4252
03:03:06,469 --> 03:03:03,779
foia

4253
03:03:09,349 --> 03:03:06,479
that's something that all Americans

4254
03:03:10,670 --> 03:03:09,359
should want all Americans should want

4255
03:03:14,269 --> 03:03:10,680
that

4256
03:03:16,190 --> 03:03:14,279
means we can get more accurate news

4257
03:03:17,630 --> 03:03:16,200
especially when it comes from our

4258
03:03:19,309 --> 03:03:17,640
government

4259
03:03:21,469 --> 03:03:19,319
um you know and we we could get more

4260
03:03:23,990 --> 03:03:21,479
people more John greenwald's I think is

4261
03:03:26,870 --> 03:03:24,000
better for the discussion not less I

4262
03:03:30,110 --> 03:03:26,880
would clone that dude if I could yeah oh

4263
03:03:32,330 --> 03:03:30,120
my God so would I so would I do you know

4264
03:03:35,450 --> 03:03:32,340
did you know this about him that every

4265
03:03:37,670 --> 03:03:35,460
that the government actually has a list

4266
03:03:41,210 --> 03:03:37,680
of the people who do the most foia

4267
03:03:43,309 --> 03:03:41,220
requests and he's on it he's on it every

4268
03:03:45,530 --> 03:03:43,319
year for making for being one of the

4269
03:03:48,349 --> 03:03:45,540
people and here's something that people

4270
03:03:51,050 --> 03:03:48,359
don't know about him but I do because I

4271
03:03:54,650 --> 03:03:51,060
happen to know somebody who works in in

4272
03:03:59,570 --> 03:03:54,660
the government they said that John

4273
03:04:02,330 --> 03:03:59,580
Greenwald is known to so many different

4274
03:04:04,670 --> 03:04:02,340
members of government that don't like

4275
03:04:07,610 --> 03:04:04,680
the secrets getting out like they see

4276
03:04:09,950 --> 03:04:07,620
what he does and they see all thousands

4277
03:04:12,530 --> 03:04:09,960
tens of thousands however many thousands

4278
03:04:14,450 --> 03:04:12,540
of requests he makes and they go oh this

4279
03:04:16,969 --> 03:04:14,460
greenwolf guy from The Black Vault again

4280
03:04:20,030 --> 03:04:16,979
and even people who work within the foia

4281
03:04:23,090 --> 03:04:20,040
office all know who he is they all know

4282
03:04:25,190 --> 03:04:23,100
him they all you know it's amazing that

4283
03:04:26,630 --> 03:04:25,200
is amazing well I want to thank you for

4284
03:04:29,090 --> 03:04:26,640
coming here I'm sorry I didn't even

4285
03:04:30,710 --> 03:04:29,100
realize we went so far over too no no I

4286
03:04:32,570 --> 03:04:30,720
was I was late man I'm here as long as

4287
03:04:34,670 --> 03:04:32,580
you want me honestly no no I don't want

4288
03:04:35,990 --> 03:04:34,680
to keep you yeah I want to thank and I

4289
03:04:37,730 --> 03:04:36,000
hope you won't be a stranger you're

4290
03:04:39,530 --> 03:04:37,740
always welcome here and we are going to

4291
03:04:41,570 --> 03:04:39,540
be doing some some different things

4292
03:04:44,090 --> 03:04:41,580
where I think that you would have a good

4293
03:04:45,590 --> 03:04:44,100
time you know yeah I know man um yeah

4294
03:04:46,910 --> 03:04:45,600
let me know if I've got the time I'll be

4295
03:04:48,830 --> 03:04:46,920
more than happy to come on uh somebody

4296
03:04:50,030 --> 03:04:48,840
had a question here Craig William what

4297
03:04:52,190 --> 03:04:50,040
what's Lee's take on Tennessee

4298
03:04:53,150 --> 03:04:52,200
Congressman Tim burchett and ezekiel's

4299
03:04:54,830 --> 03:04:53,160
wheel

4300
03:04:56,389 --> 03:04:54,840
um we had Tim birchett on the big phone

4301
03:04:57,349 --> 03:04:56,399
home too

4302
03:04:59,750 --> 03:04:57,359
um

4303
03:05:01,550 --> 03:04:59,760
I really hate his politics it's very

4304
03:05:03,889 --> 03:05:01,560
difficult for me to take him seriously

4305
03:05:06,170 --> 03:05:03,899
when he wants to restrict the rights of

4306
03:05:07,610 --> 03:05:06,180
women's reproductive systems this is did

4307
03:05:09,469 --> 03:05:07,620
you ever live did you ever think you

4308
03:05:12,110 --> 03:05:09,479
would live to see this happen

4309
03:05:16,070 --> 03:05:12,120
no I never thought I would live to see

4310
03:05:18,530 --> 03:05:16,080
that happen no I I it's it's amazing

4311
03:05:20,530 --> 03:05:18,540
what disgusting Behavior the UFO

4312
03:05:23,090 --> 03:05:20,540
Community will just shovel to the side

4313
03:05:25,070 --> 03:05:23,100
if they get the message they want to

4314
03:05:27,969 --> 03:05:25,080
hear they don't care if he wants to

4315
03:05:31,670 --> 03:05:27,979
control the boys

4316
03:05:34,370 --> 03:05:31,680
[\h__\h] they don't care you could be you

4317
03:05:37,750 --> 03:05:34,380
could literally be a Nazi

4318
03:05:40,670 --> 03:05:37,760
um but if you're saying the right things

4319
03:05:43,010 --> 03:05:40,680
yeah that make me feel good about my

4320
03:05:45,650 --> 03:05:43,020
belief system I am with you a hundred

4321
03:05:47,330 --> 03:05:45,660
percent and this guy this guy over here

4322
03:05:49,670 --> 03:05:47,340
who's an actual journalist who's

4323
03:05:51,950 --> 03:05:49,680
actually been doing good work he said

4324
03:05:54,710 --> 03:05:51,960
the thing that I don't like so therefore

4325
03:05:55,849 --> 03:05:54,720
uh he's a scumbag or he's this or

4326
03:05:58,130 --> 03:05:55,859
whatever

4327
03:06:01,190 --> 03:05:58,140
um it's wild dude it's absolutely

4328
03:06:04,910 --> 03:06:01,200
batshit crazy to me that people will put

4329
03:06:06,830 --> 03:06:04,920
aside uh really discussing behavior and

4330
03:06:09,110 --> 03:06:06,840
and to be fair

4331
03:06:12,170 --> 03:06:09,120
I didn't know much about Tim birchett

4332
03:06:14,870 --> 03:06:12,180
when he came on the show we had um it

4333
03:06:17,510 --> 03:06:14,880
was Dan Warren who who linked us up with

4334
03:06:19,130 --> 03:06:17,520
him uh because Dan is a constituent of

4335
03:06:21,050 --> 03:06:19,140
his in Tennessee and he's like hey I

4336
03:06:22,849 --> 03:06:21,060
think I could get you a congress I was

4337
03:06:24,230 --> 03:06:22,859
like that's [\h__\h] great you know if I

4338
03:06:25,730 --> 03:06:24,240
could get one Congressman on maybe we

4339
03:06:27,290 --> 03:06:25,740
get a couple more

4340
03:06:29,210 --> 03:06:27,300
um and then I started looking to

4341
03:06:31,610 --> 03:06:29,220
timberjit after the big photo I was like

4342
03:06:33,889 --> 03:06:31,620
oh my God yeah

4343
03:06:38,450 --> 03:06:33,899
um yeah I wish I'd known that

4344
03:06:40,790 --> 03:06:38,460
um you know but uh but again it should

4345
03:06:43,610 --> 03:06:40,800
like

4346
03:06:47,090 --> 03:06:43,620
the philosophy behind the big phone home

4347
03:06:48,469 --> 03:06:47,100
too was or the original big phone home

4348
03:06:52,309 --> 03:06:48,479
was

4349
03:06:56,750 --> 03:06:52,319
I believed and I still do to to a point

4350
03:07:00,230 --> 03:06:56,760
that UFOs the the topic is insanely

4351
03:07:02,210 --> 03:07:00,240
bipartisan because you had on one end of

4352
03:07:04,670 --> 03:07:02,220
the political Spectrum you have a Marco

4353
03:07:08,330 --> 03:07:04,680
Rubio who is a Conservative Republican

4354
03:07:10,130 --> 03:07:08,340
who's into and is talking about UFOs and

4355
03:07:12,230 --> 03:07:10,140
on the opposite end of that political

4356
03:07:15,050 --> 03:07:12,240
Spectrum you had you know Hillary

4357
03:07:17,929 --> 03:07:15,060
Clinton uh you know having emails with

4358
03:07:19,730 --> 03:07:17,939
with uh Tom Delong John podesta and

4359
03:07:22,910 --> 03:07:19,740
walking out of meetings with books about

4360
03:07:25,309 --> 03:07:22,920
UFOs in her hands you know so like I in

4361
03:07:27,830 --> 03:07:25,319
my brain I was like well [\h__\h] if I could

4362
03:07:29,870 --> 03:07:27,840
put Marco Rubio and Hillary Clinton in a

4363
03:07:32,030 --> 03:07:29,880
room together for let's say four hours

4364
03:07:34,010 --> 03:07:32,040
and I could say all right guys for the

4365
03:07:36,530 --> 03:07:34,020
first three hours you're only allowed to

4366
03:07:38,870 --> 03:07:36,540
talk about the UFO phenomenon in UFOs

4367
03:07:41,570 --> 03:07:38,880
and then hour four you could talk about

4368
03:07:44,530 --> 03:07:41,580
whatever you want I think that fourth

4369
03:07:47,570 --> 03:07:44,540
hour would be so much more respectful

4370
03:07:50,630 --> 03:07:47,580
and so much more

4371
03:07:52,550 --> 03:07:50,640
um by partisan because they found this

4372
03:07:55,790 --> 03:07:52,560
common ground of something they're both

4373
03:07:59,450 --> 03:07:55,800
interested in so to me I was like you

4374
03:08:00,769 --> 03:07:59,460
know I I don't you know like if you're a

4375
03:08:01,550 --> 03:08:00,779
political

4376
03:08:09,290 --> 03:08:01,560
um

4377
03:08:12,110 --> 03:08:09,300
you know like I want to talk to all of

4378
03:08:14,090 --> 03:08:12,120
you because if I'm if I if that's my

4379
03:08:15,410 --> 03:08:14,100
philosophy a bipartisanship then it

4380
03:08:18,469 --> 03:08:15,420
shouldn't really matter who's on the

4381
03:08:21,050 --> 03:08:18,479
show and and if I could have let's say I

4382
03:08:22,670 --> 03:08:21,060
could have I could take that same

4383
03:08:28,190 --> 03:08:22,680
um

4384
03:08:29,750 --> 03:08:28,200
and Luis Jimenez you guys sit in a room

4385
03:08:31,130 --> 03:08:29,760
for four hours and for the first three

4386
03:08:34,670 --> 03:08:31,140
hours you're only allowed to talk about

4387
03:08:36,530 --> 03:08:34,680
UFOs I think I mean if I know like Tim

4388
03:08:38,750 --> 03:08:36,540
Burton I know that he eats great

4389
03:08:40,990 --> 03:08:38,760
barbecue I know that

4390
03:08:43,849 --> 03:08:41,000
um he's got a real Tennessee

4391
03:08:46,370 --> 03:08:43,859
yeah he's got a really sexy southern

4392
03:08:48,349 --> 03:08:46,380
draw like there's a lot of funny things

4393
03:08:50,990 --> 03:08:48,359
about Tim burchett that I like from a

4394
03:08:52,309 --> 03:08:51,000
from from a person and just talk sitting

4395
03:08:53,630 --> 03:08:52,319
there talking about UFOs I think the

4396
03:08:56,809 --> 03:08:53,640
first three hours would be a lot of fun

4397
03:08:58,730 --> 03:08:56,819
and then that fourth hour I think it'd

4398
03:09:00,769 --> 03:08:58,740
be a lot easier to talk to him about

4399
03:09:04,190 --> 03:09:00,779
okay well dude like why do you believe

4400
03:09:06,290 --> 03:09:04,200
about why why are you like this when it

4401
03:09:08,690 --> 03:09:06,300
comes to this or you know I think that

4402
03:09:11,570 --> 03:09:08,700
those those really hard conversations

4403
03:09:13,910 --> 03:09:11,580
are a lot easier to have if you could

4404
03:09:15,889 --> 03:09:13,920
find the common ground first and then

4405
03:09:18,469 --> 03:09:15,899
move forward and then if you you find

4406
03:09:19,969 --> 03:09:18,479
that common ground and and you could

4407
03:09:22,370 --> 03:09:19,979
both come to a place where you're being

4408
03:09:24,170 --> 03:09:22,380
reasonable and rational and then you

4409
03:09:26,510 --> 03:09:24,180
continue the conversation into the more

4410
03:09:28,190 --> 03:09:26,520
uncomfortable things and at the end of

4411
03:09:30,410 --> 03:09:28,200
that conversation you still don't see

4412
03:09:32,269 --> 03:09:30,420
eye to eye at least I could walk away

4413
03:09:34,670 --> 03:09:32,279
and go well okay I respect you I just

4414
03:09:36,889 --> 03:09:34,680
vehemently disagree with you

4415
03:09:39,769 --> 03:09:36,899
um you know and we can have them that's

4416
03:09:44,870 --> 03:09:39,779
the way it should be right to disagree

4417
03:09:47,210 --> 03:09:44,880
on Sir so so when I when so I

4418
03:09:49,250 --> 03:09:47,220
you know I can kind of if you're going

4419
03:09:52,250 --> 03:09:49,260
into it that way I can kind of

4420
03:09:54,650 --> 03:09:52,260
understand you know like the idea of

4421
03:09:56,150 --> 03:09:54,660
okay I'm gonna put away these these

4422
03:09:58,550 --> 03:09:56,160
things that I really don't like about

4423
03:09:59,990 --> 03:09:58,560
him and I'm going to listen to what he

4424
03:10:01,130 --> 03:10:00,000
says about the things I really want to

4425
03:10:03,710 --> 03:10:01,140
hear about

4426
03:10:05,690 --> 03:10:03,720
and you know I think if I had the

4427
03:10:08,210 --> 03:10:05,700
opportunity to talk to him I think if we

4428
03:10:10,670 --> 03:10:08,220
had that four hour window I think I

4429
03:10:12,230 --> 03:10:10,680
would walk away going you know what

4430
03:10:14,510 --> 03:10:12,240
man his

4431
03:10:17,150 --> 03:10:14,520
we talked about I mean who knows maybe I

4432
03:10:19,550 --> 03:10:17,160
could change his mind who knows but like

4433
03:10:21,110 --> 03:10:19,560
I I could walk away go well hell at

4434
03:10:23,330 --> 03:10:21,120
least I tried you know at least I know

4435
03:10:26,690 --> 03:10:23,340
who he is where he stands and this is

4436
03:10:30,469 --> 03:10:26,700
where we clearly disagree but here's

4437
03:10:31,849 --> 03:10:30,479
where we do agree and okay so instead of

4438
03:10:33,469 --> 03:10:31,859
focusing on the things of where we

4439
03:10:35,690 --> 03:10:33,479
disagree let's focus on the things where

4440
03:10:38,150 --> 03:10:35,700
we agree and how can we build how can we

4441
03:10:40,370 --> 03:10:38,160
make each other better on those on the

4442
03:10:42,830 --> 03:10:40,380
common ground and so that was the

4443
03:10:46,010 --> 03:10:42,840
philosophy behind big phone home and and

4444
03:10:47,870 --> 03:10:46,020
that's what I pitched to everyone who

4445
03:10:49,550 --> 03:10:47,880
was a part of it you know because the

4446
03:10:51,170 --> 03:10:49,560
biggest one of the biggest things that

4447
03:10:53,929 --> 03:10:51,180
was um

4448
03:10:56,389 --> 03:10:53,939
a problem for the first one home was

4449
03:10:59,450 --> 03:10:56,399
Jeremy Corbell was really scared to come

4450
03:11:03,110 --> 03:10:59,460
on because I was also having Jeremy

4451
03:11:04,429 --> 03:11:03,120
Reese on on the show as well he doesn't

4452
03:11:06,250 --> 03:11:04,439
want to he doesn't want to go anywhere

4453
03:11:08,450 --> 03:11:06,260
near that guy or no

4454
03:11:10,849 --> 03:11:08,460
it would have been the same way with me

4455
03:11:13,010 --> 03:11:10,859
too yeah well I didn't know I didn't

4456
03:11:14,809 --> 03:11:13,020
know who you were when I did the first

4457
03:11:17,510 --> 03:11:14,819
phone home you know and I didn't care

4458
03:11:19,429 --> 03:11:17,520
like I was like you know I I was like

4459
03:11:21,230 --> 03:11:19,439
dude anybody who's willing to help I'm

4460
03:11:23,570 --> 03:11:21,240
willing to talk to you

4461
03:11:25,670 --> 03:11:23,580
um and so that's I had to sit there and

4462
03:11:27,050 --> 03:11:25,680
tell Jeremy Corbell like all of these

4463
03:11:29,090 --> 03:11:27,060
things that I just told you I was just

4464
03:11:30,590 --> 03:11:29,100
like look here's the philosophy this is

4465
03:11:32,389 --> 03:11:30,600
what we're trying to do like I

4466
03:11:34,429 --> 03:11:32,399
understand you know and he's like well

4467
03:11:35,929 --> 03:11:34,439
who came who came to you first did you

4468
03:11:38,570 --> 03:11:35,939
go to him or did he come to you I was

4469
03:11:40,309 --> 03:11:38,580
like nah dude I went to him like but I

4470
03:11:42,170 --> 03:11:40,319
didn't and then he filled me in on some

4471
03:11:43,250 --> 03:11:42,180
of uh Jeremy's background and some of

4472
03:11:45,410 --> 03:11:43,260
the things he's gotten in trouble for

4473
03:11:47,570 --> 03:11:45,420
and then I talked to Jeremy about those

4474
03:11:49,849 --> 03:11:47,580
things and him and I had a discussion on

4475
03:11:53,170 --> 03:11:49,859
his show about some of these things and

4476
03:11:58,790 --> 03:11:55,610
successful business owner father of

4477
03:12:00,710 --> 03:11:58,800
children you know everybody has a

4478
03:12:02,590 --> 03:12:00,720
tendency to

4479
03:12:07,130 --> 03:12:02,600
yeah

4480
03:12:09,710 --> 03:12:07,140
to his Bob Lazar research no not not not

4481
03:12:11,929 --> 03:12:09,720
at all but also not only that I mean

4482
03:12:14,690 --> 03:12:11,939
look like for me and this is what I told

4483
03:12:18,110 --> 03:12:14,700
Jeremy I'm like look I don't know

4484
03:12:19,849 --> 03:12:18,120
Mr Reese like you do he hasn't shown me

4485
03:12:22,969 --> 03:12:19,859
any of those things that you've

4486
03:12:26,030 --> 03:12:22,979
mentioned and if and I told him you know

4487
03:12:26,750 --> 03:12:26,040
if what you're saying is true

4488
03:12:30,170 --> 03:12:26,760
um

4489
03:12:32,150 --> 03:12:30,180
and he you know he got in trouble and he

4490
03:12:34,490 --> 03:12:32,160
had to serve time for the thing that he

4491
03:12:37,730 --> 03:12:34,500
did and he served his time and now he's

4492
03:12:40,969 --> 03:12:37,740
out he's repaid his debt or however he

4493
03:12:43,790 --> 03:12:40,979
paid his debt to society he paid it he

4494
03:12:45,050 --> 03:12:43,800
[\h__\h] he was he was he was judged by a

4495
03:12:47,870 --> 03:12:45,060
jury of his peers

4496
03:12:49,550 --> 03:12:47,880
he served his time he repaid his debt

4497
03:12:51,710 --> 03:12:49,560
and now he's allowed to come back into

4498
03:12:54,830 --> 03:12:51,720
society and yes he's allowed to have

4499
03:12:56,929 --> 03:12:54,840
opinions like and a lot of people don't

4500
03:13:00,290 --> 03:12:56,939
like that and um

4501
03:13:02,389 --> 03:13:00,300
and you know but that's but once I I

4502
03:13:04,010 --> 03:13:02,399
explain to him you know like again the

4503
03:13:05,510 --> 03:13:04,020
philosophies and why I'm doing this and

4504
03:13:07,670 --> 03:13:05,520
why I think it was important for both of

4505
03:13:13,690 --> 03:13:07,680
them to do this was because hey this is

4506
03:13:18,170 --> 03:13:15,769
I would have loved it if you would have

4507
03:13:21,110 --> 03:13:18,180
punked him like bring on Korbel you know

4508
03:13:24,170 --> 03:13:21,120
and then you then go joining us now to

4509
03:13:26,349 --> 03:13:24,180
talk to corpelle oh my God Jeremy reads

4510
03:13:29,929 --> 03:13:26,359
alien scientists I would have paid money

4511
03:13:32,210 --> 03:13:29,939
so dude he was so afraid of that Jeremy

4512
03:13:34,370 --> 03:13:32,220
has been he was afraid I was going to be

4513
03:13:36,769 --> 03:13:34,380
challenging him to debate him for

4514
03:13:39,889 --> 03:13:36,779
several years and and Korbel won't do it

4515
03:13:42,170 --> 03:13:39,899
and uh you know yeah well you know

4516
03:13:43,790 --> 03:13:42,180
that's it that's the way it is you know

4517
03:13:46,790 --> 03:13:43,800
right well it's but here's the thing

4518
03:13:51,469 --> 03:13:49,309
um I think if you're looking for

4519
03:13:54,110 --> 03:13:51,479
interviews like that

4520
03:13:56,150 --> 03:13:54,120
you have to be really tactful

4521
03:13:58,070 --> 03:13:56,160
you can be really careful in how you

4522
03:14:01,010 --> 03:13:58,080
talk about the person you're asking for

4523
03:14:04,969 --> 03:14:01,020
some something from you know so like if

4524
03:14:06,710 --> 03:14:04,979
you're trying you know so like

4525
03:14:07,990 --> 03:14:06,720
you know if he doesn't do your show

4526
03:14:10,550 --> 03:14:08,000
because

4527
03:14:12,410 --> 03:14:10,560
you're [\h__\h] cursing him at the top of

4528
03:14:14,389 --> 03:14:12,420
your lungs every show

4529
03:14:16,429 --> 03:14:14,399
yeah okay I understand why he doesn't

4530
03:14:17,570 --> 03:14:16,439
want to come to your show like I totally

4531
03:14:19,670 --> 03:14:17,580
get it

4532
03:14:21,590 --> 03:14:19,680
um and he doesn't owe you that he

4533
03:14:23,929 --> 03:14:21,600
doesn't he doesn't owe a [\h__\h] just like

4534
03:14:26,389 --> 03:14:23,939
Lou Elizondo doesn't owe us anything he

4535
03:14:28,490 --> 03:14:26,399
doesn't have to do anything this isn't

4536
03:14:30,710 --> 03:14:28,500
uh you know communist country we can't

4537
03:14:32,450 --> 03:14:30,720
force people to do things you know we

4538
03:14:33,889 --> 03:14:32,460
could just put the impetus on them we

4539
03:14:36,830 --> 03:14:33,899
can ask them

4540
03:14:39,530 --> 03:14:36,840
um you know we can request but to demand

4541
03:14:43,550 --> 03:14:39,540
like nobody has the right to do that

4542
03:14:46,010 --> 03:14:43,560
you know you just don't and so

4543
03:14:47,870 --> 03:14:46,020
um but yeah you know it is interesting

4544
03:14:49,730 --> 03:14:47,880
that you were able to get people that

4545
03:14:52,370 --> 03:14:49,740
really hate each other's guts to still

4546
03:14:55,309 --> 03:14:52,380
appear together at the same event and

4547
03:14:58,929 --> 03:14:55,319
you you you should be a diplomat for

4548
03:15:03,170 --> 03:14:58,939
somebody like this is yeah this is crazy

4549
03:15:05,269 --> 03:15:03,180
yeah no it was and yeah I mean Jeremy

4550
03:15:06,410 --> 03:15:05,279
Corbell said something similar to me you

4551
03:15:07,309 --> 03:15:06,420
know

4552
03:15:09,950 --> 03:15:07,319
um

4553
03:15:11,870 --> 03:15:09,960
after it was all done but like yeah but

4554
03:15:14,030 --> 03:15:11,880
uh

4555
03:15:16,969 --> 03:15:14,040
yeah just it

4556
03:15:19,370 --> 03:15:16,979
it's it's

4557
03:15:21,950 --> 03:15:19,380
sad because a lot I feel like a lot of

4558
03:15:24,050 --> 03:15:21,960
people are being taken for a ride and I

4559
03:15:25,910 --> 03:15:24,060
want to call them out

4560
03:15:28,130 --> 03:15:25,920
um but honestly I don't know if I have

4561
03:15:31,030 --> 03:15:28,140
the energy and I don't know if I want to

4562
03:15:34,190 --> 03:15:31,040
put I do have the energy

4563
03:15:36,110 --> 03:15:34,200
yeah and it gets like whack-a-mole you

4564
03:15:39,190 --> 03:15:36,120
know they come back even even like

4565
03:15:41,750 --> 03:15:39,200
well-known proven hoaxers like this job

4566
03:15:43,610 --> 03:15:41,760
they wait 10 years and then they come

4567
03:15:45,050 --> 03:15:43,620
back and they're right you know like oh

4568
03:15:48,050 --> 03:15:45,060
yeah nobody knows who they are yeah but

4569
03:15:51,410 --> 03:15:48,060
but I mean even like look you can make

4570
03:15:53,269 --> 03:15:51,420
you can make videos until you're blue in

4571
03:15:56,330 --> 03:15:53,279
the face about how third phase of moon

4572
03:15:58,550 --> 03:15:56,340
rips people off lots of people are a

4573
03:16:03,650 --> 03:15:58,560
bunch of hoaxers and you're gonna have

4574
03:16:06,889 --> 03:16:03,660
people like rich rich uh rich with the

4575
03:16:09,110 --> 03:16:06,899
uh The house's last name goofan

4576
03:16:10,450 --> 03:16:09,120
um you're gonna have people that just

4577
03:16:15,830 --> 03:16:10,460
refuse

4578
03:16:17,349 --> 03:16:15,840
they're they're just Blissful about it

4579
03:16:20,090 --> 03:16:17,359
they're just like

4580
03:16:21,469 --> 03:16:20,100
you know you know doing this with their

4581
03:16:23,570 --> 03:16:21,479
ears

4582
03:16:25,370 --> 03:16:23,580
um and it's just like you know like I

4583
03:16:27,769 --> 03:16:25,380
like I told you in a private message

4584
03:16:29,750 --> 03:16:27,779
like you could lead the horses to water

4585
03:16:32,870 --> 03:16:29,760
but some horses just want to drink out

4586
03:16:36,349 --> 03:16:32,880
of a mud pit all right yeah okay you

4587
03:16:39,590 --> 03:16:36,359
know like go for it and and so

4588
03:16:41,750 --> 03:16:39,600
you know that's why I I I I I'll

4589
03:16:44,150 --> 03:16:41,760
probably leave unless I completely

4590
03:16:46,070 --> 03:16:44,160
Rebrand the show I'll probably just

4591
03:16:48,469 --> 03:16:46,080
leave the videos up as sort of just a

4592
03:16:51,170 --> 03:16:48,479
timeline of how someone goes from the

4593
03:16:52,190 --> 03:16:51,180
most supportive positive

4594
03:16:56,389 --> 03:16:52,200
um

4595
03:17:00,469 --> 03:16:56,399
uh bipartisan effort in person to the

4596
03:17:02,990 --> 03:17:00,479
most cynical bitter and angry you know

4597
03:17:05,210 --> 03:17:03,000
like and it was that would make a great

4598
03:17:07,550 --> 03:17:05,220
movie and you've got to fulfill them

4599
03:17:09,590 --> 03:17:07,560
most of it you just sit in between the

4600
03:17:11,090 --> 03:17:09,600
clips and explain this [\h__\h] and go

4601
03:17:14,389 --> 03:17:11,100
through the whole thing but make a great

4602
03:17:16,190 --> 03:17:14,399
movie yeah no I trust me I know I've got

4603
03:17:18,170 --> 03:17:16,200
I've already started working on the

4604
03:17:19,250 --> 03:17:18,180
script for my first video if I was going

4605
03:17:21,469 --> 03:17:19,260
to come back

4606
03:17:23,389 --> 03:17:21,479
um but it's just like you know it's so

4607
03:17:27,050 --> 03:17:23,399
much work and I'm like [\h__\h] dude do I

4608
03:17:30,410 --> 03:17:27,060
want to do this once a month not really

4609
03:17:32,210 --> 03:17:30,420
um you know uh and and and even when I

4610
03:17:35,510 --> 03:17:32,220
do put this video out it's not going to

4611
03:17:37,849 --> 03:17:35,520
convince the folks that I'm trying to

4612
03:17:39,050 --> 03:17:37,859
you know literally grab by the shoulder

4613
03:17:41,330 --> 03:17:39,060
and shake the [\h__\h] out of him and go

4614
03:17:43,730 --> 03:17:41,340
well you know smack him in the face wake

4615
03:17:45,710 --> 03:17:43,740
up you know like kind of like that movie

4616
03:17:47,750 --> 03:17:45,720
Airplane where they're just smashing

4617
03:17:50,150 --> 03:17:47,760
they're all smacking you know yeah you

4618
03:17:50,990 --> 03:17:50,160
know like yes it's just

4619
03:17:53,510 --> 03:17:51,000
um

4620
03:17:57,230 --> 03:17:53,520
you know why am I gonna why am I gonna

4621
03:17:59,269 --> 03:17:57,240
put my my efforts into that it's yeah I

4622
03:18:00,769 --> 03:17:59,279
feel kind of silly for this I feel kind

4623
03:18:04,250 --> 03:18:00,779
of silly for this third face thing

4624
03:18:06,769 --> 03:18:04,260
because it is I I'm putting together

4625
03:18:08,750 --> 03:18:06,779
this whole thing and I'll go this is so

4626
03:18:11,690 --> 03:18:08,760
much energy and you know I could have

4627
03:18:14,090 --> 03:18:11,700
played with my kids with that time or I

4628
03:18:17,510 --> 03:18:14,100
could have anything more meaningful than

4629
03:18:19,630 --> 03:18:17,520
this nonsense so yeah I totally feel you

4630
03:18:22,429 --> 03:18:19,640
on that yeah

4631
03:18:25,670 --> 03:18:22,439
it's it's tough man it's tough I'm like

4632
03:18:29,030 --> 03:18:25,680
I'm very very very torn

4633
03:18:31,790 --> 03:18:29,040
about what I want to do and I mean in in

4634
03:18:34,670 --> 03:18:31,800
conversations like this sort of help me

4635
03:18:36,170 --> 03:18:34,680
navigate through my you know I think if

4636
03:18:38,809 --> 03:18:36,180
you should focus on like I said like

4637
03:18:41,389 --> 03:18:38,819
what what is it that was fun and what

4638
03:18:43,910 --> 03:18:41,399
did you enjoy and just do that and the

4639
03:18:46,190 --> 03:18:43,920
rest of the [\h__\h] can go by the wayside

4640
03:18:48,590 --> 03:18:46,200
that's what I'm trying to do but it just

4641
03:18:50,570 --> 03:18:48,600
it's you know it's a slow process it's

4642
03:18:52,670 --> 03:18:50,580
it's tough I mean obviously I still have

4643
03:18:55,030 --> 03:18:52,680
kind of one foot in the social media

4644
03:18:59,090 --> 03:18:55,040
like at this point I'm just out to troll

4645
03:19:01,790 --> 03:18:59,100
everybody you know like I I it's it's

4646
03:19:04,730 --> 03:19:01,800
funny like I I the last this last

4647
03:19:08,210 --> 03:19:04,740
weekend there was this one [\h__\h]

4648
03:19:10,670 --> 03:19:08,220
um e.t.com uh oh that guy's a [\h__\h]

4649
03:19:14,269 --> 03:19:10,680
he's such an [\h__\h] so I was like I'm

4650
03:19:16,370 --> 03:19:14,279
just so tired but but I I can't like

4651
03:19:19,150 --> 03:19:16,380
I have to answer it's just something

4652
03:19:21,710 --> 03:19:19,160
inside of me where I gotta [\h__\h]

4653
03:19:23,990 --> 03:19:21,720
and so I came up with a meeting never

4654
03:19:26,330 --> 03:19:24,000
see that Meme somebody's wait hold on

4655
03:19:29,450 --> 03:19:26,340
somebody's wrong on the internet you

4656
03:19:32,330 --> 03:19:29,460
know yeah yeah yeah I do that myself and

4657
03:19:34,309 --> 03:19:32,340
I try not to I don't know if you saw the

4658
03:19:36,950 --> 03:19:34,319
the memes that I started putting out

4659
03:19:39,110 --> 03:19:36,960
last night but over the weekend there

4660
03:19:43,250 --> 03:19:39,120
was a uh the the baseball playoffs are

4661
03:19:45,710 --> 03:19:43,260
going on and there was a uh there's uh

4662
03:19:48,650 --> 03:19:45,720
they caught in one of the broadcast in

4663
03:19:50,750 --> 03:19:48,660
the San Diego LA game where La uh San

4664
03:19:52,550 --> 03:19:50,760
Diego beats the Dodgers and they they're

4665
03:19:55,550 --> 03:19:52,560
they got these guys in the stands and

4666
03:19:57,769 --> 03:19:55,560
the San Diego fans are high-fiving and

4667
03:20:01,190 --> 03:19:57,779
then he turns to look at this La fan who

4668
03:20:02,170 --> 03:20:01,200
turned around and he's like well damn uh

4669
03:20:06,290 --> 03:20:02,180
so

4670
03:20:09,190 --> 03:20:06,300
I've taken that Meme and I've just put

4671
03:20:16,809 --> 03:20:11,990
there you go there you go that's that's

4672
03:20:25,370 --> 03:20:21,969
so I've now I've got the lead

4673
03:20:27,410 --> 03:20:25,380
I put the Rugrats music to it like I

4674
03:20:31,269 --> 03:20:27,420
I've probably got now like five or six

4675
03:20:34,790 --> 03:20:31,279
of these ready to go in my phone

4676
03:20:36,950 --> 03:20:34,800
no I got a message from UFO Joe anytime

4677
03:20:39,950 --> 03:20:36,960
I get a message from goof on anytime I

4678
03:20:43,070 --> 03:20:39,960
get a message from from this idiot.com

4679
03:20:46,450 --> 03:20:43,080
I've got the meme ready to go and that's

4680
03:20:49,190 --> 03:20:46,460
my response now forever

4681
03:20:52,969 --> 03:20:49,200
to do it yeah I get I get the

4682
03:20:55,610 --> 03:20:52,979
satisfaction of responding but

4683
03:20:57,170 --> 03:20:55,620
this will take you an hour to write it

4684
03:21:00,230 --> 03:20:57,180
it doesn't take me an hour but not only

4685
03:21:02,269 --> 03:21:00,240
that they can't respond to that and even

4686
03:21:04,849 --> 03:21:02,279
if they do I just respond with the exact

4687
03:21:07,910 --> 03:21:04,859
same Meme and it's like it kills their

4688
03:21:10,429 --> 03:21:07,920
conversation and their [\h__\h] so fast

4689
03:21:12,710 --> 03:21:10,439
and I'm like God you know like I just

4690
03:21:14,990 --> 03:21:12,720
needed a little time to formulate like

4691
03:21:18,230 --> 03:21:15,000
because I don't mean to toot my own horn

4692
03:21:20,769 --> 03:21:18,240
but I'm pretty [\h__\h] funny and you're

4693
03:21:25,130 --> 03:21:20,779
not going though

4694
03:21:28,370 --> 03:21:25,140
you're never funny yeah I know but but I

4695
03:21:30,070 --> 03:21:28,380
compared a 45-minute set tonight or

4696
03:21:35,090 --> 03:21:30,080
something

4697
03:21:36,889 --> 03:21:35,100
well I I I I don't [\h__\h] with me you're

4698
03:21:38,330 --> 03:21:36,899
not gonna win you're just you're not

4699
03:21:40,610 --> 03:21:38,340
gonna win

4700
03:21:42,830 --> 03:21:40,620
um just just [\h__\h] go home take your

4701
03:21:45,110 --> 03:21:42,840
ball and get the [\h__\h] off my court

4702
03:21:47,269 --> 03:21:45,120
um because you're not going to be a

4703
03:21:50,750 --> 03:21:47,279
better smart ass than me you're just not

4704
03:21:52,550 --> 03:21:50,760
you're not and uh and so you know if

4705
03:21:56,330 --> 03:21:52,560
you've got something nasty to say about

4706
03:21:59,030 --> 03:21:56,340
me I will [\h__\h] respond in kind

4707
03:22:00,650 --> 03:21:59,040
um and if you but if you really like

4708
03:22:02,570 --> 03:22:00,660
I've had a lot of people reach out

4709
03:22:05,090 --> 03:22:02,580
especially privately and been like hey

4710
03:22:07,429 --> 03:22:05,100
I'm confused about this can you explain

4711
03:22:11,210 --> 03:22:07,439
why you did this and this and I will

4712
03:22:13,250 --> 03:22:11,220
take the time to walk you through it

4713
03:22:15,710 --> 03:22:13,260
um and and make sure that you understand

4714
03:22:17,690 --> 03:22:15,720
hey this is where I'm coming from and

4715
03:22:19,790 --> 03:22:17,700
it's it's I think it's anytime somebody

4716
03:22:22,610 --> 03:22:19,800
reaches out to me like that it's always

4717
03:22:26,030 --> 03:22:22,620
super positive and and they end up you

4718
03:22:28,309 --> 03:22:26,040
know seeing for and it doesn't take much

4719
03:22:29,750 --> 03:22:28,319
you don't have to dig 20 feet you

4720
03:22:31,130 --> 03:22:29,760
literally just have to put the shovel in

4721
03:22:33,230 --> 03:22:31,140
the ground and start seeing the [\h__\h]

4722
03:22:34,790 --> 03:22:33,240
that I'm saying is true

4723
03:22:39,830 --> 03:22:34,800
um it's

4724
03:22:42,769 --> 03:22:39,840
from that aspect but yeah as far as the

4725
03:22:45,230 --> 03:22:42,779
haters are concerned um yeah they're

4726
03:22:48,590 --> 03:22:45,240
never I trust me when I tell you you're

4727
03:22:49,750 --> 03:22:48,600
not gonna out troll me you're just not

4728
03:22:53,030 --> 03:22:49,760
um

4729
03:22:55,250 --> 03:22:53,040
yeah you know and so this meme is

4730
03:22:58,309 --> 03:22:55,260
literally My Kryptonite for all of them

4731
03:23:00,110 --> 03:22:58,319
anytime somebody starts some [\h__\h] and I

4732
03:23:02,030 --> 03:23:00,120
don't have I will be making that Meme

4733
03:23:04,610 --> 03:23:02,040
with their name on it and that will be

4734
03:23:06,710 --> 03:23:04,620
my standard Pro you know uh protocol

4735
03:23:08,870 --> 03:23:06,720
responding to these guys going forward

4736
03:23:10,610 --> 03:23:08,880
and and I think it's hilarious and I

4737
03:23:12,530 --> 03:23:10,620
think it's me too again you know what

4738
03:23:14,630 --> 03:23:12,540
they think another Chef they want you to

4739
03:23:16,370 --> 03:23:14,640
to argue with them for an hour and some

4740
03:23:18,590 --> 03:23:16,380
of them will I used to do it and I just

4741
03:23:21,710 --> 03:23:18,600
especially the nameless faceless

4742
03:23:24,050 --> 03:23:21,720
accounts that just join Twitter you know

4743
03:23:29,170 --> 03:23:24,060
like I'm not arguing with you you could

4744
03:23:32,050 --> 03:23:29,180
be Lou Alexander for all I know arguing

4745
03:23:35,450 --> 03:23:32,060
I'm not doing this I don't know

4746
03:23:38,870 --> 03:23:35,460
I don't know I don't know for sure but I

4747
03:23:43,610 --> 03:23:38,880
have a feeling that the et.com the

4748
03:23:49,190 --> 03:23:44,990
um there's a couple other guys in there

4749
03:23:53,630 --> 03:23:51,469
um there's a couple of of

4750
03:23:55,550 --> 03:23:53,640
accounts in there where I'm like I have

4751
03:23:58,429 --> 03:23:55,560
a very strong suspicion that these are

4752
03:24:00,229 --> 03:23:58,439
the same guys who are running

4753
03:24:02,990 --> 03:24:00,239
the other sock puppet accounts because

4754
03:24:04,670 --> 03:24:03,000
they attack you the same way they attack

4755
03:24:06,769 --> 03:24:04,680
you almost in the exact same way and

4756
03:24:09,410 --> 03:24:06,779
it's like uh it's like they've all got

4757
03:24:11,150 --> 03:24:09,420
their talking points and uh and the

4758
03:24:12,950 --> 03:24:11,160
thing that you know people always throw

4759
03:24:16,130 --> 03:24:12,960
on my face

4760
03:24:18,469 --> 03:24:16,140
well you know uh why don't you ask

4761
03:24:21,349 --> 03:24:18,479
Stephen Green Street about his racism

4762
03:24:24,229 --> 03:24:21,359
and his this amount I think I I did it

4763
03:24:27,349 --> 03:24:24,239
on my show it was the most awkward

4764
03:24:30,710 --> 03:24:27,359
[\h__\h] five minutes of the show's

4765
03:24:33,530 --> 03:24:30,720
history like I and I did that for you

4766
03:24:36,349 --> 03:24:33,540
guys and I got [\h__\h] for not and then I

4767
03:24:39,110 --> 03:24:36,359
didn't try it honestly I I I somebody

4768
03:24:41,750 --> 03:24:39,120
sent me the clip of that and I went holy

4769
03:24:45,229 --> 03:24:41,760
and I'm a show host so I put myself in

4770
03:24:47,330 --> 03:24:45,239
your position and went holy [\h__\h] that

4771
03:24:50,809 --> 03:24:47,340
was [\h__\h] oh that was it was you know

4772
03:24:55,570 --> 03:24:50,819
it was it was boring it hurt my women

4773
03:24:59,330 --> 03:24:55,580
like asking a guest do you beat women

4774
03:25:01,190 --> 03:24:59,340
it was it was it was yeah it was

4775
03:25:03,469 --> 03:25:01,200
definitely what do you think are you

4776
03:25:05,030 --> 03:25:03,479
worse what about this this next thing

4777
03:25:06,710 --> 03:25:05,040
that he's gonna drop do you think he's

4778
03:25:08,870 --> 03:25:06,720
good I can't wait I think he's gonna

4779
03:25:10,969 --> 03:25:08,880
destroy Skinwalker or is he gonna be

4780
03:25:13,849 --> 03:25:10,979
kind because he met them and they were

4781
03:25:16,250 --> 03:25:13,859
kind to him I I think so I think about

4782
03:25:17,330 --> 03:25:16,260
it I think he's gonna report what he

4783
03:25:19,729 --> 03:25:17,340
finds

4784
03:25:21,710 --> 03:25:19,739
that's a good way good yeah I think he's

4785
03:25:24,229 --> 03:25:21,720
gonna report what he finds no matter the

4786
03:25:26,929 --> 03:25:24,239
people are all wondering is he gonna is

4787
03:25:29,450 --> 03:25:26,939
he gonna like really do like really he

4788
03:25:32,389 --> 03:25:29,460
spent the night he spent the night in

4789
03:25:35,090 --> 03:25:32,399
right now too all by himself

4790
03:25:37,010 --> 03:25:35,100
um so you know let's see what he says I

4791
03:25:39,349 --> 03:25:37,020
I can't wait I know for sure one of

4792
03:25:41,630 --> 03:25:39,359
these basement office episodes is gonna

4793
03:25:45,170 --> 03:25:41,640
get into the cattlemutilation aspect of

4794
03:25:46,910 --> 03:25:45,180
this I cannot wait for that like I

4795
03:25:50,929 --> 03:25:46,920
cannot wait because I think Linda

4796
03:25:52,910 --> 03:25:50,939
Moulton Howe is the biggest fraud on the

4797
03:25:56,450 --> 03:25:52,920
planet and I can't believe that people

4798
03:25:59,690 --> 03:25:56,460
walk on eggshells around that woman uh

4799
03:26:01,849 --> 03:25:59,700
because we agree on too like no she's

4800
03:26:03,710 --> 03:26:01,859
the she's the absolute worst and I

4801
03:26:05,570 --> 03:26:03,720
bought like I gave her a fair chance

4802
03:26:08,389 --> 03:26:05,580
early in my channel I bought her

4803
03:26:10,389 --> 03:26:08,399
document her forty dollar documentary I

4804
03:26:13,550 --> 03:26:10,399
don't know if I have it around here but

4805
03:26:16,550 --> 03:26:13,560
Antarctica one no no no no her original

4806
03:26:20,030 --> 03:26:16,560
film strange Harvest which by the way

4807
03:26:21,830 --> 03:26:20,040
slap apps that movie is awesome like

4808
03:26:24,830 --> 03:26:21,840
it's good

4809
03:26:27,290 --> 03:26:24,840
oh my God it's so good the music the

4810
03:26:29,330 --> 03:26:27,300
editing that was the Pinnacle that was

4811
03:26:31,210 --> 03:26:29,340
the Pinnacle of her good work though and

4812
03:26:33,950 --> 03:26:31,220
after that

4813
03:26:37,010 --> 03:26:33,960
slide yeah that was her first birthday

4814
03:26:39,889 --> 03:26:37,020
but like what's what's hilarious is she

4815
03:26:41,929 --> 03:26:39,899
said like I paid for this movie [\h__\h] I

4816
03:26:45,170 --> 03:26:41,939
wish I had the jewel case because it

4817
03:26:47,330 --> 03:26:45,180
didn't even come in a DVD like you know

4818
03:26:50,210 --> 03:26:47,340
you get a DVD with a sleeve of the

4819
03:26:51,769 --> 03:26:50,220
picture it literally Came In Like A

4820
03:26:56,950 --> 03:26:51,779
CD-ROM

4821
03:27:02,990 --> 03:27:00,050
like she burned it herself and I was

4822
03:27:04,849 --> 03:27:03,000
like Jesus this is [\h__\h] so I paid 40

4823
03:27:07,610 --> 03:27:04,859
for this

4824
03:27:11,389 --> 03:27:07,620
um and and so then I I watched the movie

4825
03:27:13,610 --> 03:27:11,399
and I'm like [\h__\h] I love this movie even

4826
03:27:16,070 --> 03:27:13,620
though I think all of it is terrible

4827
03:27:18,110 --> 03:27:16,080
information especially today

4828
03:27:20,510 --> 03:27:18,120
um you could go back and just completely

4829
03:27:24,410 --> 03:27:20,520
destroy all the points she makes in that

4830
03:27:28,070 --> 03:27:24,420
film uh but the editing the music uh the

4831
03:27:29,570 --> 03:27:28,080
the scripts I mean for for and and this

4832
03:27:32,809 --> 03:27:29,580
is what I said in my review when I

4833
03:27:35,150 --> 03:27:32,819
reviewed it you gotta tip your hat to

4834
03:27:38,870 --> 03:27:35,160
Linda Moulton Howe to be a female

4835
03:27:41,030 --> 03:27:38,880
filmmaker in the mid 70s to say no [\h__\h]

4836
03:27:42,889 --> 03:27:41,040
you I'm not doing it that way I'm gonna

4837
03:27:44,630 --> 03:27:42,899
get my own camera I'm gonna get my own

4838
03:27:46,309 --> 03:27:44,640
editor I'm gonna get microphones I'm

4839
03:27:49,729 --> 03:27:46,319
gonna get lights I'm going to do this

4840
03:27:51,950 --> 03:27:49,739
Soup To Nuts all by myself and I want an

4841
03:27:55,450 --> 03:27:51,960
Emmy for it

4842
03:28:00,550 --> 03:27:55,460
um that's impressive like well

4843
03:28:05,150 --> 03:28:00,560
amazing amazing yeah anything past that

4844
03:28:08,090 --> 03:28:05,160
it's garbage it's absolute garbage and

4845
03:28:11,150 --> 03:28:08,100
her your question of the alien video

4846
03:28:12,950 --> 03:28:11,160
game cover followed by my question of

4847
03:28:15,229 --> 03:28:12,960
well have you ever just made a mistake

4848
03:28:18,170 --> 03:28:15,239
and had to correct because I'm

4849
03:28:20,090 --> 03:28:18,180
interested to know she had you know you

4850
03:28:24,530 --> 03:28:20,100
had to have made a mistake at some point

4851
03:28:27,469 --> 03:28:24,540
and the the the [\h__\h] look on her face

4852
03:28:31,010 --> 03:28:27,479
and the disrespectful

4853
03:28:35,090 --> 03:28:31,020
shift in her body language like yeah she

4854
03:28:38,210 --> 03:28:35,100
it was disgusting how she just sat there

4855
03:28:40,790 --> 03:28:38,220
it was hostile and unwarranted and

4856
03:28:43,190 --> 03:28:40,800
uncalled for it's the simplest question

4857
03:28:44,530 --> 03:28:43,200
in the world to answer all you gotta say

4858
03:28:47,809 --> 03:28:44,540
is

4859
03:28:50,210 --> 03:28:47,819
full of course yeah of course I made a

4860
03:28:52,729 --> 03:28:50,220
mistake of course I've made mistakes I I

4861
03:28:54,530 --> 03:28:52,739
wish I could go back and redo this or I

4862
03:28:56,450 --> 03:28:54,540
wish I didn't report on this but you

4863
03:28:58,309 --> 03:28:56,460
know or or I reported on this and then I

4864
03:29:00,170 --> 03:28:58,319
later found out with new information

4865
03:29:02,269 --> 03:29:00,180
that that was correct so I had to go

4866
03:29:04,790 --> 03:29:02,279
back to Craig those things happen but to

4867
03:29:08,570 --> 03:29:04,800
get the answer of you're attacking me

4868
03:29:10,610 --> 03:29:08,580
and first to be met with like like that

4869
03:29:13,550 --> 03:29:10,620
has got to be

4870
03:29:18,469 --> 03:29:13,560
I know the actual Silence of it was

4871
03:29:20,990 --> 03:29:18,479
maybe 15 20 seconds it felt like those

4872
03:29:22,490 --> 03:29:21,000
are the most those are the those are the

4873
03:29:24,229 --> 03:29:22,500
moments where you're like oh my God I'm

4874
03:29:26,750 --> 03:29:24,239
in a time this is a Time Warp because

4875
03:29:28,250 --> 03:29:26,760
this feels like an hour where she just

4876
03:29:30,769 --> 03:29:28,260
sat there and looked at the camera

4877
03:29:33,050 --> 03:29:30,779
didn't say a [\h__\h] thing but don't you

4878
03:29:34,910 --> 03:29:33,060
think don't you think that this is what

4879
03:29:36,710 --> 03:29:34,920
happens when you live in a bubble where

4880
03:29:38,690 --> 03:29:36,720
everybody walks on eggshells around you

4881
03:29:40,910 --> 03:29:38,700
nobody's honest with you or really

4882
03:29:43,309 --> 03:29:40,920
really tells you what they really think

4883
03:29:46,070 --> 03:29:43,319
that's what happened in my opinion she

4884
03:29:48,349 --> 03:29:46,080
got out of the bubble where somebody

4885
03:29:50,389 --> 03:29:48,359
asked her a couple of real questions and

4886
03:29:52,070 --> 03:29:50,399
she lost her goddamn mind because she's

4887
03:29:56,269 --> 03:29:52,080
been so sheltered and everything yeah

4888
03:29:59,929 --> 03:29:56,279
well I think and I know Leia Leah

4889
03:30:01,550 --> 03:29:59,939
um Leah Leah Prime right uh she's in

4890
03:30:03,050 --> 03:30:01,560
she's in the chat and you had it on the

4891
03:30:05,150 --> 03:30:03,060
show last week and man she's a really

4892
03:30:07,910 --> 03:30:05,160
smart smart lady

4893
03:30:09,590 --> 03:30:07,920
um she's a brainiac I love her anash

4894
03:30:11,690 --> 03:30:09,600
insanely smart

4895
03:30:13,910 --> 03:30:11,700
um and she might not like when I say

4896
03:30:16,550 --> 03:30:13,920
this but honestly I think the biggest

4897
03:30:18,889 --> 03:30:16,560
disservice to this conversation in this

4898
03:30:21,349 --> 03:30:18,899
community has been Coast to Coast AM

4899
03:30:24,950 --> 03:30:21,359
because Coast to Coast AM set the

4900
03:30:27,830 --> 03:30:24,960
precedent and they set the formula for

4901
03:30:31,550 --> 03:30:27,840
to never ask a tough question ever and

4902
03:30:33,170 --> 03:30:31,560
when you do you're instantly cast as an

4903
03:30:34,670 --> 03:30:33,180
attacker

4904
03:30:36,530 --> 03:30:34,680
um it's just like yeah you may be right

4905
03:30:38,330 --> 03:30:36,540
about that but I did enjoy Art Bell

4906
03:30:42,050 --> 03:30:38,340
growing up because that's all I loved

4907
03:30:45,290 --> 03:30:42,060
our Bell loved our belt but [\h__\h] how

4908
03:30:47,450 --> 03:30:45,300
much better this conversation would be

4909
03:30:49,490 --> 03:30:47,460
what better place it would be if every

4910
03:30:52,670 --> 03:30:49,500
once in a while Art Bell just checked

4911
03:30:55,790 --> 03:30:52,680
some people on [\h__\h] you know like

4912
03:30:58,010 --> 03:30:55,800
dedication nice it was rare it was

4913
03:31:00,110 --> 03:30:58,020
really really rare yeah really really

4914
03:31:01,969 --> 03:31:00,120
rare for most of the times he just

4915
03:31:04,250 --> 03:31:01,979
played ball

4916
03:31:06,290 --> 03:31:04,260
um and you know that was his format and

4917
03:31:08,870 --> 03:31:06,300
it was new and it was different and I

4918
03:31:12,110 --> 03:31:08,880
don't think he did it with intention but

4919
03:31:14,150 --> 03:31:12,120
in in retrospect I really do think that

4920
03:31:16,190 --> 03:31:14,160
that show

4921
03:31:18,050 --> 03:31:16,200
um set the standard for how to do

4922
03:31:20,090 --> 03:31:18,060
interviews in this on this discussion

4923
03:31:22,070 --> 03:31:20,100
and it also set a standard that you're

4924
03:31:24,469 --> 03:31:22,080
not allowed to push back

4925
03:31:27,050 --> 03:31:24,479
and the second that you do you're could

4926
03:31:28,130 --> 03:31:27,060
you know you're uh uh the bunker you're

4927
03:31:29,929 --> 03:31:28,140
a skeptic

4928
03:31:31,910 --> 03:31:29,939
um it's just like no I'm just asking you

4929
03:31:33,769 --> 03:31:31,920
a simple [\h__\h] question

4930
03:31:36,590 --> 03:31:33,779
um it's really it's really simple it

4931
03:31:40,610 --> 03:31:36,600
doesn't have I'm I'm I look I'm I'm an

4932
03:31:44,450 --> 03:31:40,620
experiencer like I don't like I don't am

4933
03:31:46,670 --> 03:31:44,460
I here to destroy you but you there's

4934
03:31:47,990 --> 03:31:46,680
some very contradictory things in your

4935
03:31:50,809 --> 03:31:48,000
career

4936
03:31:52,370 --> 03:31:50,819
and I'd like to address them you know

4937
03:31:54,110 --> 03:31:52,380
um yeah and they're and they're reached

4938
03:31:56,870 --> 03:31:54,120
a certain point where she just did

4939
03:31:58,910 --> 03:31:56,880
absolutely nothing to vet anybody I

4940
03:32:00,410 --> 03:31:58,920
asked you if it was the Antarctica uh

4941
03:32:03,290 --> 03:32:00,420
documentary because she has a

4942
03:32:05,210 --> 03:32:03,300
documentary on you know the spaceship

4943
03:32:06,530 --> 03:32:05,220
buried under the ice in Antarctica and

4944
03:32:09,170 --> 03:32:06,540
in it she interviews somebody who

4945
03:32:11,510 --> 03:32:09,180
claimed to be a Navy SEAL and she asked

4946
03:32:14,809 --> 03:32:11,520
him what his rank was and he gave a rank

4947
03:32:16,790 --> 03:32:14,819
that wasn't even a Navy rank like that

4948
03:32:18,650 --> 03:32:16,800
should be your first clue that he's not

4949
03:32:20,690 --> 03:32:18,660
honestly a Navy SEAL and he's not

4950
03:32:24,590 --> 03:32:20,700
telling you a real story you know your

4951
03:32:28,330 --> 03:32:24,600
first clue should be she's doing a she

4952
03:32:32,269 --> 03:32:28,340
did a documentary about aliens and

4953
03:32:36,290 --> 03:32:32,279
Antarctica without ever having stepped

4954
03:32:38,269 --> 03:32:36,300
foot in Antarctica yeah like and here's

4955
03:32:39,889 --> 03:32:38,279
the argument I make too she claims that

4956
03:32:42,469 --> 03:32:39,899
that the people told her exactly where

4957
03:32:44,210 --> 03:32:42,479
it was there's tour companies you can

4958
03:32:46,429 --> 03:32:44,220
hire a company that will take you

4959
03:32:48,769 --> 03:32:46,439
anywhere you want in Antarctica for a

4960
03:32:50,750 --> 03:32:48,779
few thousand dollars if you really knew

4961
03:32:53,269 --> 03:32:50,760
where an alien spaceship was buried in

4962
03:32:55,190 --> 03:32:53,279
the Ice Dude if I really knew and I was

4963
03:32:57,290 --> 03:32:55,200
really confident I'd go out there with a

4964
03:33:00,070 --> 03:32:57,300
goddamn shovel myself I would yeah

4965
03:33:02,570 --> 03:33:00,080
before I would go make a documentary

4966
03:33:03,950 --> 03:33:02,580
I mean look getting a shovel and

4967
03:33:05,870 --> 03:33:03,960
drilling to be you know through

4968
03:33:07,910 --> 03:33:05,880
Antarctic Ice I think that's incredibly

4969
03:33:10,670 --> 03:33:07,920
difficult but if you're gonna put out a

4970
03:33:13,309 --> 03:33:10,680
movie about Antarctica the very least

4971
03:33:15,410 --> 03:33:13,319
you can do is go there yeah the very

4972
03:33:18,050 --> 03:33:15,420
least you can do is go there and talk to

4973
03:33:20,210 --> 03:33:18,060
the people who actually work there or or

4974
03:33:22,550 --> 03:33:20,220
or work slash live there because I and

4975
03:33:24,530 --> 03:33:22,560
nobody lives there everybody just works

4976
03:33:26,150 --> 03:33:24,540
there and they stay there for months at

4977
03:33:26,870 --> 03:33:26,160
a time and then they get the hell out of

4978
03:33:28,969 --> 03:33:26,880
there

4979
03:33:33,110 --> 03:33:28,979
um but those are the people like if I if

4980
03:33:35,389 --> 03:33:33,120
I I just to have the the temerity to

4981
03:33:38,030 --> 03:33:35,399
call your film a documentary never have

4982
03:33:40,370 --> 03:33:38,040
stepped foot in the country or the um

4983
03:33:42,469 --> 03:33:40,380
the the continent that you're talking

4984
03:33:45,769 --> 03:33:42,479
about it's just oh

4985
03:33:48,530 --> 03:33:45,779
boggles my brain dude it's it's so it's

4986
03:33:50,389 --> 03:33:48,540
so dumb it's so stupid and and people

4987
03:33:56,330 --> 03:33:50,399
just

4988
03:34:01,130 --> 03:33:56,340
they treat her with these kid gloves

4989
03:34:03,830 --> 03:34:01,140
like she is incapable of not of of not

4990
03:34:07,370 --> 03:34:03,840
being a [\h__\h] fraud and she clearly is

4991
03:34:10,190 --> 03:34:07,380
a fraud she's such a fraud

4992
03:34:12,590 --> 03:34:10,200
um and and yeah but you know what one of

4993
03:34:15,110 --> 03:34:12,600
the one of the problems is that some of

4994
03:34:17,929 --> 03:34:15,120
the younger people coming in they don't

4995
03:34:19,790 --> 03:34:17,939
know the history and and I have had

4996
03:34:22,429 --> 03:34:19,800
conversations with with especially

4997
03:34:24,830 --> 03:34:22,439
females who are like oh you know she's a

4998
03:34:27,349 --> 03:34:24,840
hero she's she's so inspirational to me

4999
03:34:28,969 --> 03:34:27,359
they're like did you know about this did

5000
03:34:32,630 --> 03:34:28,979
you know about this did you know about

5001
03:34:34,790 --> 03:34:32,640
this no no I've had to send people to

5002
03:34:37,250 --> 03:34:34,800
like links and they didn't believe me

5003
03:34:39,950 --> 03:34:37,260
and like I'm I'm sorry but this is the

5004
03:34:41,630 --> 03:34:39,960
reality here you know yeah well I mean

5005
03:34:43,429 --> 03:34:41,640
if you want to I mean if if you're

5006
03:34:45,710 --> 03:34:43,439
looking for inspiration from female

5007
03:34:49,429 --> 03:34:45,720
filmmakers I'd probably start with Penny

5008
03:34:51,950 --> 03:34:49,439
Marshall before I ever did Linda Moulton

5009
03:34:55,309 --> 03:34:51,960
Howe you know like oh this is amazing

5010
03:34:57,290 --> 03:34:55,319
yeah like I I I I again like I I'll give

5011
03:34:59,269 --> 03:34:57,300
Linda her respects on the on the on the

5012
03:35:02,510 --> 03:34:59,279
on the path as she blazed because she

5013
03:35:03,290 --> 03:35:02,520
definitely did takes a lot of a lot of

5014
03:35:04,969 --> 03:35:03,300
um

5015
03:35:06,950 --> 03:35:04,979
a lot of guts to do something like that

5016
03:35:08,870 --> 03:35:06,960
at that time yeah but isn't that sad

5017
03:35:10,370 --> 03:35:08,880
that it's like your first thing was the

5018
03:35:12,170 --> 03:35:10,380
only good thing you ever did and after

5019
03:35:14,630 --> 03:35:12,180
that you just got worse and worse and

5020
03:35:16,790 --> 03:35:14,640
worse for decades that's sad that's

5021
03:35:18,710 --> 03:35:16,800
really sad but I mean I think the reason

5022
03:35:22,010 --> 03:35:18,720
why she's gotten to the place that she's

5023
03:35:24,590 --> 03:35:22,020
gotten to is Coast to Coast AM had a big

5024
03:35:28,490 --> 03:35:24,600
hand in making her who she is

5025
03:35:31,429 --> 03:35:28,500
yeah big time Big yeah and that's why

5026
03:35:33,229 --> 03:35:31,439
that's why I hold that resentment but

5027
03:35:36,530 --> 03:35:33,239
that's why I look at Coast to Coast AM

5028
03:35:38,330 --> 03:35:36,540
as just for me it's a destructive format

5029
03:35:41,210 --> 03:35:38,340
at this point there's nothing good

5030
03:35:43,250 --> 03:35:41,220
coming out of that show today uh oh no

5031
03:35:45,650 --> 03:35:43,260
now it's a [\h__\h] show it's absolutely

5032
03:35:48,830 --> 03:35:45,660
terrible it's it's like it's like a

5033
03:35:50,469 --> 03:35:48,840
right-wing Conservative Christian spooky

5034
03:35:53,929 --> 03:35:50,479
channel it's like

5035
03:35:56,150 --> 03:35:53,939
a description of it too and yeah that

5036
03:35:58,910 --> 03:35:56,160
guy will put me to sleep so fast if I if

5037
03:36:01,250 --> 03:35:58,920
I can't sleep you put on that oh George

5038
03:36:04,370 --> 03:36:01,260
noise bad and then and then you you know

5039
03:36:07,429 --> 03:36:04,380
you add uh you know naps weekly [\h__\h]

5040
03:36:09,349 --> 03:36:07,439
show on there too and it's it's just um

5041
03:36:11,090 --> 03:36:09,359
it's a cesspool of really bad

5042
03:36:14,630 --> 03:36:11,100
information

5043
03:36:17,389 --> 03:36:14,640
um and uh and and I I feel like they

5044
03:36:22,870 --> 03:36:17,399
really lure and sucker

5045
03:36:25,969 --> 03:36:22,880
uh the newer generation of um

5046
03:36:27,710 --> 03:36:25,979
podcasters and interested people

5047
03:36:30,050 --> 03:36:27,720
um you know especially like that UFO

5048
03:36:31,729 --> 03:36:30,060
podcast and those like they

5049
03:36:33,229 --> 03:36:31,739
you know they Grant interviews to all

5050
03:36:35,030 --> 03:36:33,239
those guys they bring them on their show

5051
03:36:36,710 --> 03:36:35,040
and of course they do because they never

5052
03:36:40,130 --> 03:36:36,720
question anything they don't push back

5053
03:36:42,410 --> 03:36:40,140
on [\h__\h] yeah yeah I saw that as a huge

5054
03:36:44,269 --> 03:36:42,420
problem when I started and decided I

5055
03:36:45,830 --> 03:36:44,279
would be different about that but you

5056
03:36:48,229 --> 03:36:45,840
know I realize you have to be kind

5057
03:36:50,510 --> 03:36:48,239
though to the people but I really want

5058
03:36:53,030 --> 03:36:50,520
somebody to to ask to push the questions

5059
03:36:54,650 --> 03:36:53,040
especially like there's cases where

5060
03:36:56,570 --> 03:36:54,660
people are interviewing people where

5061
03:36:58,429 --> 03:36:56,580
there's overwhelming absolutely

5062
03:37:00,710 --> 03:36:58,439
overwhelming evidence they hoax things

5063
03:37:03,590 --> 03:37:00,720
are fake things I mean third phase move

5064
03:37:05,450 --> 03:37:03,600
gets interviewed by people nobody nobody

5065
03:37:08,690 --> 03:37:05,460
brings any of this [\h__\h] up it's it's

5066
03:37:11,090 --> 03:37:08,700
like it is it's like a delusional Fairy

5067
03:37:13,670 --> 03:37:11,100
Land you know fairy tale land sometimes

5068
03:37:16,550 --> 03:37:13,680
and I just shake my head and I go okay

5069
03:37:20,210 --> 03:37:16,560
just let them fly for two hours you know

5070
03:37:22,190 --> 03:37:20,220
as a funny uh statement uh Luis my first

5071
03:37:24,650 --> 03:37:22,200
book report in third grade was on

5072
03:37:25,610 --> 03:37:24,660
Antarctica and I never went there

5073
03:37:27,889 --> 03:37:25,620
um

5074
03:37:29,990 --> 03:37:27,899
all right sorry I'll

5075
03:37:31,250 --> 03:37:30,000
try I'll let you slide on that one all

5076
03:37:34,729 --> 03:37:31,260
right all right third grade that's

5077
03:37:37,130 --> 03:37:34,739
that's understandable Antarctica

5078
03:37:37,790 --> 03:37:37,140
um but I hope you aced it

5079
03:37:39,950 --> 03:37:37,800
um

5080
03:37:44,389 --> 03:37:39,960
but yeah man it's just

5081
03:37:47,450 --> 03:37:44,399
it's a it's a sad sad uh

5082
03:37:49,250 --> 03:37:47,460
State of Affairs uh that that the

5083
03:37:51,650 --> 03:37:49,260
conversation has become for me and and

5084
03:37:54,050 --> 03:37:51,660
the thing here's like today I had a

5085
03:37:56,150 --> 03:37:54,060
really exciting meeting I was telling

5086
03:37:59,150 --> 03:37:56,160
you I was so excited after this meeting

5087
03:38:00,710 --> 03:37:59,160
and my girlfriend after I told her you

5088
03:38:02,990 --> 03:38:00,720
know like the meeting and how it went

5089
03:38:04,610 --> 03:38:03,000
what was going on she's like she's like

5090
03:38:06,710 --> 03:38:04,620
you miss it

5091
03:38:09,469 --> 03:38:06,720
she's like you miss she's like you need

5092
03:38:11,809 --> 03:38:09,479
you need a show like you you you you

5093
03:38:13,910 --> 03:38:11,819
really like she's like you need a

5094
03:38:16,370 --> 03:38:13,920
project all the time and she's right

5095
03:38:17,150 --> 03:38:16,380
like myself yeah like you know like I

5096
03:38:19,309 --> 03:38:17,160
always

5097
03:38:21,110 --> 03:38:19,319
little I'm gonna finish that stupid

5098
03:38:23,030 --> 03:38:21,120
cabin I've been building for five years

5099
03:38:24,050 --> 03:38:23,040
and guess what I'm gonna do as soon as

5100
03:38:25,670 --> 03:38:24,060
it's done

5101
03:38:27,670 --> 03:38:25,680
build another one

5102
03:38:33,710 --> 03:38:27,680
absolutely

5103
03:38:35,530 --> 03:38:33,720
I saw your cabin I was like

5104
03:38:38,330 --> 03:38:35,540
that's cool

5105
03:38:40,910 --> 03:38:38,340
I was like I was like I don't know if

5106
03:38:42,830 --> 03:38:40,920
he's an architect but I don't give a

5107
03:38:44,870 --> 03:38:42,840
[\h__\h] like the fact that you built that

5108
03:38:47,990 --> 03:38:44,880
and it's all built out of trees and

5109
03:38:49,870 --> 03:38:48,000
trash that's the best part yeah it's

5110
03:38:53,510 --> 03:38:49,880
it's

5111
03:38:55,910 --> 03:38:53,520
it was fun it was so funny man because

5112
03:38:57,950 --> 03:38:55,920
when you posted the picture that I was

5113
03:38:59,330 --> 03:38:57,960
like I I didn't tell my girlfriend where

5114
03:39:01,790 --> 03:38:59,340
I came from I showed her picture I'm

5115
03:39:04,190 --> 03:39:01,800
like babe if I built you this what would

5116
03:39:06,650 --> 03:39:04,200
you say and she's like she's a designer

5117
03:39:09,769 --> 03:39:06,660
she she does like fashion and stuff

5118
03:39:11,330 --> 03:39:09,779
um and and she's like I don't she's you

5119
03:39:13,250 --> 03:39:11,340
know she's looking at she's like I don't

5120
03:39:15,889 --> 03:39:13,260
know if that aesthetically pleases me

5121
03:39:17,690 --> 03:39:15,899
but she's like I would I would be

5122
03:39:19,790 --> 03:39:17,700
absolutely

5123
03:39:21,530 --> 03:39:19,800
I'd fall in love with you infinitely

5124
03:39:23,030 --> 03:39:21,540
more if you built me something like that

5125
03:39:25,190 --> 03:39:23,040
I was like

5126
03:39:27,830 --> 03:39:25,200
Steve Campion built for his wife and his

5127
03:39:29,450 --> 03:39:27,840
family I'm like that's [\h__\h] this is

5128
03:39:31,429 --> 03:39:29,460
the sweetest thing I've ever seen you

5129
03:39:34,090 --> 03:39:31,439
better buy uh buy a plot of land and

5130
03:39:37,610 --> 03:39:34,100
build your cabin then yeah dude

5131
03:39:39,650 --> 03:39:37,620
I I was like [\h__\h] man if if

5132
03:39:41,389 --> 03:39:39,660
Canyon can build a cabin I could build a

5133
03:39:44,570 --> 03:39:41,399
[\h__\h] cabin like that looks awesome

5134
03:39:46,610 --> 03:39:44,580
that looks awesome yeah it's just so I

5135
03:39:49,370 --> 03:39:46,620
was just so uh I was amazed I was like

5136
03:39:51,710 --> 03:39:49,380
damn dude dude and I honestly I never

5137
03:39:53,330 --> 03:39:51,720
built anything in my entire life until I

5138
03:39:55,010 --> 03:39:53,340
built that but I've always had a dream

5139
03:39:57,170 --> 03:39:55,020
in my heart to build a cabin somewhere

5140
03:39:59,630 --> 03:39:57,180
so I said you did I'm gonna do it and

5141
03:40:01,130 --> 03:39:59,640
then after it after you get the land you

5142
03:40:03,110 --> 03:40:01,140
don't have any money from you figure out

5143
03:40:05,090 --> 03:40:03,120
oh we don't have any money for materials

5144
03:40:06,710 --> 03:40:05,100
so then I start doing all this research

5145
03:40:08,990 --> 03:40:06,720
in the building we just have trees

5146
03:40:11,929 --> 03:40:09,000
everything out of trees and whatever it

5147
03:40:14,090 --> 03:40:11,939
was in the forest and yeah rocks I built

5148
03:40:17,630 --> 03:40:14,100
a shower out of stones that we just

5149
03:40:19,610 --> 03:40:17,640
collected and you know I would love I

5150
03:40:21,469 --> 03:40:19,620
would love to see a video or two or when

5151
03:40:24,130 --> 03:40:21,479
that thing's completely done oh I'm

5152
03:40:27,889 --> 03:40:24,140
gonna do it yeah

5153
03:40:29,750 --> 03:40:27,899
I want to see all of the little like all

5154
03:40:31,190 --> 03:40:29,760
of the little detail thing like the I'm

5155
03:40:33,650 --> 03:40:31,200
sure there's a ton of Easter eggs in

5156
03:40:35,269 --> 03:40:33,660
there too that are important to you and

5157
03:40:38,630 --> 03:40:35,279
the family I would just I think that'd

5158
03:40:40,370 --> 03:40:38,640
be a cool video yeah yeah well you're

5159
03:40:42,170 --> 03:40:40,380
always welcome you know if you ever get

5160
03:40:43,670 --> 03:40:42,180
to the East Coast I tell everybody it's

5161
03:40:44,990 --> 03:40:43,680
not that far from Philadelphia internet

5162
03:40:46,370 --> 03:40:45,000
well it's a couple hours from

5163
03:40:48,889 --> 03:40:46,380
Philadelphia International but that's

5164
03:40:51,530 --> 03:40:48,899
the closest airport and and we've

5165
03:40:53,990 --> 03:40:51,540
actually had a few a few viewers that

5166
03:40:57,110 --> 03:40:54,000
came for the weekend that had you know

5167
03:40:58,729 --> 03:40:57,120
helped it was one one long time viewer

5168
03:41:00,349 --> 03:40:58,739
my show was an electrician and I was

5169
03:41:02,330 --> 03:41:00,359
bitching about how long it was going to

5170
03:41:04,250 --> 03:41:02,340
take me to wire the new sunroof we

5171
03:41:06,590 --> 03:41:04,260
offered to come up so I was like come on

5172
03:41:08,750 --> 03:41:06,600
up we had steaks and you know we had a

5173
03:41:10,910 --> 03:41:08,760
good time I think the funniest comment

5174
03:41:12,769 --> 03:41:10,920
I've seen all night was from Raz here a

5175
03:41:15,469 --> 03:41:12,779
couple minutes ago says I'm doxing the

5176
03:41:16,690 --> 03:41:15,479
cabin yeah I don't know where I saw that

5177
03:41:19,010 --> 03:41:16,700
I didn't know

5178
03:41:21,530 --> 03:41:19,020
there's nobody I I don't think he's

5179
03:41:23,150 --> 03:41:21,540
being serious at least I hope not I hope

5180
03:41:24,950 --> 03:41:23,160
um yeah yeah but that that's pretty

5181
03:41:26,870 --> 03:41:24,960
funny I mean of course that's like the

5182
03:41:28,429 --> 03:41:26,880
first thing people want to do to you and

5183
03:41:31,010 --> 03:41:28,439
that's why that's part of the reason

5184
03:41:33,590 --> 03:41:31,020
just that makes me think of it the

5185
03:41:36,769 --> 03:41:33,600
reason why I never came up with an

5186
03:41:38,210 --> 03:41:36,779
alternative name or like uh

5187
03:41:40,389 --> 03:41:38,220
you know

5188
03:41:44,389 --> 03:41:43,130
you're right well the reason why I used

5189
03:41:47,870 --> 03:41:44,399
my real name

5190
03:41:51,290 --> 03:41:47,880
when I did my show was because I don't

5191
03:41:52,729 --> 03:41:51,300
want anybody to go oh well who are you

5192
03:41:54,530 --> 03:41:52,739
you know we don't even know your real

5193
03:41:57,050 --> 03:41:54,540
name or I didn't want I didn't want

5194
03:41:59,090 --> 03:41:57,060
anybody to use my real identity as a

5195
03:42:00,229 --> 03:41:59,100
threat to me so I was like [\h__\h] it I'll

5196
03:42:01,729 --> 03:42:00,239
just put my real name out there who

5197
03:42:04,250 --> 03:42:01,739
cares I'm an actor anyway I'm already

5198
03:42:05,990 --> 03:42:04,260
publicly known it's like if anybody just

5199
03:42:08,090 --> 03:42:06,000
did a little bit of research they'd be

5200
03:42:10,250 --> 03:42:08,100
able to find my Who I Really Am anyway

5201
03:42:13,250 --> 03:42:10,260
so might as well just put my real name

5202
03:42:16,190 --> 03:42:13,260
to everything so thankfully like I never

5203
03:42:18,170 --> 03:42:16,200
had anybody try to dox me or oh that's

5204
03:42:19,490 --> 03:42:18,180
happened to me five times now pull any

5205
03:42:21,229 --> 03:42:19,500
of that crap and your buddy Rob

5206
03:42:24,050 --> 03:42:21,239
Heatherly was one of the people that did

5207
03:42:26,570 --> 03:42:24,060
it but in his in his case he said I

5208
03:42:28,849 --> 03:42:26,580
didn't dox you I said yes you did and I

5209
03:42:31,250 --> 03:42:28,859
I sent him the screenshot and he said no

5210
03:42:34,370 --> 03:42:31,260
I only put out your street name and your

5211
03:42:37,490 --> 03:42:34,380
legal name not an [\h__\h] address like

5212
03:42:39,590 --> 03:42:37,500
what an [\h__\h] you had you Google those

5213
03:42:41,889 --> 03:42:39,600
two things you get the address it's the

5214
03:42:45,769 --> 03:42:41,899
first search result you idiot you know

5215
03:42:49,070 --> 03:42:45,779
uh well you um you had mentioned

5216
03:42:53,030 --> 03:42:49,080
something on your show a couple of

5217
03:42:55,990 --> 03:42:53,040
months ago about a screenshot of Rob

5218
03:42:59,450 --> 03:42:56,000
heatherly's computer yeah

5219
03:43:03,530 --> 03:42:59,460
on his computer or have we have a

5220
03:43:06,650 --> 03:43:03,540
capture of a Rob Heatherly one-time

5221
03:43:10,070 --> 03:43:06,660
public YouTube playlist that was all

5222
03:43:12,469 --> 03:43:10,080
what appeared to be I don't know six to

5223
03:43:14,330 --> 03:43:12,479
ten-year-old girls dancing for and he

5224
03:43:17,510 --> 03:43:14,340
had hours and hours and hours long

5225
03:43:18,950 --> 03:43:17,520
playlist of that and this is the guy

5226
03:43:22,010 --> 03:43:18,960
who's going to tell everybody what a bad

5227
03:43:24,229 --> 03:43:22,020
person I am yeah he's stupid as [\h__\h]

5228
03:43:26,809 --> 03:43:24,239
because that was a public playlist now

5229
03:43:28,370 --> 03:43:26,819
of course when he when he realized that

5230
03:43:30,710 --> 03:43:28,380
that was a public playlist he took it

5231
03:43:33,349 --> 03:43:30,720
down but we still have the capture of it

5232
03:43:35,450 --> 03:43:33,359
of the whole God you should please share

5233
03:43:37,910 --> 03:43:35,460
it because I'd love to share that

5234
03:43:40,670 --> 03:43:37,920
anytime he gives me [\h__\h]

5235
03:43:42,710 --> 03:43:40,680
that'd be a great a great flips from it

5236
03:43:45,290 --> 03:43:42,720
because I I think clear has that limit

5237
03:43:46,969 --> 03:43:45,300
yeah please send that to me I don't have

5238
03:43:48,530 --> 03:43:46,979
a limit because I pay for Twitter now so

5239
03:43:51,250 --> 03:43:48,540
I could put a 10 minute that's how I got

5240
03:43:53,690 --> 03:43:51,260
my Nazi video up there like all right

5241
03:43:55,670 --> 03:43:53,700
yeah yeah when you pay for the Twitter

5242
03:43:58,070 --> 03:43:55,680
service they let you just as long as the

5243
03:44:00,590 --> 03:43:58,080
file I think it can't exceed a certain

5244
03:44:02,929 --> 03:44:00,600
size but yeah you could put any length

5245
03:44:07,010 --> 03:44:02,939
video you want up there so

5246
03:44:09,170 --> 03:44:07,020
um yeah I I would love to have that

5247
03:44:11,510 --> 03:44:09,180
screen capture well I'll talk to you off

5248
03:44:13,550 --> 03:44:11,520
air about that because it's it's not

5249
03:44:15,590 --> 03:44:13,560
technically my I'm not the one who

5250
03:44:17,330 --> 03:44:15,600
technically did it but I've seen it I

5251
03:44:20,389 --> 03:44:17,340
don't have a physical copy on my

5252
03:44:21,670 --> 03:44:20,399
computer at the moment but I can get it

5253
03:44:23,809 --> 03:44:21,680
yeah

5254
03:44:25,670 --> 03:44:23,819
we were going to release the whole thing

5255
03:44:28,490 --> 03:44:25,680
we shouldn't do it yeah you should

5256
03:44:30,050 --> 03:44:28,500
because he's a real I love calling him a

5257
03:44:33,469 --> 03:44:30,060
boot licker because that's exactly what

5258
03:44:35,090 --> 03:44:33,479
he is uh but he is a he's a real piece

5259
03:44:36,590 --> 03:44:35,100
of work that guy yeah I wonder what he

5260
03:44:43,269 --> 03:44:36,600
thinks about Lou telling everybody has

5261
03:44:47,510 --> 03:44:46,070
anything that come anything that comes

5262
03:44:49,309 --> 03:44:47,520
out of Lou Alexander's mouth Rob

5263
03:44:52,550 --> 03:44:49,319
Heatherly will believe

5264
03:44:54,889 --> 03:44:52,560
yeah yeah I I used to look I used to

5265
03:44:56,870 --> 03:44:54,899
look at that guy and like the fact that

5266
03:44:58,729 --> 03:44:56,880
that him and people like him are

5267
03:45:00,349 --> 03:44:58,739
literally willing it's illegal to dock

5268
03:45:03,830 --> 03:45:00,359
somebody like the fact that they're just

5269
03:45:04,610 --> 03:45:03,840
willing to dock somebody publicly and do

5270
03:45:09,170 --> 03:45:04,620
it

5271
03:45:12,050 --> 03:45:09,180
their screenshots you can't dox people

5272
03:45:14,929 --> 03:45:12,060
what's so funny it's like he the other

5273
03:45:16,670 --> 03:45:14,939
day he was like cheering on somebody who

5274
03:45:18,650 --> 03:45:16,680
was threatening to sue me I'm like sue

5275
03:45:21,469 --> 03:45:18,660
me for what you [\h__\h] morons what are

5276
03:45:23,389 --> 03:45:21,479
you gonna sue me for for what first of

5277
03:45:26,090 --> 03:45:23,399
all I have nothing but what did what

5278
03:45:30,410 --> 03:45:26,100
actions have I done that are that you

5279
03:45:31,910 --> 03:45:30,420
think a judge is gonna waste any time on

5280
03:45:33,410 --> 03:45:31,920
good luck

5281
03:45:35,090 --> 03:45:33,420
um I don't I don't know if you know this

5282
03:45:36,710 --> 03:45:35,100
but I get threatened to be sued a lot

5283
03:45:38,510 --> 03:45:36,720
and occasionally somebody sends me

5284
03:45:42,050 --> 03:45:38,520
letters and I'm not going to pan around

5285
03:45:45,110 --> 03:45:42,060
but I have I hang them I

5286
03:45:47,269 --> 03:45:45,120
can come up it's like a badge of honor

5287
03:45:49,429 --> 03:45:47,279
you know and and most of the time though

5288
03:45:51,229 --> 03:45:49,439
they're they're just those I call them

5289
03:45:54,650 --> 03:45:51,239
angry lawyer letters they're just a

5290
03:45:57,349 --> 03:45:54,660
cease and desist you know secret assists

5291
03:45:59,750 --> 03:45:57,359
speaking slanderously about my client

5292
03:46:02,150 --> 03:45:59,760
and then I go back to the show and I go

5293
03:46:05,210 --> 03:46:02,160
uh supported by facts supported by

5294
03:46:08,630 --> 03:46:05,220
evidence I said it was my opinion do

5295
03:46:10,490 --> 03:46:08,640
what are you gonna do you know like

5296
03:46:13,070 --> 03:46:10,500
and usually it's somebody it's something

5297
03:46:15,050 --> 03:46:13,080
ridiculous like one time that Sarah R

5298
03:46:16,790 --> 03:46:15,060
Adams fake psychic she sent me one of

5299
03:46:19,610 --> 03:46:16,800
those and the lawyer who said it to me

5300
03:46:22,429 --> 03:46:19,620
is not registered to practice law in his

5301
03:46:24,170 --> 03:46:22,439
home state he just has a law degree and

5302
03:46:25,610 --> 03:46:24,180
he's a big time follower of hers and

5303
03:46:27,530 --> 03:46:25,620
they're out in the west coast I'm like

5304
03:46:30,710 --> 03:46:27,540
are you really coming to Pennsylvania to

5305
03:46:34,309 --> 03:46:30,720
sue me really it's just Scare Tactics

5306
03:46:37,010 --> 03:46:34,319
and nonsense you know yeah yeah no it is

5307
03:46:39,110 --> 03:46:37,020
it's all Bs man it's all empty threats

5308
03:46:41,090 --> 03:46:39,120
and empty philosophies and empty

5309
03:46:42,349 --> 03:46:41,100
promises and

5310
03:46:44,269 --> 03:46:42,359
um

5311
03:46:46,729 --> 03:46:44,279
yeah I I just

5312
03:46:49,130 --> 03:46:46,739
you know I've already I feel like in a

5313
03:46:50,870 --> 03:46:49,140
lot of ways I've run out of fuel for

5314
03:46:53,330 --> 03:46:50,880
this uh

5315
03:46:55,790 --> 03:46:53,340
for this discussion yeah unfortunately I

5316
03:46:57,769 --> 03:46:55,800
I I feel the same way but then I get a

5317
03:47:00,769 --> 03:46:57,779
refill somehow and I go all right I'll

5318
03:47:02,269 --> 03:47:00,779
do I'll do I every month I do fight with

5319
03:47:04,790 --> 03:47:02,279
myself people don't know this but every

5320
03:47:07,429 --> 03:47:04,800
month near the end of the month I go

5321
03:47:10,370 --> 03:47:07,439
maybe I should say I'm taking a year off

5322
03:47:13,130 --> 03:47:10,380
or you know whatever or maybe uh maybe

5323
03:47:14,990 --> 03:47:13,140
but even you know this like even taking

5324
03:47:17,870 --> 03:47:15,000
a few weeks off you lose all your

5325
03:47:21,110 --> 03:47:17,880
momentum and yeah no well I mean I I

5326
03:47:23,510 --> 03:47:21,120
think what was my last show uh I can't

5327
03:47:25,490 --> 03:47:23,520
remember the date but it's been over a

5328
03:47:27,170 --> 03:47:25,500
month I think

5329
03:47:29,269 --> 03:47:27,180
um

5330
03:47:31,550 --> 03:47:29,279
yeah I

5331
03:47:33,889 --> 03:47:31,560
I I'd be lying if I say I don't miss

5332
03:47:35,269 --> 03:47:33,899
doing it I really do I love doing the

5333
03:47:38,750 --> 03:47:35,279
shows

5334
03:47:40,510 --> 03:47:38,760
um but at the same time I've also

5335
03:47:42,889 --> 03:47:40,520
I've gotten a lot of other [\h__\h] done

5336
03:47:44,929 --> 03:47:42,899
yeah you know that's a good thing though

5337
03:47:46,610 --> 03:47:44,939
yeah all those things that you neglected

5338
03:47:48,590 --> 03:47:46,620
for all that time that's what I worry

5339
03:47:51,229 --> 03:47:48,600
about like what am I neglecting to get

5340
03:47:52,849 --> 03:47:51,239
these things done you know well that's

5341
03:47:54,650 --> 03:47:52,859
uh you know that's a ques if I could get

5342
03:47:56,809 --> 03:47:54,660
a senator I think I think one of my

5343
03:47:58,670 --> 03:47:56,819
goals uh is to get in front of a senator

5344
03:48:00,410 --> 03:47:58,680
or congressman and ask them that exact

5345
03:48:01,790 --> 03:48:00,420
question like what do you tell the

5346
03:48:03,830 --> 03:48:01,800
people who are putting off family

5347
03:48:06,830 --> 03:48:03,840
members who are alienating themselves

5348
03:48:09,110 --> 03:48:06,840
from friends who are you know

5349
03:48:11,990 --> 03:48:09,120
um sending UFO celebrities all their

5350
03:48:14,030 --> 03:48:12,000
money right yeah uh what do you tell

5351
03:48:15,229 --> 03:48:14,040
them what do you tell them are they

5352
03:48:17,210 --> 03:48:15,239
going to get the answers that they're

5353
03:48:19,190 --> 03:48:17,220
looking for because they want alien

5354
03:48:21,910 --> 03:48:19,200
bodies they want crash retrieval

5355
03:48:26,050 --> 03:48:21,920
programs they want they want the secrets

5356
03:48:30,650 --> 03:48:26,060
can you well can you quell

5357
03:48:34,429 --> 03:48:30,660
that fervent need for them or are you

5358
03:48:36,910 --> 03:48:34,439
going to double down and give them more

5359
03:48:40,490 --> 03:48:36,920
reason to fall deeper into that

5360
03:48:43,070 --> 03:48:40,500
self-destructive whole yeah you know so

5361
03:48:44,570 --> 03:48:43,080
that's I would love anybody to get in

5362
03:48:47,630 --> 03:48:44,580
front of a senator and ask him that

5363
03:48:49,070 --> 03:48:47,640
question because I think I I

5364
03:48:56,330 --> 03:48:49,080
think

5365
03:49:04,490 --> 03:48:59,809
you know uh somebody had had told me you

5366
03:49:07,610 --> 03:49:04,500
know asked me what was uh what was

5367
03:49:11,269 --> 03:49:07,620
the bomb of Hiroshima other than just

5368
03:49:17,809 --> 03:49:15,110
it was a message to the whole world that

5369
03:49:21,050 --> 03:49:17,819
the United States is in charge

5370
03:49:24,530 --> 03:49:21,060
and we dominated

5371
03:49:28,809 --> 03:49:24,540
foreign policy for the next five or six

5372
03:49:32,570 --> 03:49:28,819
decades and now here we are in 2022

5373
03:49:34,670 --> 03:49:32,580
and the rest of the world from a

5374
03:49:39,410 --> 03:49:34,680
technological standpoint has caught up

5375
03:49:40,429 --> 03:49:39,420
in a lot of ways a lot of ways so how do

5376
03:49:42,889 --> 03:49:40,439
you

5377
03:49:45,229 --> 03:49:42,899
send that message of

5378
03:49:46,849 --> 03:49:45,239
okay we're we're still the big dog on

5379
03:49:49,429 --> 03:49:46,859
the Block

5380
03:49:52,370 --> 03:49:49,439
um yeah maybe we have alien technology

5381
03:49:53,929 --> 03:49:52,380
yeah I I not even so much that I think

5382
03:49:57,410 --> 03:49:53,939
it's it's

5383
03:50:02,809 --> 03:49:57,420
um you tell the world it's aliens but

5384
03:50:07,790 --> 03:50:02,819
the the real story of it gets to the

5385
03:50:09,650 --> 03:50:07,800
Kremlin gets to uh uh Chinese uh you

5386
03:50:12,849 --> 03:50:09,660
know dictators essentially or

5387
03:50:17,750 --> 03:50:12,859
totalitarian regimes and the the the the

5388
03:50:19,790 --> 03:50:17,760
intelligence messages these are ours

5389
03:50:23,450 --> 03:50:19,800
this game's over

5390
03:50:26,269 --> 03:50:23,460
yeah game is over game is over

5391
03:50:29,330 --> 03:50:26,279
um I I I

5392
03:50:31,010 --> 03:50:29,340
part of me really thinks and again I

5393
03:50:32,750 --> 03:50:31,020
don't have proof of any of this this is

5394
03:50:34,309 --> 03:50:32,760
just sort of my theories based off of

5395
03:50:36,590 --> 03:50:34,319
all the [\h__\h] I've seen and heard and

5396
03:50:39,429 --> 03:50:36,600
people I've talked to I really do think

5397
03:50:42,590 --> 03:50:39,439
that uh that

5398
03:50:44,450 --> 03:50:42,600
this is just a smoke screen

5399
03:50:48,370 --> 03:50:44,460
to tell

5400
03:50:51,530 --> 03:50:48,380
the other world powers the game is up

5401
03:50:54,650 --> 03:50:51,540
we dominate space we dominate The Sea we

5402
03:50:58,070 --> 03:50:54,660
dominate all of it the solar system

5403
03:50:59,990 --> 03:50:58,080
um and if you try anything we will we

5404
03:51:02,630 --> 03:51:00,000
will wipe you off the face of the map

5405
03:51:03,650 --> 03:51:02,640
faster than you can blink

5406
03:51:07,389 --> 03:51:03,660
um

5407
03:51:09,769 --> 03:51:07,399
and I think the next 20 years this this

5408
03:51:11,990 --> 03:51:09,779
disclosure discussion that started in

5409
03:51:14,570 --> 03:51:12,000
2017

5410
03:51:16,309 --> 03:51:14,580
um I think in the next 20 years you're

5411
03:51:19,070 --> 03:51:16,319
we're gonna start having don't be

5412
03:51:21,590 --> 03:51:19,080
shocked if you start seeing some really

5413
03:51:25,190 --> 03:51:21,600
really big advancements in super

5414
03:51:26,630 --> 03:51:25,200
Computing and physics

5415
03:51:28,790 --> 03:51:26,640
um I think there's going to be some

5416
03:51:30,410 --> 03:51:28,800
major major public advancements in

5417
03:51:33,469 --> 03:51:30,420
physics

5418
03:51:35,630 --> 03:51:33,479
um add that in 20 years we're going to

5419
03:51:37,610 --> 03:51:35,640
look back at 2017 and we're going to

5420
03:51:39,830 --> 03:51:37,620
look back at the Tic Tac and we're going

5421
03:51:41,269 --> 03:51:39,840
to look back at all of this stuff and go

5422
03:51:43,849 --> 03:51:41,279
oh

5423
03:51:47,450 --> 03:51:43,859
that was us

5424
03:51:50,570 --> 03:51:47,460
and in 20 years nobody's going to give a

5425
03:51:53,590 --> 03:51:50,580
[\h__\h] about how people got manipulated or

5426
03:51:55,610 --> 03:51:53,600
people got burned or people went crazy

5427
03:51:59,030 --> 03:51:55,620
chasing this [\h__\h] and nobody's gonna

5428
03:52:01,190 --> 03:51:59,040
care and this idea that I love this idea

5429
03:52:03,229 --> 03:52:01,200
it's the dumbest [\h__\h] I've ever heard

5430
03:52:06,889 --> 03:52:03,239
that

5431
03:52:10,130 --> 03:52:06,899
um victims of government fraud

5432
03:52:12,229 --> 03:52:10,140
uh uh you know and people that have been

5433
03:52:14,389 --> 03:52:12,239
kidnapped and made to believe that

5434
03:52:16,729 --> 03:52:14,399
they've been kidnapped by aliens

5435
03:52:19,550 --> 03:52:16,739
um that they deserve some sort of

5436
03:52:22,550 --> 03:52:19,560
Justice or reparations I'm like bro get

5437
03:52:24,889 --> 03:52:22,560
in line you got a whole you got a whole

5438
03:52:27,229 --> 03:52:24,899
community of African Americans that were

5439
03:52:29,929 --> 03:52:27,239
up that were promised 40 acres in a mule

5440
03:52:30,889 --> 03:52:29,939
200 years ago and they still didn't get

5441
03:52:42,290 --> 03:52:30,899
it

5442
03:52:44,990 --> 03:52:42,300
and naive and

5443
03:52:46,550 --> 03:52:45,000
and um yeah it makes me think about the

5444
03:52:47,889 --> 03:52:46,560
real problems going on in our country

5445
03:52:50,530 --> 03:52:47,899
how how

5446
03:52:53,269 --> 03:52:50,540
privileged do you have to be to demand

5447
03:52:55,490 --> 03:52:53,279
uh reparations for the government for

5448
03:52:57,710 --> 03:52:55,500
getting [\h__\h] with like like dude give

5449
03:53:02,929 --> 03:52:57,720
me a break you're never gonna get that

5450
03:53:05,210 --> 03:53:02,939
never I'm never gonna get it yeah ever

5451
03:53:07,790 --> 03:53:05,220
well we're almost we're approaching four

5452
03:53:10,070 --> 03:53:07,800
hours so I'm gonna bounce Us coming out

5453
03:53:12,830 --> 03:53:10,080
of here I appreciate you doing this and

5454
03:53:14,929 --> 03:53:12,840
you don't be a stranger and I mean and

5455
03:53:18,130 --> 03:53:14,939
just anytime you want me to come on just

5456
03:53:21,650 --> 03:53:18,140
give me a holler and if I yeah

5457
03:53:24,410 --> 03:53:21,660
and yeah thanks to everybody in the

5458
03:53:27,290 --> 03:53:24,420
audience and um and I'm just happy that

5459
03:53:29,870 --> 03:53:27,300
uh it was very unexpected that this is

5460
03:53:31,490 --> 03:53:29,880
where this relationship has ended up I

5461
03:53:33,290 --> 03:53:31,500
never ever thought about that's what I

5462
03:53:36,250 --> 03:53:33,300
said in my I tweeted earlier yeah

5463
03:53:38,450 --> 03:53:36,260
stranger things have happened

5464
03:53:40,550 --> 03:53:38,460
never ever thought but you know hey man

5465
03:53:42,469 --> 03:53:40,560
like that's that's what happens when

5466
03:53:43,969 --> 03:53:42,479
people actually uh talk to one another

5467
03:53:45,050 --> 03:53:43,979
you know they find out that they've got

5468
03:53:46,969 --> 03:53:45,060
a lot more well that's what happened

5469
03:53:48,950 --> 03:53:46,979
that we've never talked so we had

5470
03:53:50,929 --> 03:53:48,960
preconceived ideas about each other and

5471
03:53:53,389 --> 03:53:50,939
all this stuff and then we talk and we

5472
03:53:56,570 --> 03:53:53,399
start finding this guy's a lot like me

5473
03:53:58,610 --> 03:53:56,580
in some weird ways you know that that's

5474
03:54:00,590 --> 03:53:58,620
a good thing and and I'm glad because

5475
03:54:12,190 --> 03:54:00,600
I'd much rather make a friend than an

5476
03:54:17,150 --> 03:54:15,290
you don't want that um but

5477
03:54:18,290 --> 03:54:17,160
um but yeah man I I appreciate the

5478
03:54:22,790 --> 03:54:18,300
opportunity

5479
03:54:24,950 --> 03:54:22,800
um tonight is that now uh Rich from

5480
03:54:27,130 --> 03:54:24,960
goofan has to listen to this four-hour

5481
03:54:29,510 --> 03:54:27,140
broadcast to see what to complain about

5482
03:54:32,809 --> 03:54:29,520
what that's it you know what he won't

5483
03:54:36,590 --> 03:54:32,819
even do it he wanted to do it it's worth

5484
03:54:38,630 --> 03:54:36,600
it totally worth it God I I hope I hope

5485
03:54:41,269 --> 03:54:38,640
his head explodes on the screen tomorrow

5486
03:54:43,790 --> 03:54:41,279
that would be just wonderful

5487
03:54:46,429 --> 03:54:43,800
um I would love to see that happen uh

5488
03:54:47,870 --> 03:54:46,439
but anyway I appreciate it all right

5489
03:54:49,490 --> 03:54:47,880
well listen I'm going to throw you out

5490
03:54:51,710 --> 03:54:49,500
of here and I will thank the audience

5491
03:54:53,809 --> 03:54:51,720
thank you very much don't be a stranger

5492
03:54:55,790 --> 03:54:53,819
all right man I'll see you soon all

5493
03:54:58,130 --> 03:54:55,800
right good night wow what an incredible

5494
03:55:00,889 --> 03:54:58,140
conversation friends and see we were

5495
03:55:03,110 --> 03:55:00,899
gonna do something off air but I go no

5496
03:55:05,269 --> 03:55:03,120
let's just talk about all this on air so

5497
03:55:07,910 --> 03:55:05,279
that we could take you uh so I could

5498
03:55:08,990 --> 03:55:07,920
take you all with me to do this

5499
03:55:11,870 --> 03:55:09,000
and

5500
03:55:14,630 --> 03:55:11,880
I do want to say that I was very unkind

5501
03:55:17,510 --> 03:55:14,640
to him he might have said unkind things

5502
03:55:19,550 --> 03:55:17,520
about me but it's it's good that we

5503
03:55:21,290 --> 03:55:19,560
talked and we uh we resolved our

5504
03:55:23,030 --> 03:55:21,300
differences and I encourage you to do

5505
03:55:26,389 --> 03:55:23,040
that with people that have differences

5506
03:55:29,870 --> 03:55:26,399
with instead and see you know uh it's

5507
03:55:32,090 --> 03:55:29,880
funny to me how so many things that that

5508
03:55:33,650 --> 03:55:32,100
him and I have in common and we never

5509
03:55:36,830 --> 03:55:33,660
would have known that if we hadn't

5510
03:55:38,570 --> 03:55:36,840
talked you know it's easy to just go uh

5511
03:55:40,610 --> 03:55:38,580
I don't like that guy I'm sure there's

5512
03:55:43,490 --> 03:55:40,620
some kind of competition ego thing

5513
03:55:45,530 --> 03:55:43,500
between show hosts and you know but I'm

5514
03:55:46,849 --> 03:55:45,540
glad that we got over it I wish him the

5515
03:55:48,710 --> 03:55:46,859
best it's

5516
03:55:51,050 --> 03:55:48,720
um I'm a little jealous that he gets to

5517
03:55:53,809 --> 03:55:51,060
bounce out and do other things obviously

5518
03:55:58,910 --> 03:55:53,819
uh sometimes I think about that myself a

5519
03:56:00,670 --> 03:55:58,920
lot but uh the the the the war rages on

5520
03:56:03,769 --> 03:56:00,680
right

5521
03:56:06,950 --> 03:56:03,779
uh I am going to be changing things some

5522
03:56:10,189 --> 03:56:06,960
things here to uh to continue I have to

5523
03:56:12,769 --> 03:56:10,199
or I can't continue we've seen him walk

5524
03:56:15,950 --> 03:56:12,779
away from a show uh Josh and Artemis

5525
03:56:18,050 --> 03:56:15,960
recently said some similar things that

5526
03:56:19,790 --> 03:56:18,060
that he's been saying like they don't

5527
03:56:22,550 --> 03:56:19,800
feel good about continuing doing their

5528
03:56:23,870 --> 03:56:22,560
show anymore so they're going to go do a

5529
03:56:25,849 --> 03:56:23,880
different show about different topics

5530
03:56:28,429 --> 03:56:25,859
and I wish them the best of success just

5531
03:56:29,689 --> 03:56:28,439
as I wish Lou the best of success as

5532
03:56:32,990 --> 03:56:29,699
well

5533
03:56:34,809 --> 03:56:33,000
um but these people walking away make me

5534
03:56:37,490 --> 03:56:34,819
of course think about it

5535
03:56:38,450 --> 03:56:37,500
I think that we're are good here but I

5536
03:56:43,969 --> 03:56:38,460
have to

5537
03:56:45,769 --> 03:56:43,979
continue to have a good time doing this

5538
03:56:47,870 --> 03:56:45,779
I don't want to come here I don't want

5539
03:56:50,990 --> 03:56:47,880
it to become a drudgery like oh I gotta

5540
03:56:53,630 --> 03:56:51,000
do a show uh no I want to do a show when

5541
03:56:55,189 --> 03:56:53,640
when I want to when I and that kind of

5542
03:56:57,590 --> 03:56:55,199
thing and

5543
03:56:59,150 --> 03:56:57,600
um you know and the other thing is I

5544
03:57:00,469 --> 03:56:59,160
keep saying this the show was supposed

5545
03:57:03,010 --> 03:57:00,479
to be about many many different

5546
03:57:06,590 --> 03:57:03,020
mysterious strange and esoteric topics

5547
03:57:08,450 --> 03:57:06,600
and we get uh pigeonholed into UFOs

5548
03:57:10,429 --> 03:57:08,460
partially because it got more views than

5549
03:57:12,229 --> 03:57:10,439
anything else and YouTube keeps telling

5550
03:57:15,530 --> 03:57:12,239
you here's the video that got the most

5551
03:57:19,130 --> 03:57:15,540
views do more of that and I did and here

5552
03:57:20,750 --> 03:57:19,140
we are but you'll notice you'll see in

5553
03:57:22,870 --> 03:57:20,760
the in the if you look through our

5554
03:57:25,790 --> 03:57:22,880
previous videos we used to do shows on

5555
03:57:28,070 --> 03:57:25,800
religious subjects and Mysteries we once

5556
03:57:30,830 --> 03:57:28,080
interviewed a Catholic Exorcist that's

5557
03:57:34,130 --> 03:57:30,840
one of my favorite shows and nobody

5558
03:57:36,889 --> 03:57:34,140
really it got very little views

5559
03:57:40,429 --> 03:57:36,899
um we did a bunch of shows about strange

5560
03:57:42,650 --> 03:57:40,439
mysteries free energy my favorite fake

5561
03:57:46,070 --> 03:57:42,660
psychics was a series we did that I

5562
03:57:48,349 --> 03:57:46,080
enjoyed uh and mediums and all of these

5563
03:57:51,710 --> 03:57:48,359
different topics and somehow we get

5564
03:57:53,990 --> 03:57:51,720
stuck in this Cesspool called UFOs

5565
03:57:56,389 --> 03:57:54,000
totally my fault

5566
03:57:58,370 --> 03:57:56,399
um we're going to get back to doing a

5567
03:58:00,550 --> 03:57:58,380
more varied topics

5568
03:58:03,110 --> 03:58:00,560
and I also have some very special

5569
03:58:05,269 --> 03:58:03,120
announcements for this week the first

5570
03:58:08,809 --> 03:58:05,279
announcement is that

5571
03:58:11,269 --> 03:58:08,819
uh let me do this let me uh copy and

5572
03:58:14,870 --> 03:58:11,279
paste people are asking people asked

5573
03:58:17,389 --> 03:58:14,880
several times tonight about the uh the

5574
03:58:19,610 --> 03:58:17,399
third phase of moon documentary that

5575
03:58:22,729 --> 03:58:19,620
they copyright claim to get it taken off

5576
03:58:25,370 --> 03:58:22,739
of YouTube myself and some friends of

5577
03:58:28,250 --> 03:58:25,380
the show here all stepped in other show

5578
03:58:31,550 --> 03:58:28,260
hosts like Anthony from unidentified S4

5579
03:58:36,229 --> 03:58:31,560
and others uh stepped up and helped this

5580
03:58:38,269 --> 03:58:36,239
filmmaker by uh helping distribute it on

5581
03:58:40,250 --> 03:58:38,279
alt video Platforms in other words

5582
03:58:43,130 --> 03:58:40,260
Odyssey Rumble bit shoot Etc somebody

5583
03:58:46,370 --> 03:58:43,140
even put it on the Chinese version of

5584
03:58:49,370 --> 03:58:46,380
YouTube with Chinese uh

5585
03:58:52,309 --> 03:58:49,380
with Chinese subtitles

5586
03:58:55,309 --> 03:58:52,319
and they got 10 000 views because

5587
03:58:56,689 --> 03:58:55,319
they're very big on that site amazing so

5588
03:59:00,050 --> 03:58:56,699
I'm just going to put in the live chat

5589
03:59:04,130 --> 03:59:00,060
link to First

5590
03:59:08,689 --> 03:59:06,950
documentary

5591
03:59:10,269 --> 03:59:08,699
and what I will tell you is regardless

5592
03:59:12,590 --> 03:59:10,279
of what you think of third phase of moon

5593
03:59:15,410 --> 03:59:12,600
uh if you don't believe that they should

5594
03:59:18,410 --> 03:59:15,420
be able to censor a documentary critical

5595
03:59:20,510 --> 03:59:18,420
about them off of YouTube then watch it

5596
03:59:21,229 --> 03:59:20,520
here on this link that we're going to

5597
03:59:24,469 --> 03:59:21,239
give

5598
03:59:26,630 --> 03:59:24,479
in the live chat uh and if I remember

5599
03:59:27,769 --> 03:59:26,640
here I will put it in the description of

5600
03:59:29,950 --> 03:59:27,779
the video

5601
03:59:32,450 --> 03:59:29,960
third phase of moon welcomes everybody

5602
03:59:35,210 --> 03:59:32,460
oh they're excused for putting out

5603
03:59:38,929 --> 03:59:35,220
garbage videos that aren't UFOs like you

5604
03:59:43,070 --> 03:59:38,939
know rocket launches or a flock of birds

5605
03:59:45,830 --> 03:59:43,080
or uh space debris coming down their

5606
03:59:47,330 --> 03:59:45,840
excuse is well we're just putting it out

5607
03:59:48,530 --> 03:59:47,340
there and people can tell us what they

5608
03:59:51,110 --> 03:59:48,540
think it is

5609
03:59:53,210 --> 03:59:51,120
a guy made an entire documentary film

5610
03:59:55,849 --> 03:59:53,220
telling everybody what they think of

5611
03:59:57,349 --> 03:59:55,859
their videos and what they are they

5612
04:00:00,349 --> 03:59:57,359
copyright claimed them off of YouTube

5613
04:00:02,750 --> 04:00:00,359
because they're intellectual cowards and

5614
04:00:05,030 --> 04:00:02,760
weaklings and they did not want their

5615
04:00:07,630 --> 04:00:05,040
deceptive practices which is against

5616
04:00:11,210 --> 04:00:07,640
YouTube terms of service to be shown

5617
04:00:13,370 --> 04:00:11,220
it's very damaging friends uh when you

5618
04:00:15,590 --> 04:00:13,380
take 30 plus hoaxes that they

5619
04:00:17,990 --> 04:00:15,600
perpetrated against the public and

5620
04:00:22,849 --> 04:00:18,000
against YouTube put it all in one place

5621
04:00:24,650 --> 04:00:22,859
now I'm sure Rich who is a paid employee

5622
04:00:26,570 --> 04:00:24,660
of theirs that's what he doesn't he

5623
04:00:27,950 --> 04:00:26,580
should have to preface Rich from goofan

5624
04:00:30,229 --> 04:00:27,960
should have to say

5625
04:00:32,990 --> 04:00:30,239
before I talk about third phase of moon

5626
04:00:35,990 --> 04:00:33,000
in full disclosure I'm one of their paid

5627
04:00:38,630 --> 04:00:36,000
employees he never does that

5628
04:00:41,630 --> 04:00:38,640
so Richmond goofan is defending their

5629
04:00:43,550 --> 04:00:41,640
fakery and fraudery and you know it's

5630
04:00:46,550 --> 04:00:43,560
sad and he keeps doubling and tripling

5631
04:00:48,769 --> 04:00:46,560
down but what he doesn't know is that

5632
04:00:52,429 --> 04:00:48,779
there's another so we've got the first

5633
04:00:54,590 --> 04:00:52,439
two-hour documentary up on Odyssey uh

5634
04:00:57,349 --> 04:00:54,600
courtesy of sapiens culture a Reddit

5635
04:00:59,030 --> 04:00:57,359
researcher who previously put all this

5636
04:01:01,130 --> 04:00:59,040
information in Reddit posts we

5637
04:01:03,950 --> 04:01:01,140
encouraged him yeah put it on a video

5638
04:01:05,210 --> 04:01:03,960
and he did and we helped to distribute

5639
04:01:07,010 --> 04:01:05,220
it

5640
04:01:08,750 --> 04:01:07,020
um but what Rich doesn't know while he's

5641
04:01:12,050 --> 04:01:08,760
doubling down is that there's a second

5642
04:01:14,870 --> 04:01:12,060
documentary Rich's talking points went

5643
04:01:16,849 --> 04:01:14,880
from they never hoaxed anything there's

5644
04:01:17,990 --> 04:01:16,859
no evidence that they ever hoaxed

5645
04:01:22,429 --> 04:01:18,000
anything

5646
04:01:25,429 --> 04:01:22,439
past five years

5647
04:01:27,410 --> 04:01:25,439
to now he's saying they haven't host

5648
04:01:30,830 --> 04:01:27,420
anything in the past three years

5649
04:01:33,130 --> 04:01:30,840
so what we did is we compiled all of

5650
04:01:35,450 --> 04:01:33,140
their fakery fraudery not all of it

5651
04:01:37,250 --> 04:01:35,460
examples of it it would take me five

5652
04:01:39,650 --> 04:01:37,260
years anyway

5653
04:01:41,510 --> 04:01:39,660
this next piece that's coming out is

5654
04:01:44,809 --> 04:01:41,520
more than two hours long

5655
04:01:48,050 --> 04:01:44,819
and it definitively proves with evidence

5656
04:01:50,650 --> 04:01:48,060
and scientific forensic analysis and all

5657
04:01:54,050 --> 04:01:50,660
kinds of things that third phase of moon

5658
04:01:56,510 --> 04:01:54,060
has created hoaxes in the past five

5659
04:01:59,090 --> 04:01:56,520
years has created hoaxes in the past

5660
04:02:01,550 --> 04:01:59,100
three years so Rich's whole talking

5661
04:02:05,030 --> 04:02:01,560
point is falling apart here

5662
04:02:07,370 --> 04:02:05,040
and what's really sad is that I warned

5663
04:02:08,809 --> 04:02:07,380
him I warned him about this and he

5664
04:02:10,849 --> 04:02:08,819
didn't listen to me

5665
04:02:12,469 --> 04:02:10,859
and he never had to become involved he

5666
04:02:14,330 --> 04:02:12,479
didn't have to become involved in a

5667
04:02:17,450 --> 04:02:14,340
dispute or disagreement between me and

5668
04:02:19,790 --> 04:02:17,460
third phase and moon he chose to he is a

5669
04:02:23,150 --> 04:02:19,800
paid employee of theirs and he can't

5670
04:02:25,729 --> 04:02:23,160
have somebody telling people the truth I

5671
04:02:28,969 --> 04:02:25,739
have no Financial motive for telling you

5672
04:02:31,070 --> 04:02:28,979
the truth about third phase in fact this

5673
04:02:33,349 --> 04:02:31,080
next two hour piece is

5674
04:02:35,510 --> 04:02:33,359
there's a bunch of contributors and

5675
04:02:37,370 --> 04:02:35,520
we'll talk more about it later in the

5676
04:02:41,150 --> 04:02:37,380
week when it's released but

5677
04:02:45,229 --> 04:02:41,160
I edited it and it's taken me 25 hours

5678
04:02:47,689 --> 04:02:45,239
already at least and uh I am not

5679
04:02:50,269 --> 04:02:47,699
profiting from this third phase of moon

5680
04:02:53,510 --> 04:02:50,279
next documentary which I guess you could

5681
04:02:55,969 --> 04:02:53,520
say is uh edited and I don't know

5682
04:02:57,349 --> 04:02:55,979
produced by me compiled edited and

5683
04:02:59,809 --> 04:02:57,359
produced by me

5684
04:03:02,570 --> 04:02:59,819
I'm volunteering my time to do that for

5685
04:03:05,809 --> 04:03:02,580
free I cannot put it on YouTube because

5686
04:03:08,389 --> 04:03:05,819
third phase of moon is now censoring

5687
04:03:11,090 --> 04:03:08,399
filmmakers that are critical of them by

5688
04:03:13,809 --> 04:03:11,100
false copyright claiming

5689
04:03:17,389 --> 04:03:13,819
to get the videos taken off of YouTube

5690
04:03:19,790 --> 04:03:17,399
so I will be uploading that video to

5691
04:03:21,650 --> 04:03:19,800
Odyssey which is much more supportive of

5692
04:03:25,370 --> 04:03:21,660
free speech they have a harder time

5693
04:03:28,490 --> 04:03:25,380
doing that sort of Nefarious nonsense on

5694
04:03:29,990 --> 04:03:28,500
Odyssey and other sites that I have

5695
04:03:33,769 --> 04:03:30,000
access to

5696
04:03:37,610 --> 04:03:33,779
and uh that film will be released as

5697
04:03:42,110 --> 04:03:37,620
Creative Commons royalty free

5698
04:03:44,389 --> 04:03:42,120
uh and fair use so while Rich is getting

5699
04:03:47,750 --> 04:03:44,399
paid by Third phase of moon to lie to

5700
04:03:48,950 --> 04:03:47,760
you I am volunteering my time to tell

5701
04:03:52,490 --> 04:03:48,960
you the truth

5702
04:03:55,250 --> 04:03:52,500
and you I would welcome all of you to

5703
04:03:57,769 --> 04:03:55,260
then consider those things again rich is

5704
04:03:59,689 --> 04:03:57,779
getting paid to lie to you by the way

5705
04:04:01,250 --> 04:03:59,699
this next two-hour piece clearly proves

5706
04:04:04,309 --> 04:04:01,260
that he has been lying to his audience

5707
04:04:07,729 --> 04:04:04,319
and everyone else and I have volunteered

5708
04:04:11,150 --> 04:04:07,739
my time to tell you the truth

5709
04:04:14,750 --> 04:04:11,160
so knowing that I welcome everybody to

5710
04:04:17,030 --> 04:04:14,760
watch this next two hour piece and make

5711
04:04:19,370 --> 04:04:17,040
up your own mind who's telling the truth

5712
04:04:23,030 --> 04:04:19,380
and who's a liar Rich continues to tell

5713
04:04:25,490 --> 04:04:23,040
people I'm lying we have no evidence

5714
04:04:27,710 --> 04:04:25,500
it's it's

5715
04:04:29,650 --> 04:04:27,720
I'm just amazed that he has doubled and

5716
04:04:33,290 --> 04:04:29,660
tripled down

5717
04:04:35,269 --> 04:04:33,300
remember first rich said they never host

5718
04:04:36,910 --> 04:04:35,279
anything there's no proof they hoaxed

5719
04:04:38,870 --> 04:04:36,920
anything and then what happened is

5720
04:04:40,790 --> 04:04:38,880
overwhelming evidence people started

5721
04:04:42,950 --> 04:04:40,800
sharing these clips of overwhelming

5722
04:04:45,070 --> 04:04:42,960
evidence yeah they told [\h__\h] when they

5723
04:04:49,670 --> 04:04:45,080
started they hoped all kinds of things

5724
04:04:51,650 --> 04:04:49,680
and knowing that rich rich probably was

5725
04:04:53,389 --> 04:04:51,660
like well I'm gonna have to change my

5726
04:04:55,670 --> 04:04:53,399
talking points here so then he started

5727
04:04:59,210 --> 04:04:55,680
saying no no they cleaned up five years

5728
04:05:01,490 --> 04:04:59,220
ago they stopped faking things

5729
04:05:04,070 --> 04:05:01,500
then overwhelming evidence that they

5730
04:05:06,290 --> 04:05:04,080
hadn't stopped faking things uh started

5731
04:05:08,389 --> 04:05:06,300
coming out now Rich has changed his

5732
04:05:10,849 --> 04:05:08,399
talking points to they haven't faked

5733
04:05:13,610 --> 04:05:10,859
anything in three years this new piece

5734
04:05:16,370 --> 04:05:13,620
this new documentary focuses on all of

5735
04:05:19,130 --> 04:05:16,380
the The Fakes and hoaxes for the past

5736
04:05:21,349 --> 04:05:19,140
five years including some from the past

5737
04:05:23,570 --> 04:05:21,359
three years and

5738
04:05:25,729 --> 04:05:23,580
you know I don't know what do we do next

5739
04:05:27,469 --> 04:05:25,739
uh rich is going to keep lying he's

5740
04:05:29,510 --> 04:05:27,479
going to keep moving the goal post here

5741
04:05:31,130 --> 04:05:29,520
uh we're going to get up to they haven't

5742
04:05:34,070 --> 04:05:31,140
faked anything in the past two years

5743
04:05:35,389 --> 04:05:34,080
then I prove yes they did right then

5744
04:05:37,550 --> 04:05:35,399
he's going to say they haven't picked

5745
04:05:39,590 --> 04:05:37,560
anything in the past one year will prove

5746
04:05:41,750 --> 04:05:39,600
that they did eventually we're going to

5747
04:05:44,269 --> 04:05:41,760
get up to third phase of moon hasn't

5748
04:05:47,090 --> 04:05:44,279
faked anything since last week here it's

5749
04:05:48,830 --> 04:05:47,100
getting ridiculous Rich that goal post

5750
04:05:49,729 --> 04:05:48,840
keeps moving

5751
04:05:51,769 --> 04:05:49,739
um

5752
04:05:54,410 --> 04:05:51,779
but I think it's important what I said

5753
04:05:57,469 --> 04:05:54,420
that I'm not getting paid to lie to you

5754
04:06:00,889 --> 04:05:57,479
uh I have no motive to lie to you what

5755
04:06:03,170 --> 04:06:00,899
we do is we investigate and we tell you

5756
04:06:06,469 --> 04:06:03,180
what the investigation

5757
04:06:08,929 --> 04:06:06,479
found that's what we do here

5758
04:06:12,229 --> 04:06:08,939
um rich is so lazy he doesn't even he he

5759
04:06:13,550 --> 04:06:12,239
didn't even watch the documentary and he

5760
04:06:17,510 --> 04:06:13,560
started saying things like they've got

5761
04:06:20,450 --> 04:06:17,520
to go back 10 or 12 years uh he he's too

5762
04:06:22,130 --> 04:06:20,460
lazy because uh and yeah I'll agree this

5763
04:06:26,689 --> 04:06:22,140
is a problem the first hour and 15

5764
04:06:29,090 --> 04:06:26,699
minutes is all uh older stuff to prove

5765
04:06:31,189 --> 04:06:29,100
they started their YouTube channel by

5766
04:06:35,510 --> 04:06:31,199
faking things by the way there is an

5767
04:06:37,130 --> 04:06:35,520
amazing amazing uh section of that first

5768
04:06:40,610 --> 04:06:37,140
documentary

5769
04:06:43,790 --> 04:06:40,620
by sapiens culture where he shows

5770
04:06:46,490 --> 04:06:43,800
definitively that when they started

5771
04:06:48,710 --> 04:06:46,500
their YouTube channel they would lie and

5772
04:06:50,929 --> 04:06:48,720
say people were sending them UFO videos

5773
04:06:54,050 --> 04:06:50,939
and all those videos were filmed in

5774
04:06:56,150 --> 04:06:54,060
Hawaii I think it was 10 or 12 of them

5775
04:06:57,710 --> 04:06:56,160
were all filmed within a few miles of

5776
04:07:00,170 --> 04:06:57,720
their house where they were living at

5777
04:07:01,969 --> 04:07:00,180
the time in Hawaii nobody was sending

5778
04:07:05,210 --> 04:07:01,979
them those videos and by the way yes

5779
04:07:08,870 --> 04:07:05,220
Rich uh a forensic analysis of those

5780
04:07:12,889 --> 04:07:08,880
videos can prove that those videos were

5781
04:07:14,929 --> 04:07:12,899
all recorded with the same camera

5782
04:07:18,110 --> 04:07:14,939
those videos were recorded with the same

5783
04:07:21,170 --> 04:07:18,120
camera all two miles from third phase of

5784
04:07:22,849 --> 04:07:21,180
Moon's house and you like a dummy are

5785
04:07:26,929 --> 04:07:22,859
telling people we're wrong about that

5786
04:07:29,929 --> 04:07:26,939
we've got a forensic analysis we've got

5787
04:07:32,150 --> 04:07:29,939
the map showing where each of the

5788
04:07:35,030 --> 04:07:32,160
sightings those 10 or 12 were right near

5789
04:07:38,090 --> 04:07:35,040
their house we've got overwhelming

5790
04:07:40,010 --> 04:07:38,100
evidence and you've got talking points

5791
04:07:42,710 --> 04:07:40,020
given to you by someone who is paying

5792
04:07:45,410 --> 04:07:42,720
you to lie for them apparently

5793
04:07:49,370 --> 04:07:45,420
I I don't I don't understand that I mean

5794
04:07:51,590 --> 04:07:49,380
you know it's it's it is what it is

5795
04:07:54,110 --> 04:07:51,600
though so what we're going to do now

5796
04:07:56,330 --> 04:07:54,120
is we're going to put out this next two

5797
04:07:58,189 --> 04:07:56,340
hour video and actually I think it might

5798
04:08:00,050 --> 04:07:58,199
come in at two hours and 30 minutes I'm

5799
04:08:01,969 --> 04:08:00,060
editing it right now in fact I'm going

5800
04:08:03,590 --> 04:08:01,979
to be up until five or six o'clock in

5801
04:08:05,150 --> 04:08:03,600
the morning tonight because I'm

5802
04:08:08,170 --> 04:08:05,160
determined to get it done as quickly as

5803
04:08:11,929 --> 04:08:08,180
possible and put it back out to prevent

5804
04:08:13,969 --> 04:08:11,939
the supporters of third fate of moon to

5805
04:08:16,189 --> 04:08:13,979
continue lying and saying that we have

5806
04:08:18,769 --> 04:08:16,199
to go back 10 or 12 years it's not true

5807
04:08:21,170 --> 04:08:18,779
the first documentary if you really want

5808
04:08:22,969 --> 04:08:21,180
to know the most recent go to one hour

5809
04:08:25,309 --> 04:08:22,979
15 minutes in it's a two-hour

5810
04:08:29,030 --> 04:08:25,319
documentary so skip the first hour and

5811
04:08:31,849 --> 04:08:29,040
15 minutes and that documentary directly

5812
04:08:33,769 --> 04:08:31,859
addresses Rich saying they haven't faked

5813
04:08:35,809 --> 04:08:33,779
anything in five years and then it shows

5814
04:08:38,809 --> 04:08:35,819
all these things they faked in the past

5815
04:08:40,790 --> 04:08:38,819
five years he missed that because he's

5816
04:08:43,370 --> 04:08:40,800
going to go on a public live stream and

5817
04:08:46,250 --> 04:08:43,380
tell everybody how wrong I am before

5818
04:08:49,490 --> 04:08:46,260
he's even watched the documentary great

5819
04:08:51,950 --> 04:08:49,500
great job great job he's doing somebody

5820
04:08:54,889 --> 04:08:51,960
remind me to never give him a job and

5821
04:08:57,170 --> 04:08:54,899
for sure never let him defend me if I

5822
04:08:58,510 --> 04:08:57,180
get in trouble caught faking [\h__\h] or

5823
04:09:01,969 --> 04:08:58,520
lying because

5824
04:09:04,010 --> 04:09:01,979
holy [\h__\h] is he terrible at this I said

5825
04:09:07,309 --> 04:09:04,020
it before I'm going to say it again he's

5826
04:09:09,110 --> 04:09:07,319
just he can't do this with me he or he

5827
04:09:12,590 --> 04:09:09,120
shouldn't I would have I would strongly

5828
04:09:14,450 --> 04:09:12,600
advise him to uh shut up that's because

5829
04:09:16,790 --> 04:09:14,460
every time he opens his mouth we just

5830
04:09:19,010 --> 04:09:16,800
get another clip to prove he keeps lying

5831
04:09:21,710 --> 04:09:19,020
it's so ridiculous

5832
04:09:23,450 --> 04:09:21,720
but uh like Lou said earlier he's always

5833
04:09:25,729 --> 04:09:23,460
going to have some core following of

5834
04:09:27,410 --> 04:09:25,739
people that don't mind him lying through

5835
04:09:29,330 --> 04:09:27,420
his teeth

5836
04:09:31,550 --> 04:09:29,340
you know I have to learn to accept the

5837
04:09:33,590 --> 04:09:31,560
things I can't change and that is one of

5838
04:09:35,150 --> 04:09:33,600
them so

5839
04:09:37,610 --> 04:09:35,160
I'm going to bounce on out of here and

5840
04:09:39,530 --> 04:09:37,620
go get editing friends and I guarantee

5841
04:09:41,570 --> 04:09:39,540
you if you like especially if you like

5842
04:09:43,969 --> 04:09:41,580
the first documentary I thought that was

5843
04:09:46,370 --> 04:09:43,979
very very well put together this next

5844
04:09:49,790 --> 04:09:46,380
one also includes

5845
04:09:52,070 --> 04:09:49,800
I'm very blessed because Heathcliff uh

5846
04:09:54,469 --> 04:09:52,080
Heathcliff from astral citizens gave me

5847
04:09:57,050 --> 04:09:54,479
permission to use some of his debunks in

5848
04:10:00,229 --> 04:09:57,060
this next two hour piece and his video

5849
04:10:02,030 --> 04:10:00,239
production is amazing so this next one

5850
04:10:05,210 --> 04:10:02,040
is going to look better it's going to

5851
04:10:07,250 --> 04:10:05,220
sound better it's got better uh more

5852
04:10:10,010 --> 04:10:07,260
detailed analysis of each of the fakes

5853
04:10:12,950 --> 04:10:10,020
and hoaxes and how they did them I mean

5854
04:10:14,809 --> 04:10:12,960
in one case oh I I'm not going to say

5855
04:10:16,670 --> 04:10:14,819
anything else I can't wait for you

5856
04:10:19,729 --> 04:10:16,680
people to see it and it will be

5857
04:10:21,590 --> 04:10:19,739
interesting that also uh someone very

5858
04:10:24,710 --> 04:10:21,600
friendly with Rich

5859
04:10:26,990 --> 04:10:24,720
is also in this documentary essentially

5860
04:10:29,929 --> 04:10:27,000
saying that rich is wrong third phase

5861
04:10:32,990 --> 04:10:29,939
and him are lying and uh

5862
04:10:35,210 --> 04:10:33,000
third phase of moon has not changed they

5863
04:10:37,550 --> 04:10:35,220
keep faking things and the talking

5864
04:10:40,189 --> 04:10:37,560
points that they are putting out there

5865
04:10:42,349 --> 04:10:40,199
that they they they realized and they

5866
04:10:44,389 --> 04:10:42,359
you know how important this subject was

5867
04:10:47,510 --> 04:10:44,399
and they stopped faking things five

5868
04:10:49,790 --> 04:10:47,520
years ago is not true and someone very

5869
04:10:52,610 --> 04:10:49,800
close to Rich uh

5870
04:10:54,229 --> 04:10:52,620
is in this next two hour piece saying

5871
04:10:56,630 --> 04:10:54,239
that he's wrong

5872
04:10:58,429 --> 04:10:56,640
uh I can't wait

5873
04:11:00,410 --> 04:10:58,439
and uh

5874
04:11:02,809 --> 04:11:00,420
we're gonna get that put out as quickly

5875
04:11:05,030 --> 04:11:02,819
as possible zorg is mentioning murder

5876
04:11:06,830 --> 04:11:05,040
and UFO land I keep saying this week but

5877
04:11:09,550 --> 04:11:06,840
then I get sidetracked by things like

5878
04:11:12,229 --> 04:11:09,560
editing together a two-hour documentary

5879
04:11:14,809 --> 04:11:12,239
proving what Liars third phase of moon

5880
04:11:17,570 --> 04:11:14,819
is improving what Liars rich is

5881
04:11:20,510 --> 04:11:17,580
I think it's important but I will say

5882
04:11:23,090 --> 04:11:20,520
that I really got to learn to uh just

5883
04:11:25,790 --> 04:11:23,100
drop the bomb over the Target and move

5884
04:11:29,330 --> 04:11:25,800
on to the next Target this hovering

5885
04:11:31,969 --> 04:11:29,340
around the Target and you know looking

5886
04:11:34,309 --> 04:11:31,979
for another place to drop a bomb is not

5887
04:11:36,830 --> 04:11:34,319
good uh I'm gonna drop this and we'll

5888
04:11:39,769 --> 04:11:36,840
see what happens if he keeps lying we'll

5889
04:11:44,570 --> 04:11:39,779
find more recent examples

5890
04:11:46,670 --> 04:11:44,580
you know but at some point you I I will

5891
04:11:49,189 --> 04:11:46,680
invite anybody to watch when these two

5892
04:11:50,750 --> 04:11:49,199
are done watch them both back to back

5893
04:11:54,410 --> 04:11:50,760
and then

5894
04:11:58,189 --> 04:11:54,420
you tell me if I'm the liar or Rich from

5895
04:12:02,750 --> 04:11:59,450
do

5896
04:12:04,250 --> 04:12:02,760
and people can make up their own mind

5897
04:12:07,189 --> 04:12:04,260
uh

5898
04:12:09,349 --> 04:12:07,199
we are going to bounce on out of here

5899
04:12:10,429 --> 04:12:09,359
friends I have no idea this [\h__\h] will go

5900
04:12:13,490 --> 04:12:10,439
this long

5901
04:12:16,250 --> 04:12:13,500
um and uh I'm glad though that we did

5902
04:12:18,410 --> 04:12:16,260
this so when I saw Lou pop up I was

5903
04:12:20,750 --> 04:12:18,420
happy well first of me I was like oh

5904
04:12:22,130 --> 04:12:20,760
because we changed the thumbnail and all

5905
04:12:24,349 --> 04:12:22,140
these things happen but you guys know

5906
04:12:26,929 --> 04:12:24,359
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5907
04:12:30,050 --> 04:12:26,939
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5908
04:12:32,809 --> 04:12:30,060
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5909
04:12:34,790 --> 04:12:32,819
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5910
04:12:37,550 --> 04:12:34,800
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5911
04:12:40,370 --> 04:12:37,560
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5912
04:12:43,250 --> 04:12:40,380
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5913
04:12:45,950 --> 04:12:43,260
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5914
04:12:48,229 --> 04:12:45,960
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5915
04:12:51,530 --> 04:12:48,239
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5916
04:12:53,389 --> 04:12:51,540
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5917
04:12:55,550 --> 04:12:53,399
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5918
04:12:58,010 --> 04:12:55,560
like Lou I was super believer eight

5919
04:12:59,990 --> 04:12:58,020
years ago when I start started it just

5920
04:13:02,210 --> 04:13:00,000
took me longer to get to the bitter

5921
04:13:03,790 --> 04:13:02,220
skeptic part of my uh

5922
04:13:06,889 --> 04:13:03,800
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5923
04:13:09,229 --> 04:13:06,899
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5924
04:13:11,210 --> 04:13:09,239
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5925
04:13:13,250 --> 04:13:11,220
tell you the truth not a lot of shows

5926
04:13:15,410 --> 04:13:13,260
are doing that like we heard in the

5927
04:13:18,889 --> 04:13:15,420
discussion tonight you got to play ball

5928
04:13:21,290 --> 04:13:18,899
to make the money and I don't do it well

5929
04:13:24,469 --> 04:13:21,300
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5931
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5932
04:13:31,070 --> 04:13:29,399
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5933
04:13:32,290 --> 04:13:31,080
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5934
04:13:35,269 --> 04:13:32,300
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5935
04:13:36,889 --> 04:13:35,279
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04:13:39,110 --> 04:13:36,899
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5954
04:14:19,130 --> 04:14:16,859
you until next time my name is Stephen

5955
04:14:22,710 --> 04:14:19,140
Campion good night and God bless all of

5956
04:14:22,720 --> 04:14:56,229
[Music]

5957
04:14:56,239 --> 04:14:59,400
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04:15:43,040 --> 04:15:41,680
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04:15:59,450 --> 04:15:43,050
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